Intel Core Hardware Anti-piracy

[Karalysia]

Enjoy that free market monopoly.

 

[warpus]

Having built computers with processors from both, I will simply say I do prefer Intel and have for awhile....and since I dont pirate anything, I dont see the big deal.

The big deal (or at least a part of it) is that not every single stream you capture is going to be copyrighted material...

reading the article it appears as though this would prevent you from recording ALL streams.. even legitimate ones

which is not good (tm)

 

[Zelig]

I thought DEP was an operating system feature, not a chip.

Maybe you should click on the link I provided?

The big deal (or at least a part of it) is that not every single stream you capture is going to be copyrighted material...

reading the article it appears as though this would prevent you from recording ALL streams.. even legitimate ones

which is not good (tm)

No, it simply allows you to play copy protected streams. Same as how you can't play Blu-Ray movies unless your monitor supports HDCP.

 

[warpus]

No, it simply allows you to play copy protected streams. Same as how you can't play Blu-Ray movies unless your monitor supports HDCP.

I think somebody who understands all of this needs to give us a primer and/or link to an article explaining what exactly all of this means.

I'm wondering though.. If a competing chip manufacturer *doesn't* go with this technology, why would anyone buy Intel?

 

[Zelig]

I think somebody who understands all of this needs to give us a primer and/or link to an article explaining what exactly all of this means.

I'm wondering though.. If a competing chip manufacturer *doesn't* go with this technology, why would anyone buy Intel?

Because without an Intel chip, you won't be able to play 1080p Netfrix movies.

Same as HDCP; if Dill monitors have HDCP protection, and Samsong monitors don't, and you want to play Blu-Ray movies, you have to buy a Dill monitor instead of a Samsong monitor.

 

[Luckymoose]

Or you do what the internet does and download the new video format that someone invents to go around all this garbage.

 

[illram]

Same as HDCP; if Dill monitors have HDCP protection, and Samsong monitors don't, and you want to play Blu-Ray movies, you have to buy a Dill monitor instead of a Samsong monitor.

Exactly. That's all this is about. It's BS monopolizing of the hardware market.

If Intel really were to strike a deal whereby all or a significant majority of media outlets agreed that their streaming 1080p content required the use of an Intel chip, I'd start wondering about anti-trust violations. That's serious anti-competitive behavior.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Maybe you should click on the link I provided?

I clicked that Data Execution Prevention (DEP) is a security feature included in modern Microsoft Windows operating systems that is intended to prevent an application or service from executing code from a non-executable memory region.

 

[MobBoss]

They are putting themselves in the position of:
A. Telling me how to use my system.
B. Determining what is pirated and what isn't.

Like most DRM it will probably break things its not meant to. It will most likely frustrate and cause problems for legitimate and legal users. Scofflaws and hackers will find a way to get around it. It will add cost and burden.

Lastly, its not their place to police this.

I highly doubt they are doing it because they think it will lose them profit.

If it does as you say, then it wont work. Apparently, they think otherwise...

Because without an Intel chip, you won't be able to play 1080p Netfrix movies.

Ding. Profit.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Also, for what its worth, some internet connections choke up on streaming videos. Like mine does. So I have to download and watch in a media player. Or I can't watch that at all.

 

[Holycannoli]

I like AMD, but not because of some anti-piracy whine. I just happen to prefer them. Hopefully, AMD will also introduce this so as to help open up legitimate digital online viewing to the masses.

And with the new internet traffic rules we can all pay more for that now secure digital online viewing.

I'm not happy about any of this.

 

[GarretSidzaka]

thank you all for responding and discussing this. looks like i touched on a raw nerve

 

[Luckymoose]

Also HDCP has been cracked for a while now.

 

[Shadylookin]

Sounds anti-competitive to me. Though I'm slightly curious how they disable copying.

Not that it really matters the only people that have always been able to get 1080p without hassle are the pirates and this won't do anything to change it

 

[innonimatu]

I think somebody who understands all of this needs to give us a primer and/or link to an article explaining what exactly all of this means.

I'm wondering though.. If a competing chip manufacturer *doesn't* go with this technology, why would anyone buy Intel?

Search for "Treacherous computing". Wikipedia is a good starting point.

No common "consumer" or benefits from this crap, it's being pursed by the media industry. Some of those features, which ease centralized control, have has some limited use for corporations.

Maybe you should click on the link I provided?

She's technically correct, you know? You mentioned by mane Microsoft's version of an operating system feature which may or may not make use of the NX bit feature in processors.

 

[GarretSidzaka]

you know i have thought about this all day, and i now dont think this has anything to do with piracy. i know this because it is so obvious that pirates wont be affected one bit by this.


So i ask you now, whats the real reason for this hardware?

 

[Thoughtful Thug]

you know i have thought about this all day, and i now dont think this has anything to do with piracy. i know this because it is so obvious that pirates wont be affected one bit by this.


So i ask you now, whats the real reason for this hardware?

Maybe it is an announcement to the investors who have stake in other stocks? Assuming investors are dumb.

 

[civ_king]

Why would knowledgeable consumers willingly purchase this product?

because I can run it @ 5 GHz?

Why are they doing this instead of making a chip that can stop viruses? Oh wait. 'Cos of big business. Of course.

I thought DEP was an operating system feature, not a chip.

once again aimee reveals a truth that makes us look like idiots

 

[Perfection]

How to stop Piracy....

Make nonpirate services worse!

 

[warpus]

Though I'm slightly curious how they disable copying.

Hardware side it's probably pretty easy since you have access to the whole motherboard and everything on it, including the controllers that control the hard drives and all other i/o devices.