Intending

[Farm Boy]

Hot'n clever.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Yeah, I thought just this one time I could pace you.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm not sure, but I think "deep, hot, and clever" might be the name of a sandwich...

 

[Gori the Grey]

Or a porno for intellectuals.

 

[Farm Boy]

I'd probably bite at that.

 

[Gori the Grey]

The sandwich or the porno?

 

[Farm Boy]

Can we have both?

 

[Gori the Grey]

It's an exclusive or.

 

[Lexicus]

I think we basically agree then. An accident is an accident, something on purpose is something on purpose. Whether something was an accident, or on purpose, matters since someone shouldn't be held responsible for accidents, even if they were a result of their decision. That is all I mean when I say intentions do sometimes matter.

I specifically said "unpredictable event," not "accident." Accidents are generally predictable.

 

[Farm Boy]

Now that's a pickle.

 

[ulyssesSgrant]

I specifically said "unpredictable event," not "accident." Accidents are generally predictable.

So the line is somewhere between "freak accident" and "accident" where responsibility starts to set in. I'm fine with that.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I specifically said "unpredictable event," not "accident." Accidents are generally predictable.

In a general sense. Put a bunch of cars on the road it is not only predictable but certain that some of them will be running into each other. But the accidents are still unpredicatable events.

 

[Lexicus]

In a general sense. Put a bunch of cars on the road it is not only predictable but certain that some of them will be running into each other. But the accidents are still unpredicatable events.

I really don't agree with this in the context of cars. Almost every single car accident has a discrete cause of someone not doing something they're supposed to be doing, or doing something they're not supposed to be doing. I can tell you for example that every car crash I've been in was entirely my fault and was the predictable consequence of my negligent actions (not paying proper attention to the road, driving too fast to stop in time given the distance to the car ahead, etc).

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I really don't agree with this in the context of cars. Almost every single car accident has a discrete cause of someone not doing something they're supposed to be doing, or doing something they're not supposed to be doing. I can tell you for example that every car crash I've been in was entirely my fault and was the predictable consequence of my negligent actions (not paying proper attention to the road, driving too fast to stop in time given the distance to the car ahead, etc).

Sure. But the reality is almost certainly that those things that "caused the accident" are in fact things that you and millions of other people are doing all the time while not having accidents. So they may be used to access responsibility for a particular accident after the fact, but they are not in any way valid predictors of it.

For the record, despite a very long career of doing irresponsible things while driving cars, the last accident I was in happened while I was genuinely doing everything right. Not speeding. No distractions. No known malfunctions in the car being ignored. No chemical impairments or lack of sleep. Zip. Nada. Just driving along and whammo.

 

[Lexicus]

For the record, despite a very long career of doing irresponsible things while driving cars, the last accident I was in happened while I was genuinely doing everything right. Not speeding. No distractions. No known malfunctions in the car being ignored. No chemical impairments or lack of sleep. Zip. Nada. Just driving along and whammo.

This was the other driver's fault, then, I take it?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

This was the other driver's fault, then, I take it?

Not really. Legally, yes. But she looked and just didn't see me. Trick of the light, more than any irresponsibility on her part. She was pulling out with possible threats in multiple directions and no way to look in all of them at once. She could say "oh, if I'd only looked left a bit longer, and right a bit less!!!" but the reality is that when you put a bunch of cars on the road some of them are going to run into each other. Cost of doing business.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Intentions are important, but bad results almost always provide opportunities for good acts.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Intentions are important, but bad results almost always provide opportunities for good acts.

If you were aware of the two clearly different meanings here, bravo. If not, then it is unintentional and even though it is still hilarious I cannot give you any credit for it.

 

[ulyssesSgrant]

If you were aware of the two clearly different meanings here, bravo. If not, then it is unintentional and even though it is still hilarious I cannot give you any credit for it.

What are the two different meanings? Asking for a friend.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

What are the two different meanings? Asking for a friend.

Good Samaritan: When I saw how things were going I was compelled to step in and try to make things better. It was just the right thing to do; it was a good act.
Participant in the disaster: When you came along I didn't want you to know that the disaster was going exactly as I planned. I claimed it wasn't my intention and apparently you bought it; it was a good act.

Tell your friend.