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Contributes but in that case, it should still be the stability scale. Isn't like the United States suddenly became politically unstable after Pearl Harbor.
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Contributes but in that case, it should still be the stability scale. Isn't like the United States suddenly became politically unstable after Pearl Harbor.
Tani Coyote
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I think all this happiness vs. stability stuff is nonsense based on nitpicking. 
Let's make this easy; people who are given plenty of goods have things to focus on besides guillotining you and your cronies.
Now, if happiness and stability were separate... I imagine stability would determine what could happen from unhappiness. Maybe a multiplier.
Example, a super stable nation, if its citizens are unhappy, will just unseat you next election or protest. A super unstable nation, if its citizens are unhappy, has a high chance of a civil war.
I suppose it could be happiness factor * stability factor is your true revolt risk, and whatever that is determines what happens if it's triggered.
Happiness 1 is the best and Stability 1 is the best.
Let's assume 5 levels of happiness and 5 levels of stability. Remember, higher is worse.
1-5 RR: Protests (probably income effects)
6-10 RR: Riots (Damage infrastructure/tech investments/kill units; income also destroyed)
11-15 RR: Revolts (Some provinces defect to rebels; all previous effects also apply)
16-20 RR: Massive revolt (large numbers of provinces rebel, all previous effects apply)
21-25 RR: Civil War (provinces switch to a rebel faction; half your armies break away, etc.)
A state at level 1 happiness(best) and stability 1 has only a 1/25 chance of revolt each turn. A state with level 5 happiness and level 5 stability has a 25/25 chance of civil war each turn.
A maximum stability state with level 5 happiness has a 1/5 chance of revolt each turn, but it's protests.
Obviously you roll 1-25 for each nation to determine if it's triggered.
Let's make this easy; people who are given plenty of goods have things to focus on besides guillotining you and your cronies.
Now, if happiness and stability were separate... I imagine stability would determine what could happen from unhappiness. Maybe a multiplier.
Example, a super stable nation, if its citizens are unhappy, will just unseat you next election or protest. A super unstable nation, if its citizens are unhappy, has a high chance of a civil war.
I suppose it could be happiness factor * stability factor is your true revolt risk, and whatever that is determines what happens if it's triggered.
Happiness 1 is the best and Stability 1 is the best.
Let's assume 5 levels of happiness and 5 levels of stability. Remember, higher is worse.
1-5 RR: Protests (probably income effects)
6-10 RR: Riots (Damage infrastructure/tech investments/kill units; income also destroyed)
11-15 RR: Revolts (Some provinces defect to rebels; all previous effects also apply)
16-20 RR: Massive revolt (large numbers of provinces rebel, all previous effects apply)
21-25 RR: Civil War (provinces switch to a rebel faction; half your armies break away, etc.)
A state at level 1 happiness(best) and stability 1 has only a 1/25 chance of revolt each turn. A state with level 5 happiness and level 5 stability has a 25/25 chance of civil war each turn.
A maximum stability state with level 5 happiness has a 1/5 chance of revolt each turn, but it's protests.
Obviously you roll 1-25 for each nation to determine if it's triggered.
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@TF: Can nations balkanize using that system? If so, awesome.
On another note, I'm going to use IOT: Cold War's DEFCON system for something. I noticed in Iron and Blood that TK, to prevent a player from suckerpunching another player with a surprise war, make it so war declaration are public. That's a greeaaaatttt system all things considered.
For RIOT III, players will have "DEFCON" levels which are really just mobilization levels. With this system, a player COULD sneak attack someone but at DEFCON 5, there's a combat penalty which gradually decreases as the player gets closer to full mobilization.
Full mobilization hurts income generation but all things considered, it's impossible to fully mobilize secretly.
On another note, I'm going to use IOT: Cold War's DEFCON system for something. I noticed in Iron and Blood that TK, to prevent a player from suckerpunching another player with a surprise war, make it so war declaration are public. That's a greeaaaatttt system all things considered.
For RIOT III, players will have "DEFCON" levels which are really just mobilization levels. With this system, a player COULD sneak attack someone but at DEFCON 5, there's a combat penalty which gradually decreases as the player gets closer to full mobilization.
Full mobilization hurts income generation but all things considered, it's impossible to fully mobilize secretly.
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I imagine you could squeeze Balkanisation in as the most severe condition, but it'd be the hardest to reach - low stability(Instability 5) and a majorly PO'd population(Unhappiness 5)
It's more accurate to refer to the categories as instability and unhappiness actually...
It's more accurate to refer to the categories as instability and unhappiness actually...
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OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH YEAAHHH!!!!!! 
Red Alert!
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Crazy part? Ruleset is already finished. Game is based on RA1. I had to balance some things out. For instance, the Allies can get an expensive, powerful Chrono Missile which is a nuclear missile that ignores the effects of the Iron Curtain. Otherwise, the Soviets will be able to simply nuke the Allies into submission at the end of the game.
There's a faction system in which players create their nations to either be neutral, part of the Warsaw Pact, or part of the Allies. If the players joins the WP or Allies, they can't unjoin and the WP and Allies are ALWAYS at war. Neutrals have more leeway with their diplomacy. The problem is that neutrals have to rely on one of factions to gain access to better weapons. Otherwise, they can only use Engineers and Rifle Infantry and the low tier buildings like Ore Refineries, Ore Silos, and Power Plants.
A WP or Ally can sell production contracts to neutrals in which neutrals can pay a negotiate amount of credits per turn in exchange for being able to build specified units/buildings. In this way, it should be near impossible to see neutrals with nuclear weapons, Chronospheres, or Iron Curtains.
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Red Alert IOT
Month: July. Year: 1946.
The Allies, largely a collection of democratic, capitalist states are at war with the Warsaw Pact, a collection of communist dictatorships. The Allies and Warsaw Pact will need to use a combination of military power and strategic alliances with neutral powers to win this war!
There are three sides.
Allies: Fast striking and extremely important infantry units. The powerful Chronosphere is able to teleport a non-infantry attack force into the middle of enemy territory, which changes the way war is fought forever.
Warsaw Pact: Weaker infantry. Power vehicles and airforce. Pact members employ the powerful Iron Curtain, which can project an force field around a territory, preventing the Allies from attacking it.
Neutrals: These nations aren't at war at the beginning like Allied and Warsaw Pact nations will be. However, they're militarily weak. To build mid-level and late-level units and structures requires them to seek Production Contracts with either the Soviets of Allies. Production contracts last a specified amount of time and the Soviets and Allies will want something in return. If a neutral attacks an Ally or Warsaw Pact, the neutral is at war with ALL the Allies or Warsaw Pact.
Because of this, neutrals can attack other neutrals with only defensive pacts being a deterrent. At some point, the Warsaw Pact of Allies must see you as a valuable target however....
Neutrals can join either the Allies or Warsaw Pact later in the game but once someone join a faction, they can't withdraw. The Allies and WP can sign ceasefires.
The game ends when all the Warsaw Pact or Allies are wiped out and all wars are over. The survivors all "win" but the top players get a reward.
Starting Out
Make your nation. Pick your capital (this is where you free buildings will be created). Pick your faction.
Battles
When you send me battle orders, list the order you want your units to fight. Not Rifle Infantry, Grenadier, RI, RI, etc. No, not like that. Make it simple and group it by units. For example:
Attack Ankara:
Four Rifleinfantry
Two Yaks
etc
There are two types of battles. Raids, and Conquest.
Raids are battles that aren't supposed to take the territory but instead cause destruction. If your unit loses a combat round, instead of dying, there's an "escape" roll. If your unit succeeds, then the unit escapes. Winning units escape automatically of course.
Conquests are like the above only without the escape roll and the point is to take territory.
Constructing Units
Units cost money and require the creation of certain buildings. How many buildings you have limit how many units you can build per turn. If you have one War Factory for instance, you can only build one vehicle per turn. Four barracks? You can build four infantry per turn.
Neutrals can build power plants, ore refineries, ore silos, and barracks. The only units they can train without production contracts are Rifle Infantry and Engineers.
Warsaw Pact Buildings and Unit Premier
Allied Buildings and Unit Premier
Month: July. Year: 1946.
The Allies, largely a collection of democratic, capitalist states are at war with the Warsaw Pact, a collection of communist dictatorships. The Allies and Warsaw Pact will need to use a combination of military power and strategic alliances with neutral powers to win this war!
There are three sides.
Allies: Fast striking and extremely important infantry units. The powerful Chronosphere is able to teleport a non-infantry attack force into the middle of enemy territory, which changes the way war is fought forever.
Warsaw Pact: Weaker infantry. Power vehicles and airforce. Pact members employ the powerful Iron Curtain, which can project an force field around a territory, preventing the Allies from attacking it.
Neutrals: These nations aren't at war at the beginning like Allied and Warsaw Pact nations will be. However, they're militarily weak. To build mid-level and late-level units and structures requires them to seek Production Contracts with either the Soviets of Allies. Production contracts last a specified amount of time and the Soviets and Allies will want something in return. If a neutral attacks an Ally or Warsaw Pact, the neutral is at war with ALL the Allies or Warsaw Pact.
Because of this, neutrals can attack other neutrals with only defensive pacts being a deterrent. At some point, the Warsaw Pact of Allies must see you as a valuable target however....
Neutrals can join either the Allies or Warsaw Pact later in the game but once someone join a faction, they can't withdraw. The Allies and WP can sign ceasefires.
The game ends when all the Warsaw Pact or Allies are wiped out and all wars are over. The survivors all "win" but the top players get a reward.
Starting Out
Make your nation. Pick your capital (this is where you free buildings will be created). Pick your faction.
Battles
When you send me battle orders, list the order you want your units to fight. Not Rifle Infantry, Grenadier, RI, RI, etc. No, not like that. Make it simple and group it by units. For example:
Attack Ankara:
Four Rifleinfantry
Two Yaks
etc
There are two types of battles. Raids, and Conquest.
Raids are battles that aren't supposed to take the territory but instead cause destruction. If your unit loses a combat round, instead of dying, there's an "escape" roll. If your unit succeeds, then the unit escapes. Winning units escape automatically of course.
Conquests are like the above only without the escape roll and the point is to take territory.
Constructing Units
Units cost money and require the creation of certain buildings. How many buildings you have limit how many units you can build per turn. If you have one War Factory for instance, you can only build one vehicle per turn. Four barracks? You can build four infantry per turn.
Neutrals can build power plants, ore refineries, ore silos, and barracks. The only units they can train without production contracts are Rifle Infantry and Engineers.
Warsaw Pact Buildings and Unit Premier
Spoiler :
Allied Buildings and Unit Premier
Spoiler :
Lighthearter
President of the United States
Where's the Longbow and the navies?
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In my word document. I had forgotten about them when I uploaded the list.
Aircraft
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Vessels
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Lighthearter
President of the United States
You know, it might be cool to let the WP and Allies capture each others tech - I've always wanted to see a pair of cruisers slug it out with each other.
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Thought about it.
But on the map, the buildings are represented using two letters such as WF, AF, OR, OS, etc. I figure I could put SWF, SAF, etc but it would get sorta ridiculous.
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Rebalanced unit strength and costs. The Tesla Tank, for instance, is now nearly as expensive a Mammoth Tank. Meanwhile, the cost of Phase Transports are not buffed as well.
Constructing Units
Units cost money and require the creation of certain buildings. How many buildings you have limit how many units you can build per turn. If you have one War Factory for instance, you can only build one vehicle per turn. Four barracks? You can build four infantry per turn.
Neutrals can build power plants, ore refineries, ore silos, and barracks. The only units they can train without production contracts are Rifle Infantry and Engineers.
Warsaw Pact Buildings and Unit Premier
Allied Buildings and Unit Premier
Constructing Units
Units cost money and require the creation of certain buildings. How many buildings you have limit how many units you can build per turn. If you have one War Factory for instance, you can only build one vehicle per turn. Four barracks? You can build four infantry per turn.
Neutrals can build power plants, ore refineries, ore silos, and barracks. The only units they can train without production contracts are Rifle Infantry and Engineers.
Warsaw Pact Buildings and Unit Premier
Spoiler :
Allied Buildings and Unit Premier
Spoiler :
Mad Man
Your lord and master
Can some one make a map of Antarctica with fictional provincial borders added?
NedimNapoleon
Weird Little Human
I'll make a better version, do you want Antarctica (none ice border) or Ice border
NedimNapoleon
Weird Little Human
The melted Antarctica map
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