IOTMAD: Mutually Assured Destruction

Really LH? Criticism is defying a GM? That has to be one of the most immature penalizations one has to give!

I demand you change the stats and remove the penalization. I will consult mods if I have to!

Do you WANT me to increase the penalty? I even sent you that in private to keep this discussion out of the public eye.

Drop the issue. Accept the 1IP penalty and work with it for the future. "demanding" things from a GM will not get you anywhere.

This is my last verdict and comment on the issue, and your last warning.

-The Man
 

Do you WANT me to increase the penalty? I even sent you that in private to keep this discussion out of the public eye.

Drop the issue. Accept the 1IP penalty and work with it for the future. "demanding" things from a GM will not get you anywhere.

This is my last verdict and comment on the issue, and your last warning.

-The Man

Threatening me over my criticism? This is not "strong GMship" but rather immature usage of power.

Drop the issue? Oh ok... I will drop a unfair abuse of GM power... yeh right. I am sorry Light but Ailedhoo will not bow to misuse of power.

O and "The Man" just makes you sound even more immature.

I would be using a civil way to criticise you openly but frankly you have just step so low in your immature GMship that I quite honesty think further penalization and keeping of penalizations would not only be a ill practice here but would question your ability to GM in other games. If you cannot take a dash of criticism and commentary without marking it down as "low tack mourning" (which is question: how does one categorises this? Hence why your penalization is questionable) and penalizes it... then clearly the GM has failed in the most important of task: to maintain a fun and stable environment for the game. Your penalization penalties you given provide neither fun or stability, especially over a issue of petty criticism.
 
The problem is that you do not criticize him for a game rule (like I did in Enlightment IOT), but over a penalty because you spammed the thread.
 
The problem is that you do not criticize him for a game rule (like I did in Enlightment IOT), but over a penalty because you spammed the thread.

Criticism is spam I see. :rolleyes:

The eye of the beholder Chris, especially as you should know in accusations.

What ever the case the penalization occurred under one post. Here is just a response at a ill act.
 
You should not criticize in the thread over something that happend in a chat. That is spam.
 
I am criticising over something in a chat Christos? The issue was the threat of penalizing a person for what they said in Catango Chris and I got penalize for defending a criticism by a IOTer! I was criticising a practice of penalizing and got penalized for it. That... is not a good practice of GMship!

It was too late to move it to private in Chitango (a public place) and the comment on AG's criticism was questionable. Hence the publicity.
 
From Republic of China
To Turan:


Please do not expand in Sinkiang or there shall be war.

From China
To Japan:


We offer a defensive alliance to protect Asia from European and Turkish Imperialism.
 
Here is my trade, I will PM it as well:

-Watcher States of Indonesia (North Australia - Guinea) [Son accepted in Chat]
-Falklands Commune (East Australia - Chile)
-Republic of India (West Australia - Sri Lanka)
-Republic of Uswahili (Tasmania - Madagascar)


As we have one trade route left due to the collapse of Japan, we offer a trade route to Canada (East Australia - Alaska).

I note that I'm accepting this for my own record.

Northern Watch, I can't remember if you asked, but the game has started so I'm accepting trade routes now.

Anymore offers? I'll make sure to include these in my orders.
 
I note that I'm accepting this for my own record.

Northern Watch, I can't remember if you asked, but the game has started so I'm accepting trade routes now.

Anymore offers? I'll make sure to include these in my orders.

Yes. Falklands Commune requests trade with the Watcher States.
 
Hey, hypocrites.



Sent to me and the Second Lenin State. Of course, Poland declined. So before you start accusing France of trying to invade Germany, look at your own diplomatic history. Seems you and France have a lot in common if it is true.

The Commune of France, which is peace loving, will also note that we recieved a similar PM from the Northern Watch

Arya said:
France no? The Northern Watch has a proposal. You have a race for Spain brewing in the south against those Africans, and even if they do not pursue it, they are already holding Gibraltar and the gap into the Med. Therefore I propose we let them get embroiled in this war in Asia for a turn or two, then strike together. If you build up your land forces and my navy forces, we should overrun them in a single turn. Division of territory would go thus: I get morocco, the coastal region south of it, and claims to the atlantic islands in the region such as the azores and canaries. You get all of Spain, Algeria, Mali, and freedom to keep expanding to have the French Commune encompass a large part of Africa as well. And if the Great Turan should choose to try and retake their ally's lands after their war with China, my navy will stop them in their tracks.

Do you find this proposal enticing?

Any and all accusations against France by the fascist Watch stems from our refusal to engage in reactionary imperialism. For the sake of world stability, ignore their rambling.
 
Trade with the Falklands as well as with France (both of which I offered earlier) are accepted.

Given the recent developments in Europe, the USCM no longer has any defensive obligations to the Northern Watch.
 
I note that I'm accepting this for my own record.

Northern Watch, I can't remember if you asked, but the game has started so I'm accepting trade routes now.

Anymore offers? I'll make sure to include these in my orders.

India will offer a trade route.
 
Sure, I'll offer a trade route.
 
Oho! Are we to band against the watch without allowing it to explain itself? Surely we are above that? Surely if you were to simply ask for an explanation, the Watch would tell you these PMs were bait. Surely, we would tell you that we sent these in the interest of intelligence to see if any of our neighbors held ill will towards us, or perhaps another. Whats that old saying? Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer? We indeed PMed France to see if they were interested in attacking the Northwest african nation. They weren't. They in fact held a very strong hostility to us when we broached the subject, leading us to believe they were plotting against either us or Germany. Poland we sent a PM to see if they were interested in attacking Germany with the Watch and Russia. But why would we attack Germany? It was merely bait to see if they held aggressive tendencies towards Germany. Surely when you have 2 capitalist nations surrounded by communists, you see the logic of trying to discover if they intend to invade?

Oh no, but conspiracies, even fake ones, must be taken at face value. Of course.

Canada we ask that you rethink your breaking of our pact based on the above. Your previous decision was rational based on the facts presented at the time, but above are facts anew. I hope an intelligence operation gone wrong and used against the Watch is not enough to break off our budding friendship, friends in the North.

To prove we hold no ill will towards these nations we used as bait in our PMs, we offer Germany and the Northwest African State (sorry Ailed, can't remember) an NAP.

Watcher States, we indeed did ask. We are glad we can build a trade relationship.
 
Yes. We're on the first turn.
 
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