christos200
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From China
To those who claimed Taiwan:
We want to buy Taiwan. Tell us a price.
To those who claimed Taiwan:
We want to buy Taiwan. Tell us a price.
IOTMAD: Mutually Assured Destruction
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We will be happy to trade these provinces around to better promote peace.
We are sorry that our trade is now full. However we would direct you to the Deserters, who as a commercial nation, would give you the same level of trade as you would receive from us. They would be happy to have more income to better defend themselves from USA oppression. The New England state will also be after trade. I believe the fourth Reich has no trade yet and will be happy to have some.
OOC: Sorry that this had to happen. We tried several times to deal with the issue and hope it won't happen again. Also, the Cannaries are one province, but the Azores are another. Two sets of island chains.
The Northern Watch claimed Taiwan. We would encourage our allies the Northern Watch not to sell.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
Why not? They gain, we gain a province. It is win - win for both.
OOC: By the way, I have the world's largest nuclear stockpile, so if I want, I can nuke you both and I do not care if China is also detsroyed.
OOC: By the way, I have the world's largest nuclear stockpile, so if I want, I can nuke you both and I do not care if China is also detsroyed.
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OOC: You can't do that until DEFCON ONE is reached and that requires at least three turns of war.
christos200
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OOC: I can last three turns, even if with one province, to nuke the Watch or how they are called and even if they win, I will have ruined them.
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Understood. We will open to the Deserters for trade. We also open to New England and the fourth Reich.
As a sign of improved relations with Egypt the UMWE is willing to support Egypt's stance and would encourage China not to threat over Taiwan less the Northern Watch and Egypt use their super weapons in retaliation. Consider this punishment for China's aggression towards our Turkish allies.
In other news we have our claimant plans:
The Canneries and the Azores will both be wali emirates of our union!
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The United Commonwealth encourages the Northern Watch to trade Taiwan the province for a reasonable price. However we also wish to ask China NOT to escalate the situation again. The threats of nuclear attack from groups in your government really worries us, needless escalation of local conflicts will attract international damnation.
christos200
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We never said such thing (That's why I used OOC). We just want to buy the province.
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OOC: That's a really annoying way of using OOC.
A province is not just a piece of land. It is a stable source of income. It is 1 IP every turn for as long as the Northern Watch holds it. It is not a win-win for the Northern Watch to sell it for one lump sum, certainly not for anything less then 5IP. But we are also making our judgement from a moral and tactical standpoint. Allowing China Taiwan is allowing them off the continent and giving tactic agreement for them to sail the seas. Given China's aggressive attitude we would prefer them bottled up on one landmass.
OOC: I will ignore the Nuke threat. For one, you have the largest stockpile by having put exactly 2IP into it. That isn't threatening. For two, if you were serious about a threat you would make it as China, not hide behind OOC comments that you can't be called on.
As friends to the Deserters we will vouch for the Wali Emirates and encourage them to trade.
We thank the United Commonwealth for their words. While we still believe that Taiwan should stay in Northern Hands we see nothing wrong with the Phillipeans being handed over to the Commonwealth ruling body.
OOC: I think Arya mentioned that he wasn't trying to take the Phillipeans, LH just gave him that one because he used the wrong island name or something. I'm sure he spotted your desire to have all of Indonesia.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
We are willing to pay 6IP. And Taiwan is Chinese populated, so from a Moral point of view, it should by ours, stupid Egyptians!
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USCM would like to offer trade to the Deserters and to New England.
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By a moral point of view Taiwan should be kept out of the hands of a aggressive, xenophobic leaded power like China. Uyghur is of Turkish population but China held aggressive imperial consideration, threatening over the province. The bully must not be rewarded. China must not be given Taiwan. If it must be given then at least have Uyghur be given to Turan as a mark of honour.
Anyway: a province is a lot more than 6IP.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
About Trade:
FSNE:
-Wali: Accepted, with gracious thanks.
-USCM Accepted, Socialist brothers. But your trade routes are full!
Deserters:
-Wali Accepted.
-USCM Accepted. But your trade routes are full!
Fourth Reich:
-Wali Ja, accepted. We are preyed upon by power-hungry France and Poland, and need all the support we can get.
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FSNE:
-Wali: Accepted, with gracious thanks.
-USCM Accepted, Socialist brothers. But your trade routes are full!
Deserters:
-Wali Accepted.
-USCM Accepted. But your trade routes are full!
Fourth Reich:
-Wali Ja, accepted. We are preyed upon by power-hungry France and Poland, and need all the support we can get.
-L
Terran Empress
Hornet
Im just going to throw this out there, you cannot use the same excuse i used to try to take Uyghur when you actively faught against it.
This is the Great Turan's opinion on this matter.
and honestly how about this, The Northern Watch gives china 1 IP and china may use their military to help the Chinese in Taiwan to move to china.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
No.
8 IP's is the higher price we can give for Taiwan. Otherwise, we will have to make use of military force.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
From: SSSL
To: China
Chinese comrades, we come with sad news. We have recently been threatened brutally by emissaries of the Great Turan. We know you have attempted to defend your prerogatives and sovereignty in the region from these monsters before, so we humbly ask for your protection in a full military alliance against Turkish imperialism.
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To: China
Chinese comrades, we come with sad news. We have recently been threatened brutally by emissaries of the Great Turan. We know you have attempted to defend your prerogatives and sovereignty in the region from these monsters before, so we humbly ask for your protection in a full military alliance against Turkish imperialism.
-L
christos200
Never tell me the odds
From China
To SSSL:
We shall accept. Imperialists like the Watch and Turan will not be tolerated.
To SSSL:
We shall accept. Imperialists like the Watch and Turan will not be tolerated.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
The SSSL now states their intention to colonize the remaining unclaimed Russian lands, and places claims upon East Siberia(Northern Watch), Karelia(Northern Watch)South Urals(Great Turan), Kazakhstan(Great Turan), Caucasus(Great Turan), Baltic States(Poland) and Eastern Europe(Poland).
All these regions belong rightfully to Mother Russia.
The Fourth Reich is requesting defensive pacts with the Wali Emirates and the Northern Watch, stating their apprehension at the idea of a potential French or Polish assault into their weak country.
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All these regions belong rightfully to Mother Russia.
The Fourth Reich is requesting defensive pacts with the Wali Emirates and the Northern Watch, stating their apprehension at the idea of a potential French or Polish assault into their weak country.
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Quit with these jokes, what are your real claims?
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