Is being gay morally wrong?

Is being gay morally wrong?

  • Being gay is morally wrong

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • Being gay is not morally wrong

    Votes: 59 55.1%
  • Acting on your feelings is morally wrong, ie sexual expression

    Votes: 5 4.7%
  • I think this is essentially a societal issue and not really a moral one

    Votes: 7 6.5%
  • Live and let live

    Votes: 16 15.0%
  • Gay people are an abomination and there actions are repugnent to God.

    Votes: 6 5.6%
  • Other: please xplain

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Some radioactive monkeys are gay too.

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    107
  • Poll closed .
Jesus told his followers to be sexually pure, and from a Jewish perspective, that included homosexuality. Therefore, to the Christian, homosexuality is a sin, and should be avoided for the sake of following God's will.
 
You know I said that in jest...

That makes ethical code relative to the society which makes it the same as majority rule.

Ethical ideas when in practice are called laws, it maybe majority rule, but that is democracy, if you don't like a particular law you are free to vote someone else in or to exercise your democratic right to protest it.

And I wasn't sure, try using smilies :)
 
Ethical ideas when in practice are called laws, it maybe majority rule, but that is democracy, if you don't like a particular law you are free to vote someone else in or to exercise your democratic right to protest it.

And I wasn't sure, try using smilies :)

Then ethical code is controlled by society and moral code is decided by a individual, from the most part a moral code is stricter then the ethics of a society. That doesn't make it that moral code unethical, it would only be unethical if it was forced on others.
 
Then ethical code is controlled by society and moral code is decided by a individual, from the most part a moral code is stricter then the ethics of a society. That doesn't make it that moral code unethical, it would only be unethical if it was forced on others.

I never said it was, I just question the foundation of such morals, and as of yet I haven't seen any reason not to do otherwise. It seems that the only good reason is God said so, that is not going to sway religious liberals or secularist communities, in fact it's a bit of a weak argument from that perspective.

Jesus told his followers to be sexually pure, and from a Jewish perspective, that included homosexuality. Therefore, to the Christian, homosexuality is a sin, and should be avoided for the sake of following God's will.

What did he mean by this, was he condemning adultery or something else, can you show me where he meant homosexuality or just prostitution, promiscuity or adultery?
 
I never said it was, I just question the foundation of such morals, and as of yet I haven't seen any reason not to do otherwise. It seems that the only good reason is God said so, that is not going to sway religious liberals or secularist communities, in fact it's a bit of a weak argument from that perspective.



What did he mean by this, was he condemning adultery or something else, can you show me where he meant homosexuality or just prostitution, promiscuity or adultery?

God tells me I shouldn't kill people, to be honest the only reason I don't kill people is because he told me not too. Should I not listen to god?:mischief:

I never said that you said that about ethics, I was just stating that is how it seems to work.
 
God tells me I shouldn't kill people, to be honest the only reason I don't kill people is because he told me not too. Should I not listen to god?:mischief:
If that's the case, then, you've got some serious issues :p
 
Two things: First, I don't think this is so much a societal law as it is a moral one, which is more important. Second, I already have my "sexuality" limited by moral rules: I don't believe I can morally have sex with another man, or an animal, or with any woman I am not married to. It's not like we're saying "no sexual limitations for straight people, but gays don't get any".
You Forgot to add no BJs.
 
Homosexual orientation itself is not morally wrong. Acting upon their feelings (eg. engaging in homosexual sex) is morally wrong.

Why do we need another thread like this? Dead. Horse. Whipped. Into. Puree.
People just love to whip the dead horse :lol:.
 
Does that mean that all Morality must me come from rationality and if it doesn't does that mean it is not a "moral"?

Yes - the field that deals with such things is called Ethics, and is an applied field of philosophy.

@B3K: Well, how do we define "morality" then?
I guess that, uh, depends on how you define "define". :p Failing that:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/morality-definition/

The term “morality” can be used either

1. descriptively to refer to a code of conduct put forward by a society or,
a. some other group, such as a religion, or
b. accepted by an individual for her own behavior or
2. normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.

(The Standard Encyclopedia of Philosophy is the sure bet to get a good answer for any philosophical question -think of it as a more intelligent Wikipedia for Philosophy, except it's peer reviewed)

#2 is the definition in particular, that of defining objective morality.
 
But its Necrophilia, which is even worse. Maybe we should open a thread, and proove that OTers can argue about anything. :p
 
So if it is dead its not immoral?
 
Technically speaking, I don't see how it could be worse. Sure, it's dirty and disgusting, but we don't rationally ban things just because it's dirty, and unlike bestiality, there's nothing alive to be cruel to, with the possible exception of cruelty towards bacteria.

So if it is dead its not immoral?
No, just being nitpicky. :p
 
I think its cruelty to ones genitials.
 
I see pretty much what I expected, it's morally wrong because God said so, there's no weight of morality behind it, no reason. Just basically the reason it was no doubt founded in the first place and is still going, disgust and insecurity, unlike with adultery and theft which have at least some sort of reasoning behind them; it just is; well gentlemen I don't think your going to get very far convincing anyone else of this one, so I'll take some marshmallows and go roast them in hell.:) :p
 
Morally wrong to you, but really do you think the secular world cares about your opinion,

Apparently it does since the secular world insists on threads like this.:rolleyes:

since we've introduced laws in Europe making discrimination against gays illegal, and even voicing this opinion in public or to a crowd of people could get you locked up, you'll have to do better than that.

Not from Europe so I could care less about what the EU does or does not do about it.
 
I see pretty much what I expected, it's morally wrong because God said so, there's no weight of morality behind it, no reason.

Again, because you didn't get it the first time:

If you believe in the Christian God, isn't "because God said so" a darn compelling reason to believe something?

If you're saying that it isn't compelling to non-Christians, then you're just stating the obvious. But I imagine they're more intent on converting people than convincing them that being gay is wrong. First things first and all that.

Just basically the reason it was no doubt founded in the first place and is still going, disgust and insecurity

Umm...what?
 
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