One might say that's due to the efforts of Johnson and other journalists stinking up the Mail, Express and so on for 20 years, trying to make everyone believe that. One might also say that it's the British island mentality that doesn't belong, rather than the British people themselves.
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One might say that's due to the efforts of Johnson and other journalists stinking up the Mail, Express and so on for 20 years, trying to make everyone believe that. One might also say that it's the British island mentality that doesn't belong, rather than the British people themselves.
Point out not inexistencies, O Hero, lest thou be dismissede as an expert on the subject.
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Mega Tsunami
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I meant a eurosceptic people which didn’t properly translate into a eurosceptic parliament.
Thatcher had a majority in parliament but not a eurosceptic majority.
You see it was differences on the EU in parliament that did for Thatcher and Major. Not differences on Health, education, the economy etc. No, it was the EU.
It always bugged me that the EU was barely mentioned during General Elections (those were about health, education etc) but then the EU proceeded to have a massive influence on us during the course of the parliament. ERM, Black Wednesday, Maastrcht, Lisbon etc.
Until, of course, Cameron decided for the 2010 election to make the EU important. And the rest is history.
Verbose
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Still not the EU demanding how national UK politics should be played in that respect. Since UK politics never took the EU seriously, and it — until now I guess — was never made a major item in any electoral process, maybe it's not that surprising?
But it really isn't any doing of the EU, or necessarily how it must work elsewhere. No one made the UK do anything in any particular way here.
This all really is about UK domestic politics. I guess some things might gain a certain new clarity, with no EU to blame?
But it really isn't any doing of the EU, or necessarily how it must work elsewhere. No one made the UK do anything in any particular way here.
This all really is about UK domestic politics. I guess some things might gain a certain new clarity, with no EU to blame?
Not sure if you think the Uk would vote to leave EU if not for what happened to the EU these last austerity charade years. Maybe you do, though. In which case it is part of the issue.
Talk of a vote before the austerity period was always only about the euro currency. This isn't a 20 years of Britain wanting to leave the EU and now it did, spin.
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Allow me to be, I am sure you'll understand, skeptical on this one.
Britain is a major contributor to the EU budget and this was a frequent complaint of the Leave-side. I can understand why people are upset when British taxes are being used to pay the Greek debts.
Which would be grand except that British taxes were not used to pay Greek debts...
https://infacts.org/mythbusts/britain-didnt-bail-greece/
The British contribution broadly went to support less developed regions of the EU.
Lillefix
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I think they were actually, but not through the EU, but through IMF.
Haven't heard this in a while, do you live in Polandball 2012? Aka Bild newspaper alt facts.
FriendlyFire
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Should I start a new Grexit thread ?
Anyways the strange thing is I though greece met its fiscal target but missed its reform targets. With the UK headed out of the EU major power shift will mean that Germany rather then France will become the dominate player. Then there is the IMF which is the US deciding it has had enough of Greece. Its time to dust of that 10 year time out plan for Greece, Have the EU finance the transition to prevent total collapse and instability unless the Greeks become totally intractable. Then work on Keeping the UK in the EU, How about pushing though that immigration emergency break for the UK ? Or new EU wide immigration policy ?
Any Poor Greece, maybe spending Germanys euromonies on lunches and pensions werent such a great idea
Anyways the strange thing is I though greece met its fiscal target but missed its reform targets. With the UK headed out of the EU major power shift will mean that Germany rather then France will become the dominate player. Then there is the IMF which is the US deciding it has had enough of Greece. Its time to dust of that 10 year time out plan for Greece, Have the EU finance the transition to prevent total collapse and instability unless the Greeks become totally intractable. Then work on Keeping the UK in the EU, How about pushing though that immigration emergency break for the UK ? Or new EU wide immigration policy ?
Any Poor Greece, maybe spending Germanys euromonies on lunches and pensions werent such a great idea
EnglishEdward
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm
The British Broadcasting Corporation is of course alternative facts.
I just can't condone the BBC's use of blackface. Eg League of Gentlemen. :/ That is what this all is about.
Things get more interesting by the day.
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