Yesterday I heard a massive wall of criticism against the European Union and since I don't know much about the EU, I couldn't say anything against it. What little that I've been told here I did try to say, but they told me that I was wrong and they had evidence why, while keep going on about how they are rational, unbiased and completely logical and how everything about the EU is a nonsense. Their idea for leaving the EU seems to be in their words either a complete divorce from the EU or the EU itself should be completely dismantled. The idea that anyone would want to join the EU seems completely absurd to them and they have no idea why countries like the Czech Republic decided to join after the fall of the Soviet Union, since it seems to them like trading once communist regime for another.
The first thing, they said that the European Union is in fact more like a cult, comparing it to Scientology, that lies to gullible people with false promises and only exists to steal money. The EU exists solely for itself, just like a bureaucracy.
They asked me what is the true purpose of the EU. I mentioned things about trying to prevent another World War and the idea of federalism, but they said that those are only myths.
The EU solely exists as a group of middle management types with far too much power and the EU exists without any kind of checks and balances to help limit any power they wield over the member nations.
The EU can force a law upon any nation even if that nation doesn't agree with that law, the example they brought up is the free movement of people.
The EU take forever in trying to make decisions, the example they give is that the EU still hasn't guaranteed freedom of speech. I did mention the European Convention of Human Rights but they are against that.
The EU isn't democratic since only the European Parliament is elected.
The idea that the EU helps economic growth is a myth. When the UK joined the EU, it helped to ruin the UK economy and many businesses have failed because of the EU.
Any trade deals or economic growth that has happened in the past forty years would've have been better if done by the UK itself and not through the EU.
The EU suffers from the same problem as liberalism, it likes to celebrate diversity by forcing everyone to be the same.
The EU goes against the will of the people of the member nations. There are far too many different people within the EU that it's impossible for it to work as a united government. They backed that up by saying for example the Romanian government works because it only represents the Romanian people. This is shown by the growth of reactionary movements against the EU, such as what has happened in Hungary.
If the EU does try to improve the member nations its only by doing things that have already been done, such as building a road where a road already exists.
I mentioned the problem with the Irish border. Their solution is that the Republic of Ireland should also leave the EU and rejoin the UK.
