Cheezy the Wiz
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So in other words, instead of getting nothing done they were getting nothing done?
Is it likely the USA will ever split up
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So in other words, instead of getting nothing done they were getting nothing done?
Underdawg
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Barring some extreme and unforseen event (such as a catastrophic war that devastated national/global communications and infrastructure) and assuming that the average "fairly rational but somewhat opinionated" joe stays vocal enough from letting the nuts on both sides get into power, I think the US will survive as a single entity until humanity evolves towards a true world government.
Of course I'm sure that someone will try to secede again, sooner or later. It'll probably play out much like the last time - we go to war, they get smacked down, we kiss & make up, some subset group gets to spend the next 150 saying things like "the war of xxxx aggression" and "the xxxx will rise again".
Of course I'm sure that someone will try to secede again, sooner or later. It'll probably play out much like the last time - we go to war, they get smacked down, we kiss & make up, some subset group gets to spend the next 150 saying things like "the war of xxxx aggression" and "the xxxx will rise again".
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
One..it is a gross overstatement to claim the government 'ground to a halt' over Terry Schiavo. Two. The entire thing was a travesty of justice in that the husband had obviously moved on with his life and should have recused himself from making decisions for her. Three. The national conversation isnt dominated by people like Pat Robertson...hell, even conservatives like me will say Pat Robertson is a loony. But to allege that our government is dominated by people like him is a utterly false statement.
You also declined to give any reason for your belief that the South has dominated politics for the last 40 years. Should I take that as proof that your opinion is just that, and with no basis of fact to support it?
dcbandicoot
the true corporate champ
Will the USA split up in the near future?
In brief.. no.
If you want the longer answer... not a chance in hell.
In brief.. no.
If you want the longer answer... not a chance in hell.
cthom
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it won't split up, they'll just stop talking to each other 
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Nope, the US will never split up.
Bengalsfan58
Chieftain
I doubt the USA will split up. A more likely scenario would be a state splitting up such as California into northern & southern California.
thenooblet22
King
Let me introduce you to China
Let me introduce you to reality. The U.S., as it is now, has a fairly balanced power between the central government and its states. Like others have said, the only immediate cause would be a successful invasion, drastic climate change or other types of urgent turmoils that would spark bitterness betweeen argueing states. Besides, Americans have grown a nationalism that will be hard to break.
G-Force Junkie
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Although China has been invaded and subjugated a number of times only to rise from the ashes. Perhaps the better question isn't if the United States of America will fall like the Chinese dynasties of times long past, but whether America as a nation (like China (no PRC, ROC, or any particular regime in China)) will fall like the Roman Empire into different peoples that will merge as their own nations. What is boils down to is the question of whether the US is a union of several different cultures with very little unity or one culture with minor regional differences.
thenooblet22
King
Yes, the point was that China, despite invasions and temporary divisions, was unified 'till today. America is a house of immigrants so there will never be "cultural identity" unless you count the Hispanics. I can't imagine any state(s) that is militarily, economically and diplomatically strong enough to make such a bold move.
cubsfan6506
Got u
End of the world.
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
I think it's more likely that a big city in the US (like NY) will break up into other cities... errrrr... wait.... I guess it already has..
Xanikk999
History junkie
That is so not true. Throughout history china has sometimes been split up into seperate kingdoms that were NOT unified in anyway.
They competed intensly and invaded eachother.
thenooblet22
King
For the third time, maybe I should clarrify the meaning of 'unified.' You don't have to be a single country to be culturally unified. That is why, after hundreds of years of divisions and foreign occupation, the Chinese traditions of an administrative burreacracy, civil service exams, and Confucian ideals continued to be the wireframe of the succeeding dynasties. Would you please stop knit-picking everything I say and use common sense.
Desmond Hawkins
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Economic integration has progressed very far amongst the various states. Only massive economic disintegration could allow them to break apart, and even then, it is still not likely.
Eukaryote
Deity
I can see these states becoming independant nations: Hawaii, California, and Texas. I can also see all the states Northeast of New York joining together to become one country.
The Tollan
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Nationalist and/or patriotic sentiment is now much more widely dispersed in the U.S. than it was in the early and mid-nineteenth century. The era of those who cared primarily about their region has passed (for now at least). Some may think this way; however, they seem to be a very small percent of the population.
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