. I'm not even going to argue with the reference to me, it's so true. I play pretty nice with "friendly" AIs that meet one of two conditions: 1. They are in my religion, which isn't the AP religion, I built the AP, and I'm going to use them to make me the winner. 2. They are currently stronger than me or another opponent that is also convenient to take down. Otherwise, they're toast. No qualms about squishing the weaker "friendlies". They get back to friendly decently as vassals, or they can be smeared off the planet entirely to make room for more tiles to work and more long-term power. Who doesn't like long term power? The AI doesn't mind donating some cities after it's dead. Of course, since the AI is coded to not backstab you at friendly unless it's the backstabby-cathy-who-looks-nothing-like-she-did-in-real-life, I will leave such AIs alone when there are other targets available for the time being. Such useful presences may even do something like give me a buffer for attacking more savory opponents while simultaneously setting themselves up for a pincer attack. I love when they do that. Sometimes I accidentally win domination before I anyone, or decide that using the AP I captured will take less effort. Does that count as loyalty? Also, I strongly recommend reading the post suggested by Niklas - it highlights when the AI will DoW pretty well. Nothing ruins war plans like wars I didn't plan for, and it's been a while since I've had that happen thanks to perusing that a bit. Say CivCorpse, would you care to open borders with me and trade some copper to me? I need it to build the colossus. Yes, that's it...the colossus. I want to "strengthen the economy" a bit. I have some gems! What say you?!