JalNES I: Quick and Easy

[The Farow]

I added a title

 

[jalapeno_dude]

I added a title

Thanks. Will add the story to the front page.

 

[TerrisH]

whops, spoke to soon.

ORders Sent.

 

[LittleBoots]

OOC:

@alex - You're not dumb, you're just paranoid. Not a bad quality in NESes. However, I will be honest with you, I personally have no plans to invade Rome, as doing so from Ireland in this time period would be ridiculously out of place. I can go in depth about why I attacked Tartessos in the first place, although the 300 year dedication is less realistic (bitter vengence for slain fathers is the best excuse I suppose). Then again, I suppose my military orders are not as comprehensive as they could be, as I'm not thinking in terms of centuries which has caused me some troubles.

In short, Tartessos is not a stop off point for an invasion of Rome, but if this ridiculousness continues, it might end up being one Seriously though, I'm glad you explained yourself. I was rather annoyed, as it seemed you were just trying to making things hard for me.

Now your dilemma, trust me and stop sending them aid and then I'll explain why I attacked in the first place, or don't trust me. Either way, Tartessos most likely falls, one way I just have to expend more doing it, but I remember who made it that way. The way I hope you choose results in a friendly Ireland.

 

[alex994]

OOC: Explain right now why you're trying to conquer Tartessos of all places I'm all ears. And to make it on topic...

EDIT: So why did Darkening invade the Iberians?

To Sparta, Egypt, League of the Sea Peoples and Byzantium
From Rome

We offer you a 4 turn NAP. (though it probably won't mean much...)

Rome also announces have gone well with Carthage and soon a formal peace will be drafted

 

[Birdjaguar]

To Sparta, Egypt, League of the Sea Peoples and Byzantium
From Rome

We offer you a 4 turn NAP. (though it probably won't mean much...)

To Rome
From Egypt

We accept and it will mean something.

 

[alex994]

European History AP

Origins of the Second Punic War

Students, this week you will be taking notes on the Second Punic War. *smiles by various male students and murmurs* However, AP doesn’t like wars itself but what triggers and causes made war inevitable. *instant frowns on the faces of every student* The conflict actually has its origins long before the First Punic War, but to the natural geography of the territory itself. Isn’t that just exciting? *Teacher makes an attempt to bring life into the classroom while only doing the opposite*

Now, the seeds of the conflict between Carthage and Rome and the repeated clashing of her armies actually had her origins in the shifting of the earth’s tectonic plates. The geography that the Romans and Carthaginians settled on made their clash inevitable. Look at a map of the Mediterranean, and imagine the city-states of Rome and Carthage when they were founded. In time, they both conquered their surrounding area, Italia and North Africa and all other venues of expansion were too difficult to expand in.

This made the clash inevitable and the only obstacle between these two forces was the island of Sicily. Originally colonized, or well attempted to colonize by the Carthaginians, they were repulsed the people of Syracuse who came rule the whole of the island and later conquer Malta, Sardinia, and small colonies in Iberia and southern Gaul. Now, it was during this time that the Oligarchy of Syracuse declared a defensive alliance with Rome, a defensive alliance that would immensely benefit Syracuse.

Syracuse would call upon her defensive alliance with Rome in her war against Tartessos which with Roman military aid annihilated Tartessian forces as the mighty Roman Legions triumphed over the Tartessian forces. Around the same time, Roman forces assaulted Carthage with mixed success failing to take their capitol but succeeding elsewhere. This aggressive war in the eyes of the people of Syracuse was not justified and Syracuse refused to enter the war on the Roman side.

Roman armies being outnumbered still proved extremely resilient against the Carthaginian army. Despite being repulsed at Carthage, they managed to take Cirta and with the naval blockade of Carthage in place, was ready to smash the final blow against Carthage with expected support from her ally Syracuse. Syracuse however declined the offer to join the war against Carthage and remained at peace. Rome, with lack of support from her ally eventually made peace with Carthage for 2000 talents.

Here are some lovely pictures from the First Punic War to spice things up:

Ah yes, back to Syracuse. This would come to bite Syracuse in the back when Carthage after a short period of peace invaded Syracuse with a large army taking half of Sicily while shattering her fleet as her armies marched inland. Rome promptly declared war on Carthage in honor of her alliance, though the Romans were hardly the most humble people and rubbed it in the faces of their allies.

As Roman armies and fleets amassed in preparation for war to aid Syracuse, diplomats between the two sides did their best to reach a peace for the citizens of Rome feared the Northern Horde that had swept Iberia and Tartessos and believed that Carthage was working with them. This was of course dismissed as rumors by present day historians, but of course you never know. *bell rings and students rush out of the class room*

Wait! Come back! I’m not done yet! Gahh, class dismissed.

 

[~Darkening~]

Jeez. And you assume I'm to dumb to follow the ebbs and flows? Alex you fund the enemies that we're currently at war with, and you wonder why I make my move first? Stop being so paranoid- Rome is not on my hit list. My plans have nothing to do with you. And quite shockingly, LB has no clue either what I'm attempting to pull off. Just sit back and watch the ride.

 

[LittleBoots]

OOC:

Despite the fact that this may prove unwise, I'll explain why I attacked them in the first place.

If we look back a couple updates, we will see that Eirehann had a long stretch of coastline colonised along the west cost of Iberia spreading down towards the straits. I was just continuing the coastal conquest until Tartessos got in the way. Of course, leaving the other colonies lightly defended for one turn apparently equals complete destruction, so it looks slightly mad now.

To be frank, an invasion of Rome by Ireland is neither practical nor explainable in character. Tartessos is not a stopping off point on an invasion to Rome, that would require ridiculous and out of character forethought. I am expanding in Iberia because its the nearest place thats not Gaul.

Regardless, if you would stop sending Tartessos aid, that would be very nice and then I could finish them off and start recolonizing the coast of Iberia. As for the attack on Iberia, I didn't attack them. However, if I was planning on taking over Iberia, I wouldn't be averse to their destruction. Seriously, if we were spoiling for a fight, Prussia is much closer, falling apart, and has raided Darkening before. Attacking you now would only be because you've been propping up our enemies.

I could ask you some questions on your behaviour too, as you went from fighting Tartessos to being their ally in one turn, despite supposedly knowing nothing about us. I propose we stop wasting resources on Tartessos and maybe start encouraging a revival in western med. trade. I'm not a threat, all the way from Ireland. Even if I did have evil intentions, I wouldn't be able to sustain an invasion, particularly with Jal's modding style.

EDIT: Darkening, you might be scaring me there. What's that supposed to mean?

 

[alex994]

OOC: Considering the reasons Tartessos got invaded, nothing more then on a whim when Roman and Syracusian armies marched upon it... And as BRITTANIA AND EIRE of all nations decided to colonize and conquer Iberia of all places as opposed to Gaul I'm sorry if my paranoia is excessive, it just makes sense

 

[The Farow]

OCC: I sort of wondered why you went after Iberia as well... I thought you guys on mass would be moving into Gaul to colonize it.

 

[LittleBoots]

OOC: Considering the reasons Tartessos got invaded, nothing more then on a whim when Roman and Syracusian armies marched upon it... And as BRITTANIA AND EIRE of all nations decided to colonize and conquer Iberia of all places as opposed to Gaul I'm sorry if my paranoia is excessive, it just makes sense

Maybe we had plans or agreed upon a separation? If we both went for Gaul, that would create conflict. On the contrary, you'll notice I ceded my territory in Gaul for his in Iberia because I don't have to go around Britannia to get there, thereby lessening a conflict of interest between us. Also, the Iberians, if you'll remember (the Maar, I believe) funded pirates against us and we found out so we punished them, which led to the decision to begin colonisation. I can understand why you'd be freaked out, but its honestly not something you should worry about.

 

[alex994]

OOC: So why is Brittania still invading Iberia while his colonization efforts in Gaul has stopped?

 

[LittleBoots]

Again, I am not Britannia and as Darkening has said, he's doing something I have not been informed of. I have no idea whats going on with that. Its a good question though, but I still doubt any of us have intentions on Rome.

 

[~Darkening~]

Gah. Read the other thread LB- I won't strike before you do. My plan is my plan- I'm sure you have your own.

Anyways, I'm abadoning the Iberian lands after I raze it- not my domain. Most to secure my southern port (not the chief reason) and to assist LB as I said. I have no plans for Rome- it was only LB's request that got me involved in Tartessos.

As soon as I'm done with Iberian I will begin again with Gaul- make sure your ally doesn't go to far alex....

 

[Swissempire]

Eden Reborn​

Paradise Found, and Paradise Lost. But once something is lost you always look for it.

Erzan and a couple of his friends had been outside playing on a raft they built when the Sumerians attacked. They watched their paradise burn. They paddle back in under the cover of night and walked among the bodies ever so quietly. The snuck into the Temple and took the Book of Eden.

And as quickly as they snuck in, they snuck out. They got on their make shift raft, these 12 year olds, and sailed off.

The Legacy of Paradise was left in the hands of mere boys. They were responible for an entire culture before their balls dropped. And so they stole away in to Sumeria proper. And they lived day to day. They swore they would have revenge, and found a new Eden.

And so they grew older and in secret preached. And they gained a following. Those who dreamt of a better life, and those who dreamt of a world with no Sumeria. Peasents and Rich alike joined their religion.

They blended with soceity, a secret underground. They look like Sumerians, talked like Sumerians, ate like Sumerians. But they were the Edenites.

Paradise Lost, Paradise Remade. But between those two times, Chaos erupts.

The fires of Eden are gone, but the fires from Eden will bring Sumeria to its knees.

 

[LittleBoots]

I just saw it, and I was mainly kidding, I'm not really expecting an attack from you. Then again, I have yet to betray some in an NES, am reluctant to do so, and as such fail to always consider when I could be being betrayed myself. Not that that's a big secret.

 

[~Darkening~]

Well, you have turned that island into a fortress for some reason.......

 

[LittleBoots]

I said I have a hard time deciding if someone is about to betray me, not a hard time preparing in case someone does Besides, that fortress of an island is just that much less appetizing than, say, unorganized and unfortified Gaul. Personally, I think those fortifications help our alliance

EDIT: Swiss, isn't this one of those things you keep quiet until you emerge at the opportune moment? I think you might have a problem with grandstanding your rebellions

 

[jalapeno_dude]

@Swissempire: you have a lot of work to do to convince me of the feasability of that nation.