Jesus- Jew???

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Jesus Christ! He's pretty famous a lot of people like him, but what was he, religously speaking? I always have assumed he was Jewish, being raised it and all, but at the same time, he believed in himself, and isn't that what makes a Christian? Believing in Jesus, and accepting him? If he fully believed in himself, then would he not be a Christian, thus making him not a Jew? This question got better than you thought it would, huh?
And for the sake of argument, lets assume he existed.
 
I think he was a Jew initially but after he did his thing down here on Earth, people started calling it Christianity. So the basics of Christianity were around during Jesus but they didn't call it Christianity at the time I think.
 
I would say Jesus was of his own faith, not of a Jewish one. Undoubtedly he spoke of Jewish teachings, but to me it seems only to find common ground with his audience. I don't think Jesus was a religiously a Jew, but he doubtlessly presented himself as some what influenced by Judaism to avoid being labeled as a pagan Greek philosopher or something of the sort.
 
A necessary requirement for one to be a Jew is to believe in the monotheistic singular god YHWH; there is absolutely no idolatry allowed. Christian copouts of the trinity aside, this is rejected in Judaism.

So that really depends on if he actually considered himself God or not. And from there, it follows through kulade.
 
Seeing as he was the prophet whom preceded Mohammed I think that would make him a muslim.
 
wiki said:
Most scholars in the fields of history and biblical studies agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew, was regarded as a teacher and healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified in Jerusalem on orders of the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate under the accusation of sedition against the Roman Empire.
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References: Raymond E. Brown, The Death of the Messiah: From Gethsemane to the Grave (New York: Doubleday, Anchor Bible Reference Library 1994), p. 964; D. A. Carson, et al., p. 50–56; Shaye J.D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah, Westminster Press, 1987, p. 78, 93, 105, 108; John Dominic Crossan, The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant, HarperCollins, 1991, p. xi – xiii; Michael Grant, p. 34–35, 78, 166, 200; Paula Fredriksen, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews, Alfred B. Knopf, 1999, p. 6–7, 105–110, 232–234, 266; John P. Meier, vol. 1:68, 146, 199, 278, 386, 2:726; E.P. Sanders, pp. 12–13; Geza Vermes, Jesus the Jew (Philadelphia: Fortress Press 1973), p. 37.; Paul L. Maier, In the Fullness of Time, Kregel, 1991, pp. 1, 99, 121, 171; N. T. Wright, The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions, HarperCollins, 1998, pp. 32, 83, 100–102, 222; Ben Witherington III, pp. 12–20.
 
Kabbalah a sort of jew spiritualism preaches that Jesus was a heritic for his teachings.
 
MobBoss said:
Err. He didnt found his own faith. That was pretty much Constantine, the roman emperor.
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Constantine, however, didn't actually change the tenants of the existing Christian faith. If anyone founded Christianity who was not Jesus, it was Paul.
 
Jesus would call himself a Jew (his affirmation of the Torah in many of his teachings), and wanted/s people to follow his brand of Judaism that acknowledged his as the prophesied Messiah. Christianity only came into existence as a combination of Jewish spiritualism and Roman paganism, and is by and large still a pagan religion - albeit less so due to the influence of the reformation and now "Emergent Church" types who try to divorce Christianity of it's pagan roots.

As a Christian, I have somewhat mixed feelings about it all. Rome diluted Christ's message and corrupted a lot, true... but Christianity being adopted as the official religion of the Roman empire caused it to be spread over the entire world. If that hadn't happened, most people would've never even heard of Jesus. (assuming the message didn't get out some other way)

FWIW, there are traditional practicing Jews who accept Jesus as the Messiah, usually branded "Messianic Jews." I know a family of them. Honestly, they probably follow the purest and most true to form variant of the religion in existence.
 
Jesus would call himself a Jew (his affirmation of the Torah in many of his teachings), and wanted/s people to follow his brand of Judaism that acknowledged his as the prophesied Messiah. Christianity only came into existence as a combination of Jewish spiritualism and Roman paganism, and is by and large still a pagan religion - albeit less so due to the influence of the reformation and now "Emergent Church" types who try to divorce Christianity of it's pagan roots.
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The synchronism of Judaism and Hellenism, is precisely why Christianity is such a good religion.

FWIW, there are traditional practicing Jews who accept Jesus as the Messiah, usually branded "Messianic Jews." I know a family of them. Honestly, they probably follow the purest and most true to form variant of the religion in existence.
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Perhaps, but they are also the most hated by Jews themselves.
 
He was a Branch Davidian
 
Christianity was just a sect of christianity at the time.
 
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