KRYS01 - PTW 1.21f - Deity, Americans
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Preturn: Seattle is our highest shield producing city at 17SPT. This will increase to 19SPT next turn (when the gold mountain is mined). I switch from a Musketeer to a Palace prebuild (for a Factory).
Look at the trading situation. The Romans have an excess source of coal. The Ottomans are the only civ with Industrialisation one of the only techs we need at this stage.
Rush a temple in Samarra, Los Angeles and Kansas City. It costs a little over 450G but theres an unclaimed source of coal near by. Im hoping well be able to claim it for ourselves plus the extra culture will come in handy anyway.
IT: Gah. Greece and Rome sign a peace treaty. Shame
460AD: Not much. MM Seattle so its producing 21SPT and send several workers to hook the coal up.
Sell WM around for 66G and everyone elses WM. The Ottomans still have a monopoly on Industrialisation
I switch several cities to Cathedrals for Palace prebuilds
IT: More Greek/French fighting
470AD: Miami: Marketplace to Bank
Osman will trade us Industrialisation for 335GPT and 1435G. Pah! No thanks
IT: More fighting. The Egyptians start Shakespeares Theatre
480AD: Send several workers towards Seattle for when our coal comes online.
Egypt now has industrialisation too they want 90GPT for it and all our treasury. France, Greece China and Rome arent producing any GPT so I dont bother trading just yet.
I renew our horses deal with Caeser for 147G and his WM. Not much I know but its better than another civ getting his money.
IT: More fighting
Egyptians start Univeral Suffrage
Ottomans and French start Shakespeares Theatre
490AD: Denver: Bank to Cathedral prebuild
Our coal gets hooked up. Railroad construction begins
France now has Industrialisation. We can get it for all of our treasury (2273G) plus 15GPT. I decide to wait as we might as well try to get t at a cheaper price. We have nothing to gain from getting it this turn.
IT: Our Gems deal with Greece expires. Then our Spices deal expires. They dont want to renew either, and only have 7G to offer when I offer them a deal. Oh well
France and Greek sign a peace treaty.
The French start the Universal Suffrage
500AD: Not much. We can now get Industrialisation for 2175G, Spices and our WM. But I hold off trading for now none of our cities can build factories just yet, so hopefully another AI civ will get Industrialisation in the next few turns.
IT: France and China sign a peace treaty. Gah the world is at peace. A good thing for the AI, a bad thing for us.
We renew our ROP with Rome for 32G
Romans and Greeks start Shakespeares Theatre
510AD: Buffalo: Aqueduct to Marketplace
I take the plunge and buy Industrialisation even though it is expensive. We should have enough moolah to rush a Factory in Seattle. It costs us 2175G, Spices and our WM (from the French- who offered us the best deal).
Trade Industrialisation with Greece for Medicine, 73G and 13GPT
Trade Medicine with the Chinese for Free Artistry and their WM
Sell Gems to the Greeks for 11GPT
We are now at tech parity with the Egyptians, Greeks and French (other than Nationalism). Osman is up The Corporation on everyone. Were up Industrialisation on the Chinese and Romans
Hurry Seattles factory for 356G
IT: Greeks start Universal Suffrage
Chinese start Shakespeares Theatre
520AD: Seattle: Factory to Coal Plant
IT: Renew our ROP with Greece. We receive 16G and their WM
Renegotiate our Gems deal with Ottomans. We now receive 33GPT (up from 21GPT)
Our Spices deal with the Egyptians ends. They dont have anything to offer us back in return.
530AD: Rush a Coal Plant in Seattle for 496G
The Romans and Chinese now have Industrialisation
IT: Renegotiate our ROP with the Ottomans. We receive 17G.
Edrine completes the Universal Suffrage and Bursa completes Shakespeares Theatre
That kills the cascade for the TOE
540AD: Seattle: Coal Plant to Palace (TOE prebuild). Seattles now producing 60SPT
Greece now has Nationalism
IT: nadda
550AD: Not much. Continue railroading and buy a French worker for 82G.
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Ok, were in a very good situation imo. Were earning over 300GPT, have a fairly large treasury as it is and our railroad network is starting to be built. The AI still needs to research electricity and Scientific Method before it can even start the TOE. By that stage our prebuild should be nearly done. Soon well have several factories up and running, the Hoover Dam can be built and we can go
the Romans (and the rest of the world 
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The Upload page isn't working for some reason, but I'll try again in a few hours time. If it still isn't working by tomorrow I'll just email the save to the next player (Yndy I presume?).
Preturn: Seattle is our highest shield producing city at 17SPT. This will increase to 19SPT next turn (when the gold mountain is mined). I switch from a Musketeer to a Palace prebuild (for a Factory).
Look at the trading situation. The Romans have an excess source of coal. The Ottomans are the only civ with Industrialisation one of the only techs we need at this stage.
Rush a temple in Samarra, Los Angeles and Kansas City. It costs a little over 450G but theres an unclaimed source of coal near by. Im hoping well be able to claim it for ourselves plus the extra culture will come in handy anyway.
IT: Gah. Greece and Rome sign a peace treaty. Shame
460AD: Not much. MM Seattle so its producing 21SPT and send several workers to hook the coal up.
Sell WM around for 66G and everyone elses WM. The Ottomans still have a monopoly on Industrialisation
I switch several cities to Cathedrals for Palace prebuilds
IT: More Greek/French fighting
470AD: Miami: Marketplace to Bank
Osman will trade us Industrialisation for 335GPT and 1435G. Pah! No thanks
IT: More fighting. The Egyptians start Shakespeares Theatre
480AD: Send several workers towards Seattle for when our coal comes online.
Egypt now has industrialisation too they want 90GPT for it and all our treasury. France, Greece China and Rome arent producing any GPT so I dont bother trading just yet.
I renew our horses deal with Caeser for 147G and his WM. Not much I know but its better than another civ getting his money.
IT: More fighting
Egyptians start Univeral Suffrage
Ottomans and French start Shakespeares Theatre
490AD: Denver: Bank to Cathedral prebuild
Our coal gets hooked up. Railroad construction begins
France now has Industrialisation. We can get it for all of our treasury (2273G) plus 15GPT. I decide to wait as we might as well try to get t at a cheaper price. We have nothing to gain from getting it this turn.
IT: Our Gems deal with Greece expires. Then our Spices deal expires. They dont want to renew either, and only have 7G to offer when I offer them a deal. Oh well
France and Greek sign a peace treaty.
The French start the Universal Suffrage
500AD: Not much. We can now get Industrialisation for 2175G, Spices and our WM. But I hold off trading for now none of our cities can build factories just yet, so hopefully another AI civ will get Industrialisation in the next few turns.
IT: France and China sign a peace treaty. Gah the world is at peace. A good thing for the AI, a bad thing for us.
We renew our ROP with Rome for 32G
Romans and Greeks start Shakespeares Theatre
510AD: Buffalo: Aqueduct to Marketplace
I take the plunge and buy Industrialisation even though it is expensive. We should have enough moolah to rush a Factory in Seattle. It costs us 2175G, Spices and our WM (from the French- who offered us the best deal).
Trade Industrialisation with Greece for Medicine, 73G and 13GPT
Trade Medicine with the Chinese for Free Artistry and their WM
Sell Gems to the Greeks for 11GPT
We are now at tech parity with the Egyptians, Greeks and French (other than Nationalism). Osman is up The Corporation on everyone. Were up Industrialisation on the Chinese and Romans
Hurry Seattles factory for 356G
IT: Greeks start Universal Suffrage
Chinese start Shakespeares Theatre
520AD: Seattle: Factory to Coal Plant
IT: Renew our ROP with Greece. We receive 16G and their WM
Renegotiate our Gems deal with Ottomans. We now receive 33GPT (up from 21GPT)
Our Spices deal with the Egyptians ends. They dont have anything to offer us back in return.
530AD: Rush a Coal Plant in Seattle for 496G
The Romans and Chinese now have Industrialisation
IT: Renegotiate our ROP with the Ottomans. We receive 17G.
Edrine completes the Universal Suffrage and Bursa completes Shakespeares Theatre
That kills the cascade for the TOE 540AD: Seattle: Coal Plant to Palace (TOE prebuild). Seattles now producing 60SPT
Greece now has Nationalism
IT: nadda
550AD: Not much. Continue railroading and buy a French worker for 82G.
-----------------end report
Ok, were in a very good situation imo. Were earning over 300GPT, have a fairly large treasury as it is and our railroad network is starting to be built. The AI still needs to research electricity and Scientific Method before it can even start the TOE. By that stage our prebuild should be nearly done. Soon well have several factories up and running, the Hoover Dam can be built and we can go
the Romans (and the rest of the world )The Upload page isn't working for some reason, but I'll try again in a few hours time. If it still isn't working by tomorrow I'll just email the save to the next player (Yndy I presume?).
kryszcztov
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Very good, Doshin ! I believe you when you say we are in good position. I want to win this game !
So you've managed to have a chance at the ToE through the peaceful way (factory + coal plant in the best city), I think that was a smart move, even though I would have liked to kick some Roman butts, but with the world being at peace now, who knows what would have happened to us then...
I should definitely try this tactic, I don't use prebuilds soon enough, and coal plants seem like a waste, but in one city for this purpose, it's surely a winning move !! 
The roster :
kryszcztov
Rik Meleet (on vacation)
samildanach (up now)
Doshin (just played)
Yndy
As you see, the roster is a bit
now, but I'll handle it. samildanach is up now, and I give him 24 hours to show up. Otherwise, Yndy, consider you're up. Rik has a turn to play when he gets back... And BTW I'm going on vacation on August 3rd, for 1 or 2 weeks (dunno, really), so the game might stop then. After all, I want to see my baby running... We could finish it by the end of the summer.
I believe you when you say we are in good position. I want to win this game ! So you've managed to have a chance at the ToE through the peaceful way (factory + coal plant in the best city), I think that was a smart move, even though I would have liked to kick some Roman butts, but with the world being at peace now, who knows what would have happened to us then...
I should definitely try this tactic, I don't use prebuilds soon enough, and coal plants seem like a waste, but in one city for this purpose, it's surely a winning move !! The roster :
kryszcztov
Rik Meleet (on vacation)
samildanach (up now)
Doshin (just played)
Yndy
As you see, the roster is a bit
now, but I'll handle it. samildanach is up now, and I give him 24 hours to show up. Otherwise, Yndy, consider you're up. Rik has a turn to play when he gets back... And BTW I'm going on vacation on August 3rd, for 1 or 2 weeks (dunno, really), so the game might stop then. After all, I want to see my baby running... We could finish it by the end of the summer.
samildanach
Necrophile
Sorry for letting things slide guys- i have been working on my Beserk strat for the GoTM which has been taking up my civ time. I will pick it up after Yndy if thats O.K. Nice turns Doshin
kryszcztov
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You offended me a lot !! Kidding...
Yndy, you should check your post and the one(s) above it when you actually post a message, just in case. We posted at the same time, I think I was already seeing your post when I clicked "submit reply" !! OK, you (Yndy) can play, to avoid confusion. Then samildanach, then I'll see what we'll do.
Kidding...Yndy, you should check your post and the one(s) above it when you actually post a message, just in case. We posted at the same time, I think I was already seeing your post when I clicked "submit reply" !! OK, you (Yndy) can play, to avoid confusion. Then samildanach, then I'll see what we'll do.
Pre-turn: Chnage Miami to Factory. New Orleans. Change Bank to Temple. Change cincinnati to Galleon. Change Kansas City to Courthouse. Change LA, Cleveland, San Diego, Boston, Samarra to Worker.
Turn 1 560AD: Bad news as Dallas pledges allegiance to Osman right after I rushed the Courthouse. Luckily no trade deal was broken but we're now two spices short and out of coal. Buy Wine and Ivory for 31gpt each, to avoid costly increases in lux rate.
Turn 2 570AD: Richmond: Temple -> Worker. Egyptian worker builds Coal colony near Dallas. It will serve its purpose until Dallas builds temple and expands.
Turn 3 580AD: New Orleans: Temple -> Bank. build second Coal Colony between Samarra and Babylon. Buy a settler in Samarra and another one in San Diego.
Turn 4 590AD: Detroit: Marketplace -> Bank. Samarra and San Diego: Settler -> Worker. Dyes deal with China renewed for 32gpt. Albuquerque founded -> Temple; Palace build in Seattle slowed by two turns. We'll probably have that ready before Sci Method.
Turn 5 600AD: Portland founded and we now have a coal resource within our territory. The Palace also costs more and now due in 16 turns in Seattle.
IT: Ottomand sign MPP with Egypt.
Turn 6 610AD: Washington: Factory -> Library; Atlanta: Factory -> Library; I tested our research at 100% and we could get a new tech in 14 turns. So I am continuing our peaceful development and build some libraries. Hurry temples in Albuquerque and Portland for about 500g. Electricity is now available.
Turn 7 620AD: Albuquerque, Portland: Temple -> Worker; Denver: Factory -> Library; St. Louis: Marketplace -> Factory. The Ottomans took our Coal Colony nead Dallas.
IT: 10 Ottoman Riflemen enter our territory going towards Dallas and Bolu.
Turn 8 630AD: Nothing
IT: China declared war to Romans. Ottomans declared war on us !!! Philadelphia is razed !!! Detroit is razed !!! Richmond captured. New York is captured. Chicago is captured. San Francisco is captured.
Turn 9 640AD: Washington: Library -> Musketman; Denver: Library -> Musketman; altanta: Library -> Musketman; Miami: Factory -> Musketman; Cincinnati: Galleon -> Musketman. We are already undder level one war weariness. Our income has droped from 402gpt to 219gpt. Trade electricity for 199gpt from egypt. Give Electricity to France for The Corporation, Silks, Alliance vs Ottomans and 3gpt. Give Electricity and the Corporation to Greece for Nationalism, MPP and 4gpt. Give Electricity and 10gpt to Rome for Spices and Alliance vs. Ottomans. Give Electricity to China for Alliance vs. Ottomans and 4g.
Freeing San Francisco (from Roman territory). Egypt declares war (and cancels the gpt deal). Elite MedInf defeats Elite Siphai. Elite MedInf defeats Vet Siphai and frees San Francisco. Draft all cities above 6 for 11 Riflemen. Change most cities to Cavalry.
Upgrade 5 Spearmen for 5 x 120g, 2 Pikemen for 2 x 100g, 3 Musketmen for 3 x 40g, 2 Warriors for 2 x 60g, 1 Knight for 20g.
Attack units in our territory. MedInf attacks Spear and wins. Medinf attacks Siphai which retreats. MedInf attacks Archer, wins and promotes to Vet. MedInf attacks Siphai and wins. MedInf Attacks Siphai and wins. MedInf captures two workers. MedInf captures two other workers. MedInf captures two other workers. Hurry 6 Cavalries for 288+288+288+300+312+288. We end up with 49g. I hesitate to press end-turn.
IT: Egypt declares war to Romans; Rome conquers Richmond; Greece declares war to Ottomans. Ottomans re-take Richmond. Egypt declares war to France. France takes Richmond.
We lose 5 MedInfs. We lose Cincinnati (Ottomans killed some 5 French units in the proccess). Our only Ship is sunk. RE-sign ROP with France.
Turn 10 650AD: Buffalo: Marketplace -> Barracks. A bunch of Cavlaries get built. Change cities to worker. We get level two war weariness.
Freeing of Dallas: Cavalry retreats to Rifleman; Cavalry wins and frees Dallas.
Taking of Bolu: Cavalry dies to Rifleman; Cavalry dies to Rifleman; Cavalry kills Rifle and promotes; Cavalry kills Rifle, promotes and takes Bolu.
MedInf attacks Siphai which runs away. MedInd attacks Sword and wins. Reg Cavalry attacks redlined Siphai and dies
. Upgrade Pike for 100g. Upgrade Warrior for 60g. Upgrade Musket for 40g.
End of turn. We will probably survive this onslaught but I'm not sure about a diplomatic victory anymore. I don't think we broke any deal so far but we will need to keep the alliances despite the ever increasing war weariness. We should be able to get back Chicago and NY and to found back a city or two. That's all for now, I'm waiting for your thoughts.
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Turn 1 560AD: Bad news as Dallas pledges allegiance to Osman right after I rushed the Courthouse. Luckily no trade deal was broken but we're now two spices short and out of coal. Buy Wine and Ivory for 31gpt each, to avoid costly increases in lux rate.
Turn 2 570AD: Richmond: Temple -> Worker. Egyptian worker builds Coal colony near Dallas. It will serve its purpose until Dallas builds temple and expands.
Turn 3 580AD: New Orleans: Temple -> Bank. build second Coal Colony between Samarra and Babylon. Buy a settler in Samarra and another one in San Diego.
Turn 4 590AD: Detroit: Marketplace -> Bank. Samarra and San Diego: Settler -> Worker. Dyes deal with China renewed for 32gpt. Albuquerque founded -> Temple; Palace build in Seattle slowed by two turns. We'll probably have that ready before Sci Method.
Turn 5 600AD: Portland founded and we now have a coal resource within our territory. The Palace also costs more and now due in 16 turns in Seattle.
IT: Ottomand sign MPP with Egypt.
Turn 6 610AD: Washington: Factory -> Library; Atlanta: Factory -> Library; I tested our research at 100% and we could get a new tech in 14 turns. So I am continuing our peaceful development and build some libraries. Hurry temples in Albuquerque and Portland for about 500g. Electricity is now available.
Turn 7 620AD: Albuquerque, Portland: Temple -> Worker; Denver: Factory -> Library; St. Louis: Marketplace -> Factory. The Ottomans took our Coal Colony nead Dallas.
IT: 10 Ottoman Riflemen enter our territory going towards Dallas and Bolu.
Turn 8 630AD: Nothing
IT: China declared war to Romans. Ottomans declared war on us !!! Philadelphia is razed !!! Detroit is razed !!! Richmond captured. New York is captured. Chicago is captured. San Francisco is captured.
Turn 9 640AD: Washington: Library -> Musketman; Denver: Library -> Musketman; altanta: Library -> Musketman; Miami: Factory -> Musketman; Cincinnati: Galleon -> Musketman. We are already undder level one war weariness. Our income has droped from 402gpt to 219gpt. Trade electricity for 199gpt from egypt. Give Electricity to France for The Corporation, Silks, Alliance vs Ottomans and 3gpt. Give Electricity and the Corporation to Greece for Nationalism, MPP and 4gpt. Give Electricity and 10gpt to Rome for Spices and Alliance vs. Ottomans. Give Electricity to China for Alliance vs. Ottomans and 4g.
Freeing San Francisco (from Roman territory). Egypt declares war (and cancels the gpt deal
). Elite MedInf defeats Elite Siphai. Elite MedInf defeats Vet Siphai and frees San Francisco. Draft all cities above 6 for 11 Riflemen. Change most cities to Cavalry.Upgrade 5 Spearmen for 5 x 120g, 2 Pikemen for 2 x 100g, 3 Musketmen for 3 x 40g, 2 Warriors for 2 x 60g, 1 Knight for 20g.
Attack units in our territory. MedInf attacks Spear and wins. Medinf attacks Siphai which retreats. MedInf attacks Archer, wins and promotes to Vet. MedInf attacks Siphai and wins. MedInf Attacks Siphai and wins. MedInf captures two workers. MedInf captures two other workers. MedInf captures two other workers. Hurry 6 Cavalries for 288+288+288+300+312+288. We end up with 49g. I hesitate to press end-turn.
IT: Egypt declares war to Romans; Rome conquers Richmond; Greece declares war to Ottomans. Ottomans re-take Richmond. Egypt declares war to France. France takes Richmond.
We lose 5 MedInfs. We lose Cincinnati (Ottomans killed some 5 French units in the proccess). Our only Ship is sunk. RE-sign ROP with France.
Turn 10 650AD: Buffalo: Marketplace -> Barracks. A bunch of Cavlaries get built. Change cities to worker. We get level two war weariness.
Freeing of Dallas: Cavalry retreats to Rifleman; Cavalry wins and frees Dallas.
Taking of Bolu: Cavalry dies to Rifleman; Cavalry dies to Rifleman; Cavalry kills Rifle and promotes; Cavalry kills Rifle, promotes and takes Bolu.
MedInf attacks Siphai which runs away. MedInd attacks Sword and wins. Reg Cavalry attacks redlined Siphai and dies
. Upgrade Pike for 100g. Upgrade Warrior for 60g. Upgrade Musket for 40g.End of turn. We will probably survive this onslaught but I'm not sure about a diplomatic victory anymore. I don't think we broke any deal so far but we will need to keep the alliances despite the ever increasing war weariness. We should be able to get back Chicago and NY and to found back a city or two. That's all for now, I'm waiting for your thoughts.
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kryszcztov
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WTH !!! 
Well, we had little culture and little military... This is Deity !
OK, we're gonna win this game, can you hear me ??!! We're gonna crush the AI so hard that he will never betray us in any future game !!
We need to survive until the 20-turn alliances are gone. Then sue for peace immediately !! The Ottomans attack with deadly sipahies, may be in their Golden Age (don't know if they already had it through wonders), so we can't deal with them now !! Each city we'll take back or capture must be defended at all cost before being sure to get to the next target. We want to do like Americans (eh
) did in the Pacific during WWII : take cities (islands) one after the other and secure them first. No suicide blietzkrieg !! Attack any sipahi in range, with defense 3 and attack 8, guess where our odds are.
Also, we could try to capture the Egyptian city to our north. Why on Earth did the Egyptians accept this deal ? They gave us Electricity before declaring war on us, are they stupid? Or... could this be an exploit ? Dumb, dumb AI...
The roster :
kryszcztov (already played his turn)
Rik Meleet (skipped)
samildanach (up now)
Doshin (already played his turn)
Yndy (just played)
samildanach is up now. I'm leaving tomorrow. If you can play by tomorrow, then do it. Otherwise we'll see later. The game is now freezed in a great suspense !!
After samildanach's turn, Rik Meleet will be up when he comes back, to play the turn he missed. I plan to come back in the middle of August (maybe before), and so has Rik. So the game could continue then.
samildanach, I make you Great general of the US army ! Kick some Turkey butts and don't forget to nuke Osman !!
Well, we had little culture and little military... This is Deity !OK, we're gonna win this game, can you hear me ??!! We're gonna crush the AI so hard that he will never betray us in any future game !!
We need to survive until the 20-turn alliances are gone. Then sue for peace immediately !! The Ottomans attack with deadly sipahies, may be in their Golden Age (don't know if they already had it through wonders), so we can't deal with them now !! Each city we'll take back or capture must be defended at all cost before being sure to get to the next target. We want to do like Americans (eh
) did in the Pacific during WWII : take cities (islands) one after the other and secure them first. No suicide blietzkrieg !! Attack any sipahi in range, with defense 3 and attack 8, guess where our odds are.Also, we could try to capture the Egyptian city to our north. Why on Earth did the Egyptians accept this deal ? They gave us Electricity before declaring war on us, are they stupid? Or... could this be an exploit ? Dumb, dumb AI...
The roster :
kryszcztov (already played his turn)
Rik Meleet (skipped)
samildanach (up now)
Doshin (already played his turn)
Yndy (just played)
samildanach is up now. I'm leaving tomorrow. If you can play by tomorrow, then do it. Otherwise we'll see later. The game is now freezed in a great suspense !!
After samildanach's turn, Rik Meleet will be up when he comes back, to play the turn he missed. I plan to come back in the middle of August (maybe before), and so has Rik. So the game could continue then.samildanach, I make you Great general of the US army ! Kick some Turkey butts and don't forget to nuke Osman !!
samildanach
Necrophile
Thank God you were playing these turns Yndy
If I had been playing them our glorious republic would be in ashes. Any idea how well defended our captured cities are? Are the bulk of the riflemen the ottomans sent into our territory camped out in them? What about the Egytian city in the North is that a priority target or do I concentrate on getting our lost cities back and perhaps getting the Egyptian city as part of a peace deal?
Bloody ottomans they'll pay for this!
If I had been playing them our glorious republic would be in ashes. Any idea how well defended our captured cities are? Are the bulk of the riflemen the ottomans sent into our territory camped out in them? What about the Egytian city in the North is that a priority target or do I concentrate on getting our lost cities back and perhaps getting the Egyptian city as part of a peace deal?Bloody ottomans they'll pay for this!
samildanach
Necrophile
I should be able to play in the next few hours. Do you want to play your turns before you leave Krys? If so I can post the save back here early evening and I will post the report later on. If not I will wait until Doshin checks in with his advice.
kryszcztov
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No, take your time to play ! Wait for Doshin's advice if you want. I'll have my turn when I come back because I have too much Civ going on right now until tomorrow (even not enough time !). And Rik will get his turn before we enter a new roster cycle. So your turn will be the last one before 10-15 days. Take your time, do the job. Do not feel the need to bump the thread while I'm away, unless you want to discuss over this game, which could be very interesting. You could discuss what to do in the future to win this game, but also what did we do wrong... don't hesitate to criticize anyone, if done gently, this could help us.
KRYS01 : victory, I can smell it !
Wait for Doshin's advice if you want. I'll have my turn when I come back because I have too much Civ going on right now until tomorrow (even not enough time !). And Rik will get his turn before we enter a new roster cycle. So your turn will be the last one before 10-15 days. Take your time, do the job. Do not feel the need to bump the thread while I'm away, unless you want to discuss over this game, which could be very interesting. You could discuss what to do in the future to win this game, but also what did we do wrong... don't hesitate to criticize anyone, if done gently, this could help us.KRYS01 : victory, I can smell it !
samildanach
Necrophile
Ottomans and Egypt had signed an MPP prior to the sneak atack on us. As soon as we killed one of the ottoman units the Egyptians were going to be forced to declare on us-so I guess it was an exploit but the AI does declare war to get of deals as well so it might be within the spirit of the rules. Although I don't know, I am just glad Yndy realised the opportuinity was there and took it.
Erk.... war 
Bloody Osman. I haven't got time to d/l and look at the file so I won't comment too much... But I second krys's thoughts. Take everything one step at a time... we'll struggle to outproduce the Ottomans so we have to learn to fight more effectively. Play it safe- make sure we have a secure defence before we attack. And always, always attack Siphahi. Don't let them attack us if possible! Also, should we capture any AI cities make sure they're raised. Both the Ottomans and Egyptians have more culture than us.
Well I said we should go to war with the Ottomans yonks back. Looks like we haven't got much choice now Gentlemen, the game is afoot...
Bloody Osman. I haven't got time to d/l and look at the file so I won't comment too much... But I second krys's thoughts. Take everything one step at a time... we'll struggle to outproduce the Ottomans so we have to learn to fight more effectively. Play it safe- make sure we have a secure defence before we attack. And always, always attack Siphahi. Don't let them attack us if possible! Also, should we capture any AI cities make sure they're raised. Both the Ottomans and Egyptians have more culture than us.Well I said we should go to war with the Ottomans yonks back. Looks like we haven't got much choice now
Gentlemen, the game is afoot...
samildanach
Necrophile
660AD Holy ****! Things have really kicked off. The Romans God Bless'em kicked some serious Ottoman ass during this turn-our lands are littered with dead turks.
Regular MI kills Sipahi. Cannons redline rifleman. Elite MI redline sipahi it retreats. Move vet rifleman from Washington to protect elite MI -want to fish for a GL so we can get the Hoover dam quick if we get TOE with our prebuild.
Cavalry picks off redlined rifleman. Rushed barracks in Buffalo for 128g.
China and Rome are at war.
670 AD Reg cavalry from Miami defeats Sipahi but doesnt get promotion. Vet cavalry defeats sipahi. Vet cavalry defeats MM. MM upgraded in buffalo. Elite MI defeats LBW.
680 AD Egypt declares war on Greece. Major Greek cavalry offensive results in the fall of the ottoman city of salonika. Ottomans take it back during their turn. Brought cannons up to Chicago - managed to kill some of our own citizens with the first shot-took a hit point off the rifleman with second-Chicago is now size five . Decide to chance cavalry on taking it. Thats totally **** - lost 2 vet cavs no rollback,to a three point vet rifleman which is now elite. Woo Hoo ! Where the cavs failed an elite MI succeded- Chicago has been liberated!-no GL though. Building walls in Chicago. Rushed cav in Kansas City. for 92g. Traded Gems to French for 126g and 11 gpt.
690 AD New york is down to size 3 - the ottomans have been hard on our citizens. Salonika has been retaken by the Greeks.
700 AD The ottomans just popped a GL in our territory - I think it may be in New York now. I don't want them beating us to the ToE so I am going to try and take NY this turn- besides the Romans just took out one of the veteran defenders in NY. Cav rolls back after reducing top defender to two hit points. Cav kills rifleman. Top defender is now the Sipahi Army that the Ottomans were in the process of building with there GL- but with as yet only one sipahi in it. We smell blood! Cav dies but redlines sipahi army.
The people of New York rejoice as 7th cavalry liberate them- the body of the still living Ottoman Great Leader is strapped to the business end of a cannon and sent home to Momma!
710 AD Ottomans try to retake NY but are repulsed . Houston builds factory -begins library. Elite MI kills sipahi. Walls rushed in NY for 72g. Walls completed in Chicago- begins barracks.
720 AD ****! Both the egyptians and Ottomans are willing to offer peace. The ottomans have Replaceable parts- Hopefully they dont have any rubber or any punitve military operation is doomed to failure. Have moved MI into positon for strike on Egyptian city in the North.
730 AD Chicago attacked by 5 sipahi - knocked us down to our last conscript defender. I'm glad I built those walls. Cav becomes Elite. Cav becomes vet. Destroying the sipahi on our territory has delayed our assault on the Egytian city- hopefully next turn we will get our opportuinity.
740 AD Miami builds colloseum-begins library. China and Egypt sign peace treaty. Cav attacks egyptian city - kills vet rifleman. Four more die as Akkad falls. At the siege of Akkad a hero emerges the Great Leader Washington! He has made his way to the capital to consult with the senate.
I sent a cav to scout atalyan- our worst fears are confirmed the ottomans have infantry.
750 AD Heres a run down of where I see things at the moment - the ottomans may be untouchable right now unless we build some more cannons. How ever the Egyptians do not have RP yet and they are really coming under the cosh in the last two turns. Not only have they lost a city to us , the Romans have retaken Neapolis from them and lost Abydos to the French. I think if some if our cavalry were to make it over to Egypt in the near future-then it could turn very bad for them. The ottomans are resurgent at the moment and are eating Greek cavalry- I have been having to fend of raids of about 6-7 sipahi the past two turns. I havent traded for any techs although we do have the money but I am hoping the next player may be able to score a better deal than whats on offer at the moment. Also the palace in Seattle is just two turns from completion- no one has Scientific Method yet. If the worst comes and no one has gets SM in the near future we could build an army with Washington and use the palace prebuild for the Heroic epic and hope that the expedition to Egypt generates a GL. We must be very careful not to lose any cities with the palace so near to completion or else it will be built as the price drops and there 'll be nothing we can do about it.
Regular MI kills Sipahi. Cannons redline rifleman. Elite MI redline sipahi it retreats. Move vet rifleman from Washington to protect elite MI -want to fish for a GL so we can get the Hoover dam quick if we get TOE with our prebuild.
Cavalry picks off redlined rifleman. Rushed barracks in Buffalo for 128g.
China and Rome are at war.
670 AD Reg cavalry from Miami defeats Sipahi but doesnt get promotion. Vet cavalry defeats sipahi. Vet cavalry defeats MM. MM upgraded in buffalo. Elite MI defeats LBW.
680 AD Egypt declares war on Greece. Major Greek cavalry offensive results in the fall of the ottoman city of salonika. Ottomans take it back during their turn. Brought cannons up to Chicago - managed to kill some of our own citizens with the first shot-took a hit point off the rifleman with second-Chicago is now size five . Decide to chance cavalry on taking it. Thats totally **** - lost 2 vet cavs no rollback,to a three point vet rifleman which is now elite. Woo Hoo ! Where the cavs failed an elite MI succeded- Chicago has been liberated!-no GL though. Building walls in Chicago. Rushed cav in Kansas City. for 92g. Traded Gems to French for 126g and 11 gpt.
690 AD New york is down to size 3 - the ottomans have been hard on our citizens. Salonika has been retaken by the Greeks.
700 AD The ottomans just popped a GL in our territory - I think it may be in New York now. I don't want them beating us to the ToE so I am going to try and take NY this turn- besides the Romans just took out one of the veteran defenders in NY. Cav rolls back after reducing top defender to two hit points. Cav kills rifleman. Top defender is now the Sipahi Army that the Ottomans were in the process of building with there GL- but with as yet only one sipahi in it. We smell blood! Cav dies but redlines sipahi army.
The people of New York rejoice as 7th cavalry liberate them- the body of the still living Ottoman Great Leader is strapped to the business end of a cannon and sent home to Momma!
710 AD Ottomans try to retake NY but are repulsed . Houston builds factory -begins library. Elite MI kills sipahi. Walls rushed in NY for 72g. Walls completed in Chicago- begins barracks.
720 AD ****! Both the egyptians and Ottomans are willing to offer peace. The ottomans have Replaceable parts- Hopefully they dont have any rubber or any punitve military operation is doomed to failure. Have moved MI into positon for strike on Egyptian city in the North.
730 AD Chicago attacked by 5 sipahi - knocked us down to our last conscript defender. I'm glad I built those walls. Cav becomes Elite. Cav becomes vet. Destroying the sipahi on our territory has delayed our assault on the Egytian city- hopefully next turn we will get our opportuinity.
740 AD Miami builds colloseum-begins library. China and Egypt sign peace treaty. Cav attacks egyptian city - kills vet rifleman. Four more die as Akkad falls. At the siege of Akkad a hero emerges the Great Leader Washington! He has made his way to the capital to consult with the senate.
I sent a cav to scout atalyan- our worst fears are confirmed the ottomans have infantry.
750 AD Heres a run down of where I see things at the moment - the ottomans may be untouchable right now unless we build some more cannons. How ever the Egyptians do not have RP yet and they are really coming under the cosh in the last two turns. Not only have they lost a city to us , the Romans have retaken Neapolis from them and lost Abydos to the French. I think if some if our cavalry were to make it over to Egypt in the near future-then it could turn very bad for them. The ottomans are resurgent at the moment and are eating Greek cavalry- I have been having to fend of raids of about 6-7 sipahi the past two turns. I havent traded for any techs although we do have the money but I am hoping the next player may be able to score a better deal than whats on offer at the moment. Also the palace in Seattle is just two turns from completion- no one has Scientific Method yet. If the worst comes and no one has gets SM in the near future we could build an army with Washington and use the palace prebuild for the Heroic epic and hope that the expedition to Egypt generates a GL. We must be very careful not to lose any cities with the palace so near to completion or else it will be built as the price drops and there 'll be nothing we can do about it.
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Excellent ! From what I've read, we're not too bad anymore ! I'm curious to see how we will end this game... We'll have to wait though. I'm leaving on vacation today and will probably come back on August 17th.
Rik Meleet is up now. I hope he'll come back here after his vacation. After Rik's turn, I'll be up. So the game is freezed until then.
Late August will see the Americans become #1 !!
Rik Meleet is up now. I hope he'll come back here after his vacation. After Rik's turn, I'll be up. So the game is freezed until then.
Late August will see the Americans become #1 !!
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