KRYS03 - Deity Sumerians - C3C

[kryszcztov]

OK, this game is on hold until New Year (approximately : around 2 days before or after ).

Try to see if this game can load with the beta patch. If yes, I suggest you patched as soon as possible !! If no, then it's up to you. I won't play any game before this one is finished (and before I see if the beta patch is OK).

 

[gunnerxtr]

i have to say that i have been lurking this game, so yes there is interest from lurkers out there. keep up the good work!

 

[gunnerxtr]

i have to say that i have been lurking this game, so yes there is interest from lurkers out there. keep up the good work!

 

[gunnerxtr]

i have to say that i have been lurking this game, so yes there is interest from lurkers out there. keep up the good work!

 

[gunnerxtr]

i have to say that i have been lurking this game, so yes there is interest from lurkers out there. keep up the good work!

 

[gunnerxtr]

i have to say that i have been lurking this game, so yes there is interest from lurkers out there. keep up the good work!

 

[Greebley]

Note: It is looking like I am going to be away between Christmas, to about the 5th or 6th of January. I may not be able to post immediately after New Years, but I will post when I am back (definitely by the 7th).

 

[kryszcztov]

Hello, I'm back ! Been lurking a lot of what is said about the beta patch and stuff, and I must say I have a headache. 2 years this game has been out, and there are still debates about how the game should work (corruption... FP...), that's too much for me.

So : I'm gonna play my turns soon, still with C3C 1.00. Tell me (Greebley and Kuningas) if you want to continue this game and if you have the time. Then tell me if you want to continue it under 1.00 or 1.12 (the beta patch). My feelings tell me we should not beta patch for this game, because it would end into a nightmare regarding fixes. I won't play any other C3C games in the next weeks (January), at least until another update. I won't beta patch at all before that.

Expect the save in 2 days at most.

 

[Kuningas]

Welcome back. Let's finish this one.

I don't have the patch either. I'm staying at v.1.00.

 

[Greebley]

I think we should finish as well. I am currently on vacation as I mentioned earlier. I will be back home on the 5th or 6th, so I may need a single skip. I have internet access, but not the game.

 

[Kuningas]

 

[Kuningas]

Can we expect the save soon?

 

[kryszcztov]

I'm terribly sorry, folks. I have almost lost taste in playing this game, and more generally in playing Civ. Of course I'm pretty sure it's just temporary, but right now, because of Civ bugs and Internet problems, I don't feel like continuing playing. Firaxis's attitude doesn't help it of course, the beta patch doesn't appeal me either (as of now).

I know I will trash my SG rep but the heart isn't here anymore. Maybe both of you could finish the game ? I'd be happy to hear from you that the game is won someday, but don't feel you have to.

Sincere apologize.
krys

(Don't hope to freeze the game anymore for my hypothetical return, I have almost passed the point where the game was left untouched for too long.)

 

[Kuningas]

@kryszcztov. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you recover interest to Civ someday.

I'll play next 10 turns. It's near month from last save. Either with Greebley's help or alone I'll continue posting until it's finished.

Lurkers are welcome to join. Don't hesitate to post.

 

[Kuningas]

Sargon the King of the Akkad. He is the legacy of second dynasty of Sumerians. He was born in the choke point of two rivers Eufrat and Tigris. About 800 years ago. He started the war to unite Mesopotamia. Here is his story of last 100 years.
Sargon: "I'm getting old. I have conquered much land in past years. Many says, Sumerians are world's first imperium. I want to believe them. and I do after I have conquer rest of Lugalzaggis and Syria. Let me see the map." Advisor: "here, it's sir." Sargon: "Only few cities left and I have Mesopotamia. Those Gutilians are barbarians. Claims to be Hittites. For future we need strong defence against them."

Sargon: "My fellow friend Krys have past away. He is a hero who sacrifised his life to safe ours. Heroic Epic must be built for his memory."
0-650AD: Ur ->Heroic Epic,

IT Lost: vet enkidu vs vet longbow, vet enkidu vs longbow. Byzantines are building Smith's Trading Company.
Sargon: "Blasphemy, Trading Company what's that? World is flat and there is only one continent."
1-660AD: Susa Worker ->Catapult, Marad Sword->Enkidu, Braga Enkidu->Enkidu, Kutha Worker->Enkidu, Anshan Enkidu ->Catapult.
Sargon: "My god, don't let Syrians to pillage our lands."
Rotterdam win: sword elite vs vet spear.
Utrecht mountain river win: elite sword vs vet longbow.
Holwerd: vet sword vs reg spear. Holwerd captured ->worker
win: vet sword vs vet spear.
win: vet sword vs vet longbow Eindhoven, vet sword vs reg longbow

IT lost: reg longbow vs vet sword
2-670AD: Lagos catapult ->sword, Marad Enkidu->sword, Rotterdam Crusader
lost: elite sword vs vet longbow Eindhoven

Sargon: "Abandon Holwerd. I don't want it to fall in enemy's hands. First Crusader, good let him announce God's word by swords."
Holwerd abandoded.

win: reg longbow vs vet Enkidu, 2x vet longbow vs elite sword (mountain) lost: reg longbow vs reg Enkidu.
3-680AD Der sword ->marketplace, Braga Enkidu ->Enkidu, Nagsu Settler ->Enkidu,
Maastricht: win: sword army vs reg spear, sword army vs reg spear.
Kua: win vet sword vs vet spear, win vet sword vs vet spear, win vet sword vs reg spear, win vet sword vs vet longbow. Kua captured ->worker.
win elite sword vs vet longbow.

IT win: vet longbow vs vet crusader.
4-690AD Sumer sword->Marketplace, Kisurra sword ->sword.
Sargon: "Here is picture that presents my blocking stragedies."

Sargon: "Treasure is near empty. Sell our tastefull spices and dyes. Can't accept gpt deals."
Incan: spices for 45 gold.Byzantines: Dyes for 32 gold.

IT Win: vet longbow vs elite sword mountain. lost: reg longbow vs vet spear.
5-700AD: Hague: catapult ->Enkidu, Marad sword ->Marketplace, Braga Enkidu ->library,
win: vet sword vs vet spear.

IT lost vet longbow vs elite sword.
6-710AD: win: elite sword vs vet longbow and GL appeared.
Sargon: "My daughter gives a birth. He's my grandson Naramsin and Great Leader."
lost: vet longbow vs vet sword. win:vet longbow vs elite sword. lost: vet longbow vs vet sword.
7-720AD: Kutha Enkidu->courthouse, Rotterdam: Crusader.
groningen: win: vet sword vs vet spear, lost: vet sword vs vet spear, win: elite sword vs vet spear. Groningen captured ->Enkidu.
Hages, win: sword army vs vet spear.
North part, win: vet sword vs vet longbow, win: vet sword vs reg longbow.

IT: lost: vet longbow vs vet Enkidu. (stupid award), Kua Flipped to Dutch.
Sargon: "Killed my spearmen, how stupid they can be. Now those annoyed Gutilians are running freely to their town."
8-730AD: Rotterdam Enkidu->Library, Kisurra sword->Courthouse.
Midsbourg: lost: vet Crusader vs vet spear, win: vet sword vs vet spear, lost: vet sword vs vet spear, lost: vet sword vs reg spear, lost: elite sword vs reg spear, win: vet sword vs reg spear, win: vet sword vs vet longbow, lost: vet sword vs vet longbow, win: vet Enkidu vs 1/4 spear. lost: vet Enkidu vs 2/4 longbow.

IT Hittites captured Maastricht
9-740AD: Utrecht enkidu ->Library
win: elite sword vs elite longbow Midsbourg captured->Enkidu.
Kua: lost: vet sword vs reg spear, win: vet sword vs reg spear, win: vet sword vs reg spear.
win: vet sword vs vet spear.

IT Lost: vet spear vs vet longbow. Hittites captured Kua.
10-750AD: The Hague Enkidu ->Library. Eindhoven Enkidu ->Library.
Babil founded ->library.

IT Lost: vet longbow vs vet sword.
11-760AD: Ur: Heroic Epic ->Library.
win: sword army vs elite longbow.


RIP Sargon. No one expected it, he was 900 years old when died. He ate an apple and choked to it's seeds. His last wishes was to make his grandson Naramsin to be the new king. Naramsin is too young to take resbonsibility of ruling Sumerians. Naramsin is growing up and meanwhile allows Greebley to take control.

 

[Kuningas]

I forgot the save. Will post it soon. I have to reboot and change OS to win XP.

 

[Greebley]

If you want to continue this, I am game, Kuningas. I will play next when you post the save.

 

[kryszcztov]

Very funny and very nice, Kuningas ! This makes me want to lurk the game now. I'm no hero but both of you surely will, this game will be hard to win.

Kuningas, you have good knowledge in Mesopotamia. In fact, I'm not out of Civ. Apart from a never-ending PBEM (PTW), I have no plan in playing Civ in the days/weeks to come, unless something good happens. But I'm back (again !) on working on my mod. This mod will include Sumerians of course, but I'm rather undecided about having Akkadians... They would start in Agade, a city that appears to have never been found, but it might be situated just right next to Babylon... the Babylonian capital, making them hard to coexist. And I'm undecided about having Sargon or Naram-Sin as an Akkadian leader. The former is more famous, but the latter ruled (well) at a better time.

Sorry again for my retirement, I'm a bit ashamed. Yesterday I opened the save so as to play my turns, but after 2 minutes I wasn't feeling like playing at all. Good luck ! And don't hesitate to continue a bit of the story (a little is always some fun).

 

[Kuningas]

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/KRYS03-760AD.SAV

Here it's Greebley. Play as many turns you want up to twenty.

Krys, Actually I got inspiration from my history book.

 

[Greebley]

Preturn: Use Leader to build an army and advance army.

IBT: Byzantine declare war on Mayans
Der: Market->Sword
Braga: Library->Courthouse

770 AD: Kill 3 spearmen in Amsterdam with the two armies in the area.
Rush a sword in Nagsu

IBT:
Nagsu:Sword->Enkidu
Inca are building smith's trading post

780 AD: We nearly lose our army attacking a spear. It had about 10 hp at start and got down to 1 hp with the spear having 2. I thought it was a goner.
Our 3 normal swordsmen win and we take the city! The great library is ours!

IBT: Byzantines demand wine. I give it to them.
Our new techs
Polytheism
Monarchy
Construction
Monotheism
Engineering
Theology
Chivalry
Invention
Printing Press
Education
Gunpowder
Banking
Astronomy
Chemistry
Democracy
Economics
Navigation

Ur: Library->Bank
Sumer: Market->Bank
Anshan: Library->Aquaduct

790 AD: I make peace with the Netherlands for all his cities other than the capitol (Leiden and Hubishna). Note that Hubishna is off our continent on an island. I am hoping the Hittites will be able to kill off the Netherlands.

Diplomacy:
Hittites have Music Theory and lack Banking and Chemistry.
Netherland lacks Economics and Democracy
Byzantines are have Music Theory, Physics, Metallurgy, and Free Artistry (and 2465 gold)
Incas have Music Theory
Mayans lack Banking and Chemestry

I am not going to bother getting Music Theory. I don't think we will be getting wonders.

It appears the Byzantines are gaining quite a bit from the gpt bug. I think it may be worth trying to get contries to fight them.

We have 2 Saltpeter and I am connecting one more.

Switch Der to a Bank
Switch Middelburg to a worker
Switch Kisurra to Aquaduct (in 1).

Lux at 20%, 1 scientist, +94 gold per turn.

I am going to take a small risk. I am going to get an ROP with the Hittites. The hope is that the sooner they take out Netherland, the less risk of flips.

Upgrade 3 Enkidu to Muskets

IBT:
Resistance ends in Amsterdam and it riots
Kisurra: Aquaduct->Market
Marad: Market->Bank

800 AD: Move armies northward.

IBT:
Hittites and Byzantines declare war on the Mayans and then the Netherlands

810 AD: Armies in the N near byzantines now. Don't want to disturb the Hittites killing the Dutch though.

IBT:
Lagos: Market->Courthouse
Kutallu: Courthouse->Aquaduct
Switch Bragu to an Aquaduct (missed it before).

820 AD: Mayans have gems now. Trade them iron for gems, worldmap, and gold (also to strengthen them vs the Byantines).
Upgrade some Enkidu

IBT: The Dutch are destroyed!

830 AD: Declare war on Byzantines. Ally with Hittites against the Byzantine. Trade Democracy for it and pick up Music Theory for "free".

Build a embassy with the Inca (Smith in 25). Ally Inca vs Byzantine (give them 2 luxuries to do it).

Capture Tatub with our armies (which take a good bit of damage).

Change Susa to a Caravel and rush it. We need to take that island out or risk another flip.

IBT: The Byzantines have Cavalry.
Susa: Caravel->Worker
Braga: Aquaduct->Market
Middleburg: Worker->Courthouse

Byzantines start Newtons.

840 AD:
Attack one of the 2 Cavalry. The other is on a mountain.

IBT: Byzantine Cavalry attacks a Sword and wins. It is then killed by the Hittites.
Machu Picchu completes Magellans voyage.

850 AD:
Load 2 sword on boats to attack island (still guarded by spear).

Rushed a Musket in Hubishna so it isn't totally defenseless.

IBT: Accidentally hit the return key. Not much happens.

860 AD: Will pass off without moving units.

Decide to research physics at full. That way we might be able to get to the industrial age with techs from Byzantine for peace.

Didn't check diplo this turn.

Notes:
Our military is poor and needs upgrading.

We are starting to build the necessary infrastructure to do well.

War with the Byzantines is to keep them from getting to far ahead. I think they got ahead and then "took advantage" of the gpt to skyrocket even further. I have broken all those deals, but they have Cavalry, and are at most 1 tech from industrial. We may want to keep them at war (though maybe they will offer enough tech to make peace worthwhile).

I am a bit rushed to finish so no story or pic.

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