Letter from 2012

Ziggy Stardust

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2012 according to http://www.focusonthefamily.com/ if 'Bama wins.

Big ass 16 page pdf: http://focusfamaction.edgeboss.net/download/focusfamaction/pdfs/10-22-08_2012letter.pdf

edit: new place to find pdf: http://www.wnd.com/files/Focusletter.pdf

Choice quotes:

So here is a picture of the changes that are likely or at least very possible if Senator
Obama is elected and the far-left segments of the Democratic Party gain control of the
White House, the Congress, and perhaps then the Supreme Court. The entire letter is
written as a “What if?” exercise, but that does not make it empty speculation because
every future “event” described here is based on established legal and political trends that
can already be abundantly documented and that only need a “tipping point” such as the
election of Senator Obama and a Democratic House and Senate to begin to put them into
place. Every past event named in this letter (everything prior to October 22, 2008) is
established fact and has already taken place.

Dear friends,
I can hardly sing “The Star Spangled Banner” any more. When I hear the words,
O say, does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
I get tears in my eyes and a lump in my throat. Now in October of 2012, after seeing what
has happened in the last four years, I don’t think I can still answer, “Yes,” to that question. We
are not “the land of the free and the home of the brave.” Many of our freedoms have been taken
away by a liberal Supreme Court and a majority of Democrats in both the House and the Senate,
and hardly any brave citizen dares to resist the new government policies any more. :cry:

After that decision, many other policies changed, and several previous Supreme Court
cases were reversed rather quickly — raising the question, “Is America still the land of the free?”
(1) Boy Scouts: “The land of the free”? The Boy Scouts no longer exist as an
organization. They chose to disband rather than be forced to obey the Supreme Court decision
that they would have to hire homosexual scoutmasters and allow them to sleep in tents with
young boys. (This was to be expected with a change in the Court, since the 2000 decision Boy
Scouts of America v. Dale, which affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts as a private organization
to dismiss a homosexual scoutmaster, was a 5-4 decision, with Stevens, Ginsburg, Souter, and
Breyer dissenting even then.) 5
It had become increasingly difficult for the Boy Scouts to find meeting places anyway,
because in 2009 Congress passed and President Obama signed an expansion of the Civil Rights
Act of 1964, which extended federal civil rights protections to people engaging in homosexual
behavior. So the Boy Scouts had already been kicked out of all public facilities.

(2) Elementary schools: “The land of the free”? Elementary schools now include
compulsory training in varieties of gender identity in Grade 1, including the goodness of
homosexuality as one possible personal choice. Many parents tried to “opt out” their children
from such sessions, but the courts have ruled that they cannot do this, noting that education
experts in the government have decided that such training is essential to children’s psychological
health.
Many Christian teachers objected to teaching first graders that homosexuality was
morally neutral and equal to heterosexuality. They said it violated their consciences to have to
teach something the Bible viewed as morally wrong. But state after state ruled that their refusal
to teach positively about homosexuality was the equivalent of hate speech, and they had to teach
it or be fired. Tens of thousands of Christian teachers either quit or were fired, and there are
hardly any evangelical teachers in public schools any more. :cry:

(18) Pornography: “The land of the free”? It’s almost impossible now to keep any
children from seeing pornography. The Supreme Court in 2011 nullified all Federal
Communications Commission restrictions on obscene speech or visual content in radio and TV
broadcasts, and television programs at all hours of the day now contain explicit portrayals of
sexual acts. The Court simply applied more broadly the “Miller test” from the 1973 decision in
Miller v. California, by which a work could not be found obscene unless “the work, taken as a
whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, and scientific value.” In the 2011 decision the
Court essentially found that any pornographic work had some measure of “serious artistic value,”
at least according to some observers, and thus any censorship of any kind of pornographic
material was an unconstitutional restriction on the First Amendment freedom of speech and
freedom of the press. In addition, all city and county laws restricting pornography were struck
down by this decision. As a result, pornographic magazines are now openly displayed in gas
stations, grocery stores, and newsstands (as they have been in some European countries for
several years).
In addition, law enforcement officials can no longer stop the distribution of child
pornography, after the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the such distribution violated freedom of
speech and interstate commerce laws.

Terrorist attacks: “The home of the brave”? President Obama directed U.S.
intelligence services to cease all wiretapping of alleged terrorist phone calls unless they first
obtained a specific court warrant for each case. Terrorists captured overseas, instead of being
tried in military tribunals, are now given full trials in the U.S. court system, and they have to be
allowed access to a number of government secrets to prepare their defense.
Since 2009 terrorist bombs have exploded in two large and two small U.S. cities, killing
hundreds, and the entire country is now fearful, for no place seems safe. President Obama in
each case has vowed “to pursue and arrest and prosecute those responsible,” but no arrests have
yet been made. However, he has also challenged the nation to increase foreign aid to the poorer
nations that were the breeding grounds for terrorism, so that people could have an opportunity to
escape from the cycles of poverty and violence in which generations had been trapped. :cry:

Have a read. It's loony goodieness. :lol:
 
The only thing scary is fear itself. When you let them scare you, the dark side has you.

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:lol: hilarious find :goodjob:
 
In my day, we were allowed to stone false prophets.
FotF mentions "tipping points". I wonder if they ever publish about ecological tipping points?
 
In my day, we were allowed to stone false prophets.
FotF mentions "tipping points". I wonder if they ever publish about ecological tipping points?

you must have a lot of anger and frustration in you knowing so much and seeing so many things going for the worse, do you?
 
I don't know if I have anger and frustration regarding these topics. I have a great deal of sympathy and concern. I very much feel like 'people who care' could use a great deal more help than they're getting.

I'm also extremely optimistic regarding my own long-term prospects, I think that my future is pretty good because I'll be insulated from most of the damages that people cause. I think that more people could engage in actions which would not only help others, but improve their future prospects at the same time. The "trickle-down" to the Bottom Billion is pretty slow via that mechanism, though, and so I'd really appreciate it if more people helped that arena directly, too.

There are many reasons to be concerned, but I think that many other people will suffer from miscalculations much more than I ever will.
 
I don't know if I have anger and frustration regarding these topics. I have a great deal of sympathy and concern. I very much feel like 'people who care' could use a great deal more help than they're getting.
absolutely, but how do you feel then about actions or ideas based on ideological motives that work counter-productive.
For example, how would you feel if you know something as objectiovinism is growing and is affecting policy?

Well, I'm actually thinking about this, becuase last night i went to a live-band and I was having a very interesting discussion with a bio-chemistry older student on stemcells and the ethical questions around it and in other fields and the moral responsibility of research and discoveries.

(and I asked him to explain to me why green flouroscent protein was so important) (flouroscent pigs FTW ;) )

The conclusion was that poeple make such an issue about things they don't know anything about just becuase of the fear that was either planted in them or other obscure reasons. (why deepen yourself in a subjec that you "disgust" or fear?)

I replied that if i were a scientist I would want control over the moral complications of my work and would let this be unhampered by any religious or unfounded accusations or obstructions.

Then he said, of course, but we need money too to fund it all.

Showing exactly that a scientist is between two fields: his innate idealism and the capital he needs to furfill it.

Anyway, to get back to my earlier point, you must be feeling some frustration from on how some poeple hinder things for a common good for the poeple. It's completely natural, in fact i see it as a sign of being sincere.

I'm also extremely optimistic regarding my own long-term prospects, I think that my future is pretty good because I'll be insulated from most of the damages that people cause. I think that more people could engage in actions which would not only help others, but improve their future prospects at the same time. The "trickle-down" to the Bottom Billion is pretty slow via that mechanism, though, and so I'd really appreciate it if more people helped that arena directly, too.
How would you be insulated? isn't society interactive? How can you count on such sense of security? Wouldn't that create a blind spot?

And I agree with the second part of your post.

There are many reasons to be concerned, but I think that many other people will suffer from miscalculations much more than I ever will.
Perhaps, but the thing is, how can you protect yourself and others from the miscalculations of others?
 
Dear friends,
I can hardly sing “The Star Spangled Banner” any more. When I hear the words,
O say, does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
I get tears in my eyes and a lump in my throat. Now in October of 2012, after seeing what
has happened in the last four years, I don’t think I can still answer, “Yes,” to that question. We
are not “the land of the free and the home of the brave.” Many of our freedoms have been taken
away by a liberal Supreme Court and a majority of Democrats in both the House and the Senate,
and hardly any brave citizen dares to resist the new government policies any more.

Seriously funny sh--stuff. Where was this person eight years ago? Wait, neocons didn't take freedoms away, did they?
 
wait....most of those things sound awesome.

porn on tv midday? equality for gays? BEING MORE LIKE TEH YURUPZ!!?!?

i'll take it.

Edit: I apologize for the caps craze four years ago. And I'm sad none of this came to pass.
 
Several pages are devoted to pure homophobia. This article starts off with a massive amount of fail.

The article manages to get back on track with freedom of religious speech and (limited) abortion, aside from a quip at the Pledge of Allegiance.
 
I was a bit disappointed that the author didn't go the whole way and claim that by 2012 ALL marriages have to be same-sex :ack:
 
The far right seems to have a strange obsession with homosexuality. It seldom crosses my mind unless I see a news comment or hear something about it. Why the preoccupation with something unless it directly affects you? If Mary and Sue down the street decide to get it on in the privacy of their home, what difference does it make to the rest of us?
 
I'll skip my opinions on the pornography section, for the tastes of this forum (Other than that which involves children, which is wrong).

The part about prosecution of the Bush administration is just laughable. If they were found to be doing illegal things (by US standards, international muckiness notwithstanding), then shouldn't they be treated like Mr. Stevens?

Hardy har har, this writer thinks liberals would ban Christian books from being sold. Of course, if the free market decides it doesn't want that material, that's another matter.
 
The far right seems to have a strange obsession with homosexuality. It seldom crosses my mind unless I see a news comment or hear something about it. Why the preoccupation with something unless it directly affects you? If Mary and Sue down the street decide to get it on in the privacy of their home, what difference does it make to the rest of us?

Once you realize that J. Edgar Hoover was a frustrated homosexual and known transvestite (fact!) any right-wing obsession with deviant sexual behaviour comes as no surprise at all.;)
 
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