LK173, Civ=Scandinavia, CCM3, Island Hopping

[Greebley]

I think the move 3 is the better choice. It doesn't really slow the overall win by more than a turn or two.

If the time for staging is a concern, we could have gone for airports before tanks as it really reduces getting units to their location. That is partly why I suggested it earlier as an option before tanks. We can get it next.

 

[LKendter]

Flight will arrive my next turn. IIRC it is useless for transporting tanks. Those are the main units I'm building now.

Next week should have a report. I'm getting in a full 10 set. I'm working on turn 8.

 

[Jersey Joe]

I hope you are going to go for Radio next to get the faster and larger freighters to transport troops.
Based on my play style, I would rather have tanks than airplanes. Tanks can capture towns, Airplanes can't.
Also, I think airports are only useful to use as a prebuild for a wonder. For the shields it takes to build an airport you can build 7 tanks and 1 WWI infantry.

 

[LKendter]

Jan 1930 AD (0)
The unmoved leader forms another army.

I’m not sure why we are building so many adventurers. I’ve rarely gotten value from them.

I noticed our shipping lane between Dover and Trondheim has NO escorts. I rush several light cruisers in the area.

Greebley did a good job filling in empty spaces. I find no cities worth adding to our first two continents. I plan to pull all workers from China. There isn’t a lot more work to do. More workers are needed on the continent in progress.
I did find 2 small islands that can use cities. I rushed a steamer in that area.
(IT) Lots of Persian troops moving around.
I lost: 1 adventurer. (0-1)
Ergili was hit by a propaganda campaign.

 

[LKendter]

Jul 1930 AD (1)
Short Hop is founded. This will speed up transporting to China.

I shift all our healing units to Bifröst. I prefer to healing in a 0% flip risk city.

UGGGHHHHH - something just auto-moved. I didn’t see where that was.
Was it the auto go to after build? I suddenly had an oddball stack with movement points near Memphis.
[End of session 1]
Early Armored Car of Doom arrived. Another army is formed.

A lot of Persia units are around the British city of Southampton. Finishing off Britain will take a bit.
More Persian death will have to wait until next turn when I ship more troops over and others are healed.

New Norrkoping and New Malmö are founded.
New Malmö got an instant culture bomb to stop the Inca settler to close to it. That pair should now be walking for a few turns.

I kill Korea: 1 corvette. (1-1)
I kill Oceania: 1 heavy frigate. (2-1)
I kill: 1 invisible sea unit. (3-1)
I kill Persia: 1 Gatling gun, 1 heavy artillery piece, 5 infantry and 1 cavalry. (11-1)
I lost: 1 field artillery piece. (11-2)
(IT) I saw Persia attack a British unit. However, there troops ignore the British capitol.
Damaskus was hit by propaganda.
Austria completes there UW.
The Inca are building Telephone Corp.
Most of the Persia units move away. Something must have distracted them.
I lost 1 ship. (11-3)

 

[LKendter]

Jan 1931 AD (2)
The Inca have an exclusive on radio. I don’t want another war, so no steal attempt coming up.
[End of session 2]

I get scared when an army redlines. Clearing infantry stacks is rough even with armies.
TEMP is formed. Getting the last of the British cities need some help.

The assault on Coventry beings. I kill 1 dragoon and 2 redcoats. (14-3)
I pillage $96.

Forest on Tundra is so annoying. I can’t get to Cardiff this turn. Britain will survive another turn.

Persia left around Southampton. The assault begins. I kill 1 dragoon and 4 redcoats. (19-3)
I pillaged $168.

New Orebro and New Visby are founded.

I kill Korea: 1 ship of the line. (20-3)
I kill Persia: 1 heavy artillery pieces, 28 infantry and 1 Hotchkiss. (50-3)
I lost: 1 armored car and 2 infantries. (50-6)
(IT) Canada and Portugal sign a peace treaty.
It is nice to see borders expanding messages. Every tile gained gets us closer to the end.

 

[LKendter]

Jul 1931 AD (3)
The assault on Cardiff begins. I kill 2 redcoat and 1 dragoon. (53-3)
I pillaged $125.

The assault on Leeds begins. I kill 2 redcoats. (55-3)
I pillaged $375.

Britian has left the game.

New Falun and New Gävle are founded.
New Karlskrona is founded. It has a slight flip risk to the Inca. However, I doubt their island city will generate much culture.
[End of session 3]
Hilly Mountains, Tundra Waste, Iron Tundra and Forest Choked are formed. I’m grabbing every marginal spot possible. The size of this open area is unbelievable. There is enough room for 10+ more cities.

Taking out Persia is going to be tough. There are way too many mountains and hills in the way.

I kill Persia: 1 partisan and 4 infantries. (60-3)
I kill Oceania: 1 heavy frigate, 1 paddle steamer and 2 ship of the line. (64-3)
I lost: 1 dragoon and 1 destroyer. (64-5)
(IT) I killed Persia: 1 ship. (65-5)
Research on early tanks is done. The next research project is flight.
Our spy in Persia was caught.

 

[LKendter]

Jan 1931 AD (4)
The assault on Sardis begins. I kill 3 infantries. I lost: 4 armored cars. (68-9)
I pillaged $348. I gained 3 zeppelins.
The city gets a culture bomb.

The Inca will complete International Telephone Corp in 3 turns. I have no city that can beat that time. Radio comes with the penalty of making town clocks obsolete. I simply sell them early tanks for $6520 and $990/T.

I declare war on Canada. Looking at the situation versus Persia it will be easier to split my efforts on 2 fronts where there are easier cities to capture.

The assault on Regina begins. I kill 2 pikes. (70-9)
It gets a culture bomb.

The assault on Wollongong begins. I kill 3 muskets. (73-9)
I pillage $1.

No Name arrives. They build an army.

Port Forest, Something Fishy, Mr. Potato Head, Ride Them Cowboy, Oil Slick, Seal of Approval and I'm Incensed are founded.

[End of session 4]

6 More Tiles is founded. Pulling off the win with conquering just the current continent is tight. I found a small block in former Japan to claim.
I can tell I really don’t want to go past the current continent for conquest. I think that will add another 10 to 15 turns to the game. I’m ready for this one to be done. I’m actively reviewing our current conquered continent to make sure there are no block of unclaimed tiles left to claim.

I kill Canada: 1 crossbow. (74-9)
I kill Oceania: 1 Grenadier, 1 infantry, 1 musket, 4 musketeers, 2 ships of the line. (83-9)
I kill Portugal: 1 warrior, 1 cuirassier, 4 musketmen. (89-9)
I kill Korea: 1 ship of the line. (90-9)
I kill Persia: 1 camel, 2 cavalry, 1 knight, 1 Hotchkiss, 3 steamrollers, 3 adventurers and 8 infantries. (109-9)
I lost: 3 infantries and 1 dragoon. (109-13)
I gained 7 workers and 1 artist.
(IT) Persia caught me off guard. I lost 1 infantry and Sardis. $48 was lost. (109-14)
Oceania attempts an amphibious landing at Canton. They lost 3 infantries. (112-14)
I killed Persia: 1 motorized car. (113-14)

I see my favorite message of border expansion.

A Persian spy was caught sabotaging production in Edo.

 

[LKendter]

Jun 1931 AD (5)
Rocky Mountain High, Crabby Camel, Oily Desert, Swampville, Tip of the Forest and Plain Old City are founded.

The assault on Sidon begins. I kill 5 infantries. I lost 7 armored cars. (117-22)
It was very scary watching 2 armies redline. The assault failed.

[End of session 5]

I have made the decision to fortify our workers. At this point we have the troops to win. Getting some troops a little faster won’t matter. Skipping the workers will save some RL time per turn.

The recovery of Sardis begins. I kill 2 infantry and 1 horse artillery piece. (120-22)
I pillaged $100. The 3 zeppelins are back in our hands.

Flaming Dragoon arrived. An empty army is built awaiting the first tanks.

River Tundra, Pig Iron, Metallic Forest, Forest Tip and Coal Dye are founded.

I kill Canada: 1 crossbow. (121-22)
I kill Oceania: 3 infantries, 1 paddle steamer and 1 ship of the line. (126-22)
I kill Persia: 2 immortals, 2 crossbows, 1 steamroller, 10 infantries and 1 armored car. (142-22)
I gained 2 workers.
(IT) I kill Persia: 1 adventurer and 1 invisible. (144-22)

 

[LKendter]

Jan 1932 AD (6)
The assault on Faro begins. I kill 2 musketeers. (146-22)
The second assault on Sidon begins. I kill 1 artillery piece, 1 armor cars, 1 adventurer and 9 infantries. I lost: 5 armored cars and 1 armor car army (OUCH). (158-28).
The blasted city again survived. The city was almost empty last time. My only guess is that a lot of new units came in via rail.

The assault on Alacer begins. I kill 1 crossbow, 1 pike and 1 musket. (161-28)
I gained 1 worker.
The city gets a culture bomb.

The assault on Quebec begins. I kill 3 pikes. (164-28)
I pillaged $2 and gained a supply shipment.

Whale View Hills and Volcano View are founded. I can’t recall the last game where I was so obsessed with filling in every spot. The rough math put winning with the current continent so close that a few more tiles could be the difference in being forced to go to another continent.
[End of session 6]

I’ve pretty much depleted our cash for rushing. I’m going to limit the rushing now to the continent we are fighting on. That will take a bit of pressure off the transport lines.

Say Hello to the Dragoon arrived. A brand-new tank army is created.
Back to Back Leaders arrived. A brand-new tank army is created.

I got a spy back into Persia. There are still 83 infantries to kill.

I stopped attacking due to lack of units. There are still a ton to bring over from China. I want to save the tanks for Persia. I need stronger units to deal with their infantry.

I kill Oceania: 1 pike, 1 crossbow, 1 warrior, 2 grenadier, 1 MDI, 6 infantry, 6 musket, 6 musketeers and 1 heavy frigate. (189-28)
I kill Portugal: 1 warrior, 3 pikes, 2 musketeers, 6 Cuirassier, 9 musketmen, 2 spears and 1 crossbow. (213-28)
I kil Persia: 1 adventurer, 1 armored car and 11 infantries. (226-28)
I lost: 4 armored cards, 1 lawyer, 1 dragoon, 1 coastal defense ship, 3 tanks and 1 infantry. (226-39)
I gained 2 artists.
(IT) Turkey wants us to pay $1,183/T for an MPP.
Inca declares war on Portugal.
Oceania takes Faro from us. There were fast units I didn’t see nearby. I lost $3.
Persia lost: 2 inf. (228-39)
Portugal lost 2 Cuirassier. (230-39)
I lost: 1 infantry and 1 armored car. (230-41)

I get to see my favorite message of border expansions quite a few times. I gained ~.9% in territory.

The Greeks are building International Telegraph company.

 

[LKendter]

Jun 1932 AD (7)
Glow in the Dark and Climb Every Mountain are founded. They won’t fully claim that mountain range, but it does give a few more tiles.

The third assault on Sidon begins. I kill: 2 infantry and 3 armored cars. (235-41)
I found 3 workers inside. I sent a red-lined army to heal. The city gets a culture bomb.

The assault to recover Faro begins. I kill 1 infantry and 1 light horse (237-41).

The assault on Teheran begins. I kill 1 horse artillery piece, 1 camel and 9 infantries. I lost 3 tanks. (248-44)
I gained national monument. Every city now gets 1 more culture per turn.
I also got 1 zeppelin.

The assault on Arbela begins. I kill 1 armored car, 1 heavy artillery piece and 6 infantries. I lost 2 horse artillery pieces. (256-46)
I gained 2 workers.
[End of session 7]

With going to mainly troops the city review has gotten a lot easier.

Java Bean, Iced Whale and Black Gold are founded.

The assault on Luanda begins. I kill 2 musketeers. (250-44)

I know I have been rushing like crazy when there is less than $100 available.

I kill Canada: 2 crossbows and 1 knight. (253-44)
I kill Oceania: 1 infantry and 1 horse artillery piece. (255-44)
I kill Portugal: 2 warriors, 1 spear, 1 musket, 3 Cuirassier, 1 MDI, 1 crossbow, 1 cannon and 2 pikes. (277-44)
I kill Persia: 1 heavy artillery piece, 1 archer, 6 crossbows, 5 immortals, 1 MDI, 3 muskets and 4 infantries. (298-44)
I lost: 1 tank, 1 partisan, 1 adventurer and 2 armored cars. (298-48)
I gained: 1 artist.
(IT) It is funny watching Canton get bombarded by a sub every turn.
Portugal lost 1 ship and a Cuirassier. (300-48)

I continue to get my favorite message of border expansion.
The Inca complete International Telephone Corp.
We caught the Inca trying to plant a spy.

 

[LKendter]

Jan 1933 AD (8)
The assault on Jinjan begins. I kill 2 infantries and 1 adventurer. I lost 1 armored car. (303-49)
I pillage $1. I gained 2 workers and 2 zeppelins.
It gets a culture bomb.
[End of session 8]

There are too many targets, and still not enough troops. The Memphis area is clear. There is still a lot to clear from China. What is crazy is I had to build more steamers for the path to Dover. I wonder if too many got pulled for the other paths.

The assault on Persepolis begins. I kill 6 infantries. I lost 1 army (armored car) (309-55)
I find the desert also has a three movement point cost. So much for throwing tanks at the city. Taking the city proves to be more difficult than I expected.
World religion Islam is now ours. Another point of culture in every city is appreciated.
The city gets a culture bomb. The Persian advance is now getting stuck due to all the desert tiles in the area. Combat settlers value is limited unless they can open a path without desert / hills.

Golden Hills is founded. The assault on Zohak begins. I kill 3 infantries. I lost 1 tank. (312-56)
I gained $1 and 2 zeppelins. Hopefully they aren’t lead filled.
The city gets a culture bomb.

The assault on Hamadan begins. I kill 2 infantries. I lost 1 tank. (314-57)
I gained $1 and 1 zeppelin.

I can get to Tyre somehow. I kill 4 infantries. (316-57)

I send our remaining tanks toward the next two cities. I rush more tanks on this continent. They can’t arrive fast enough for the Persian fight. The rest of the civs should fall easily by armored cars.

Chunk of Ice is founded.

The assault on Victoria begins. I kill 1 musket and 1 pike. (318-57)

The assault on Rio Janeiro begins. I kill 4 muskets. (322-57)

The attacks versus Portugal stop due to hostile terrain.

I kill Oceania: 6 infantries. (328-57)
I kill Persia: 1 steamroller, 2 infantries and 4 adventurers. (335-57)
I kill Korea: 1 war galleon. (336-57)
I kill Portugal: 3 musketeers, 1 settler, 1 spear and 3 Cuirassier. (344-57)
I lost 1 dragoon. (344-58)
I gained 2 artists and 1 worker.
[End of session 9]

(IT) Persia and Inca sign peace.
I’m not sure if the tech choice matters. Radio would give us ships with a bit more capacity, but a turn would be lost for upgrading. I pick dreadnaughts at just 30% science. At this point we simply need units.

 

[LKendter]

I'm currently working on turn 9 of 10. As you can see from the above these are massive turns.
The log document got so long that I simply wanted to clear it out.

At this pace I make break 400 units killed during my set.

 

[Jersey Joe]

on the progress.

I’m not sure why we are building so many adventurers. I’ve rarely gotten value from them.

The 2 primary reasons I build them is (1) They can see invisible troops; (2) I like to use them as MPs in interior cities and cities we are starving. Why use WWI Infantry guarding an interior city when you can use an adventurer. Also, they can pillage (not that I use it much)

I shift all our healing units to Bifröst. I prefer to healing in a 0% flip risk city.

UGGGHHHHH - something just auto-moved. I didn’t see where that was.
Was it the auto go to after build? I suddenly had an oddball stack with movement points near Memphis.

I built Bifrost. I would think it has zero risk of flip. Am I missing something?
I set up an auto go to on every continent for most of the cities building troops. I found it made moving the newly built units to where they could board steamers quicker and easier. I just wish the auto move would occur in the beginning of a turn instead of towards the end.

The Inca will complete International Telephone Corp in 3 turns. I have no city that can beat that time. Radio comes with the penalty of making town clocks obsolete. I simply sell them early tanks for $6520 and $990/T.

Saigon could have completed it in 3 turns if you planted and mined 2 forests ( to make up for the lose of the town clock) which would have caused a minor food shortage in Saigon.
I’m not sure if the tech choice matters. Radio would give us ships with a bit more capacity, but a turn would be lost for upgrading.

I’m not sure if the tech choice matters. Radio would give us ships with a bit more capacity, but a turn would be lost for upgrading.

The only place having freighters vs steamers would matter might be on the Dover run since the extra move might get the troops to Dover in 1 turn not 2.
I didn't think about it before, but losing the Town clock bonus would have hurt 1 turn tank production. From what you have written, more tanks sounds better than freighters replacing steamers.

 

[Dwarven Zerker]

I built Bifrost. I would think it has zero risk of flip. Am I missing something?

I think Lee is agreeing with you by explicitly stating Bifrost is a 0% flip risk.

 

[LKendter]

I think Lee is agreeing with you by explicitly stating Bifrost is a 0% flip risk.

Exactly

 

[LKendter]

Jul 1933 AD (9)
The assault on Evora begins. I kill 2 musketeers. (346-58)
I gain $1 and 2 workers.

The assault on Braga begins. I kill 3 musketeers and 1 grenadier. I lost 1 armored car. (350-58)

The assault on Borazjan begins. I kill 2 infantries. I lost 1 tank. (352-59)
I gained 4 workers and 1 zeppelin.

The assault on Pasargadae begins. I kill 4 infantries. I lost 4 tanks. (356-63)

Energetic Ice is founded. Salty Desert is founded. I burn a precious artist to claim a bunch of desert tiles.

The assault on Bactra begins. I kill 3 infantries and 1 rifle. I lost 2 tanks. (360-65)

Combat 001 is founded. The assault on Gordium begins. I kill 4 infantries. I lost 1 tank. (364-65)

Combat 002 and Combat 003 are founded. The assault on Antioch begins. I kill 2 infantries. (366-65)

Combat 004 is founded. The assault on Dariush begins. I killed 1 artillery piece, 3 infantry, 3 armored cars and 1 adventurer. I lost 1 tank. (374-66)
I gained 1 worker.

Combat 005 is founded. The assault on Istakhr begins. I killed 2 infantries. (376-66)

I hit Tyre with a culture bomb to claim more desert tiles.

I can’t reach Ghulman this turn due to all the hills around it. Once again, the higher movement cost for hills slows me down. I must wait another turn to see if Persia will die. I’m happy to say our spy report shows no settlers.

Combat 006 is founded. The assault on Evora begins. I kill 3 musketeers. (379-66)
I pillage $1.

The assault on Leira begins. I kill 3 musketeers. I lost: 1 armored car. (382-67)
I pillage $1.

Combat 007 is founded. The assault on Oporto begins. I kill 2 musketeers. I lost 2 armored cars. (384-69)

Combat 008 is founded. The assault on Lisbon begins. I kill 4 musketeers. I lost 2 armored cars. (388-71)
I pillage $2. I killed ships in port.

Combat 009 is founded. The assault on Lagos begins. I kill 3 musketeers. I lost 1 armored car. (391-72)
I pillage $3.

I failed to plant a spy in Portugal. I have no idea if they have a wandering settler.

The assault on Guimaraes begins. I kill 3 musketeers and 1 invisible. (395-72)
I pillage $3.

Combat 010 is founded. The assault on Sagres begins. I kill 3 musketeers. (398-72)
I pillage $3.
[End of session 10]

I know how long these turns are when I don’t even do the cleanup phase for stray units before ending a session. I kill off stray stuff near the towns I just took.

Combat 011 is founded. This lets me put troops next to the first Oceania city that is surrounded by hills and mountains.
Combat 012 and Combat 013 are founded. This sets up the second Oceania city that is surrounded by hills and mountains.

The assault on Ottawa begins. I kill 1 musketmen and 2 pikes. I lost 2 armored cars. (401-74)
I pillage $6.

At this point I’m forced to stop due to the lack of attacking units and workers for rails to the front.

I kill Oceania: 1 light horse, 1 pike and 8 infantries. (411-74)
I kill Canada: 1 crossbow, 1 knight, 3 crossbows, 2 pikes and 1 musket. (419-74)
I kill Persia: 1 rifle, 1 armored car and 3 adventurers. (424-74)
I kill Portugal: 1 foot knight, 4 musket, 1 musketeer and 3 Cuirassiers. (433-74)
I lost: 1 armored car, 1 infantry and 1 lawyer. (433-77)
I gained 3 workers.
(IT) Lowlands complains about our troops. I guess I left ships by there island that should be ours. I accept the auto boot.
Korea lost 1 ship. (434-77)


I'm heading to my last move of the set. I'm sure it will be another massive one like above.

 

[Jersey Joe]

I am sorry for the comment I made about Birfrost. For some reason, I read it as shifting units out of Bifrost.

Tanks had the same movement problem in deserts in LK172. I don't remember exactly but Dragoon and Armored car armies could move at least 1 tile more than a tank army in deserts.

 

[LKendter]

Last turn teaser:

 

[LKendter]

One more last turn teaser: