LK33 - Regent Challenge, Batters Cage, Unlimited players
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ControlFreak
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Such confidence from the winner of the last 3 rounds in a row!
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Turns are due by Thursday, midnight, gmt - 5. Play until 310AD per the utility from Control Freak.
So far ZERO shadows turns
Is 20 turns becoming to much at this point?
Should we switch to 10 after this round?
So far ZERO shadows turns
Is 20 turns becoming to much at this point?
Should we switch to 10 after this round?
ControlFreak
Not An Addict, Really
Yes please.
I've got ten turns done and can post them. Not sure if I can get to the remaining 7 i need to get to 20. There's a lot of units and cities to manage now. Especially with expansion to the south continuing and a few acquisitions:rocket:
Game is slowing but I'm having fun and learning a lot. I would love to keep it going and ten turns sound like the trick for me. Let me know what's decided. I'll post what I have at ~15:30 GMT-5.
I've got ten turns done and can post them. Not sure if I can get to the remaining 7 i need to get to 20. There's a lot of units and cities to manage now. Especially with expansion to the south continuing and a few acquisitions:rocket:
Game is slowing but I'm having fun and learning a lot. I would love to keep it going and ten turns sound like the trick for me. Let me know what's decided. I'll post what I have at ~15:30 GMT-5.
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I won't change the current round - it will be until 310AD. I am trying to get a feel for the rounds after 310AD. So far one vote for 10 rounds.
@ControlFreak - don't post until you have the full 20. I may extended the deadline again on this round to get enough people. The next turn is leaning toward 10.
@ControlFreak - don't post until you have the full 20. I may extended the deadline again on this round to get enough people. The next turn is leaning toward 10.
hotrod0823
Deity
Seeing as how LK34 is finished 
, I will try to get my 20 done tonight, as well as the 30 I owe in crackers game.
Hotrod
, I will try to get my 20 done tonight, as well as the 30 I owe in crackers game.Hotrod
hotrod0823
Deity
That was a quick game, thanks to the many early settlers I think.
I think I will try 20 tonight but 10 may be easier as we get more units and workers etc. I know my last turn at LK34 was a long 20 turns. Will let you know tomorrow how long the 20 took.
Hotrod
I think I will try 20 tonight but 10 may be easier as we get more units and workers etc. I know my last turn at LK34 was a long 20 turns. Will let you know tomorrow how long the 20 took.
Hotrod
10 would be much better for me, for the next few weeks my computer time is going to be limited. I will try to get my 20 turns in later this afternoon, and I think hopefully I will be able to post more promptly after the winner is determined during that time.
this was done pretty quickly so go gentle LK
10bc antium and pompeii builds legionarys and starts another
viroconium builds spearman and starts worker
four legions move adjacent to rheims and one adjacent to lyons
change neapolis to library
10ad rome builds settler and starts another
pisae builds courthouse and starts temple
a new source of iron is discovered close to pisae
four legions attack rheims, 1 spear dies but 3 legions are lost
legion takes out 1 spear ay lyons
30ad veii builds legionary and starts another
hispalis revolts so i hire an entertainer .... revolts happen frequently during these 20 turns ... the more cities i have the worse my mm becomes
Argos citizens dress in red togas and burn their green tunics ... another flip
rheims destroyed with two workers captured
lyons destroyed
there are 2 greek settler/hoplite stacks advancing on the ex french land ... i will relign my legions to stop them settling in these areas although this will put back the attack on orleans
pompeii changed to settler i need settler for the french lands
50ad antium builds legionary starts another
pompeii builds settler starts legionary
70ad hispalis builds courthouse starts spearman
rome builds settler and starts another
90ad veii builds legionary starts just one more
viroconium builds worker starts courthouse
110ad antium and pompeii build legionaries and start more
ravenna builds spearman and starts worker
change veii to settler again for french lands
130ad neapolis builds library starts worker
hispalis builds spearman starts temple
150ad construction discovered start feudalism
veii builds settler starts library
cumae builds courthouse starts marketplace
neapolis builds worker starts marketplace
lutetia builds spearman starts courthouse
syracuse founded start spearman
170ad rome builds settler starts galley ... i will try to investigate the coast to the north east
pompeii builds legionary starts aquaduct
c.augusta becomes first overseas city start spearman
190adantium builds legionary starts temple
ravenna builds worker starts another
palmyra founded starts spearman
210ad orleans destroyed
veii changed to settler
jerusalem founded starts spearman
caesarea founded starts spearman
230ad veii builds settler starts aquaduct
250ad rome builds galley starts temple
pisae builds temple starts marketplace
tarentum foundered starts spearman
260ad ravenna builds worker starts temple
hispalis builds temple starts aquaduct
270ad byzantium builds spearman starts worker
galley sinks... but no cultural boundaries spotted
280ad buy worker from from greece for 26gp
290ad neapolis builds marketplace starts worker
pompeii builds aquaduct starts courthouse
sci set to 30%
300ad antium builds temple starts marketplace
brundisium builds spearman starts courthouse
nicomedia founded starts temple
310ad rome builds temple starts settler
neapolis builds worker starts barracks
we have 88gp and 1gpt. tax 60%/sci30%/lux10%
france was destroyed in 210ad
greece has mono. but will not trade
we have 1 settler enroute to the southern isles
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/LK33-swiftsure-310ad.zip
10bc antium and pompeii builds legionarys and starts another
viroconium builds spearman and starts worker
four legions move adjacent to rheims and one adjacent to lyons
change neapolis to library
10ad rome builds settler and starts another
pisae builds courthouse and starts temple
a new source of iron is discovered close to pisae
four legions attack rheims, 1 spear dies but 3 legions are lost
legion takes out 1 spear ay lyons
30ad veii builds legionary and starts another
hispalis revolts so i hire an entertainer .... revolts happen frequently during these 20 turns ... the more cities i have the worse my mm becomes
Argos citizens dress in red togas and burn their green tunics ... another flip
rheims destroyed with two workers captured
lyons destroyed
there are 2 greek settler/hoplite stacks advancing on the ex french land ... i will relign my legions to stop them settling in these areas although this will put back the attack on orleans
pompeii changed to settler i need settler for the french lands
50ad antium builds legionary starts another
pompeii builds settler starts legionary
70ad hispalis builds courthouse starts spearman
rome builds settler and starts another
90ad veii builds legionary starts just one more
viroconium builds worker starts courthouse
110ad antium and pompeii build legionaries and start more
ravenna builds spearman and starts worker
change veii to settler again for french lands
130ad neapolis builds library starts worker
hispalis builds spearman starts temple
150ad construction discovered start feudalism
veii builds settler starts library
cumae builds courthouse starts marketplace
neapolis builds worker starts marketplace
lutetia builds spearman starts courthouse
syracuse founded start spearman
170ad rome builds settler starts galley ... i will try to investigate the coast to the north east
pompeii builds legionary starts aquaduct
c.augusta becomes first overseas city start spearman
190adantium builds legionary starts temple
ravenna builds worker starts another
palmyra founded starts spearman
210ad orleans destroyed
veii changed to settler
jerusalem founded starts spearman
caesarea founded starts spearman
230ad veii builds settler starts aquaduct
250ad rome builds galley starts temple
pisae builds temple starts marketplace
tarentum foundered starts spearman
260ad ravenna builds worker starts temple
hispalis builds temple starts aquaduct
270ad byzantium builds spearman starts worker
galley sinks... but no cultural boundaries spotted
280ad buy worker from from greece for 26gp
290ad neapolis builds marketplace starts worker
pompeii builds aquaduct starts courthouse
sci set to 30%
300ad antium builds temple starts marketplace
brundisium builds spearman starts courthouse
nicomedia founded starts temple
310ad rome builds temple starts settler
neapolis builds worker starts barracks
we have 88gp and 1gpt. tax 60%/sci30%/lux10%
france was destroyed in 210ad
greece has mono. but will not trade
we have 1 settler enroute to the southern isles
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/LK33-swiftsure-310ad.zip
I rushed through mine quickly too, I didn't notice that you had extended the deadline, which is a lucky thing for me, since I was past it by almost 3 hours anyway 
LK, I would suggest the next round be 14 turns, just to get us on the best year to do 10 turns for the rest of the game. From now on, when the number of years shorten in the game, they will always do it starting with a year that ends in 50, eg, before 1750 turns are 5 years, starting at 1750 years become 2 years, so we would play from 1700 to 1750, then 1750 to 1770.
Anyway, here is my hastily played game, I probably could have conducted the wars a bit better with a little more patience.
IT: increase science to 50%, -8 gpt construction now in 7 instead of 10. We have a strong military compared to both England and Greece. Neither Greece or England are willing to ally against the other right now. Rome changed to Legionary. Sells granary. Cumae switched from courthouse to legionary (was only losing 1 shield out of 5). Neapolis cancels construction of granary, switches to legionary. Pompeii sells granary. Pisae switched from courthouse to library (only losing 2 shields out of 7). Lugdunum MMed to pull city worker out of the water and onto the spice, but added commerce/shields all lost to corruption. Paris switched from legionary to walls.
10BC Viroconium completes spearman, begins worker since it has 0 growth. Rheims autorazed, and we get a GL. Too bad, I was planning on using him for the FP in Rheims when I saw him produced. Instead build an army in Paris.
70 AD Lyons is autorazed.
110 AD research on feudalism began.
150 AD Syracuse founded on island to the SE, settler lands on the land to the East of that. Syracuse begins settler.
170 AD Orleans autorazed by our army, and the french are no more. Caesaraugusta founded, begins settler to colonize this new land.
Greece tells us to leave their land, we say goodbye.
190 AD Argos spearman defeats the first of our Legionaries, but gave his life against the second, and Argos is autorazed. Warrior defending a settler takes half of our armies health before dying.
250 Ephesus spearman holds off 3 legionaries.
260 AD Greek settler captured.
270 Mycenae captured. Athens and the Oracle are ours, at the cost of 3 legionaries.
The Americans have completed the hanging gardens in washington.
280 Our golden age has ended
290 Veii switched to palace as placeholder.
300 Super Spearman in Corinth defeats 5 legionaries.
310 Corinth captured. Argos spearman defeats 3 legionaries.
Rome just grew to size 10 and needs to be MMed or it will go into disorder. I remeber someone asking something about disorder, and LKendter saying you have a turn to notice it before the city goes into disorder, so I left it as an example. We can proabably take both greece and england out, and claim this whole continent to ourselves. I would love to take out london, it has the great library, and I have a feeling that we are a bit behind in tech compared to the other continent. Maybe not, but with America already having completed the Hanging Gardens, I think so.
LK33-shdwlord-310AD.zip
LK, I would suggest the next round be 14 turns, just to get us on the best year to do 10 turns for the rest of the game. From now on, when the number of years shorten in the game, they will always do it starting with a year that ends in 50, eg, before 1750 turns are 5 years, starting at 1750 years become 2 years, so we would play from 1700 to 1750, then 1750 to 1770.Anyway, here is my hastily played game, I probably could have conducted the wars a bit better with a little more patience.
IT: increase science to 50%, -8 gpt construction now in 7 instead of 10. We have a strong military compared to both England and Greece. Neither Greece or England are willing to ally against the other right now. Rome changed to Legionary. Sells granary. Cumae switched from courthouse to legionary (was only losing 1 shield out of 5). Neapolis cancels construction of granary, switches to legionary. Pompeii sells granary. Pisae switched from courthouse to library (only losing 2 shields out of 7). Lugdunum MMed to pull city worker out of the water and onto the spice, but added commerce/shields all lost to corruption. Paris switched from legionary to walls.
10BC Viroconium completes spearman, begins worker since it has 0 growth. Rheims autorazed, and we get a GL. Too bad, I was planning on using him for the FP in Rheims when I saw him produced. Instead build an army in Paris.
70 AD Lyons is autorazed.
110 AD research on feudalism began.
150 AD Syracuse founded on island to the SE, settler lands on the land to the East of that. Syracuse begins settler.
170 AD Orleans autorazed by our army, and the french are no more. Caesaraugusta founded, begins settler to colonize this new land.
Greece tells us to leave their land, we say goodbye.
190 AD Argos spearman defeats the first of our Legionaries, but gave his life against the second, and Argos is autorazed. Warrior defending a settler takes half of our armies health before dying.
250 Ephesus spearman holds off 3 legionaries.
260 AD Greek settler captured.
270 Mycenae captured. Athens and the Oracle are ours, at the cost of 3 legionaries.
The Americans have completed the hanging gardens in washington.
280 Our golden age has ended
290 Veii switched to palace as placeholder.
300 Super Spearman in Corinth defeats 5 legionaries.
310 Corinth captured. Argos spearman defeats 3 legionaries.
Rome just grew to size 10 and needs to be MMed or it will go into disorder. I remeber someone asking something about disorder, and LKendter saying you have a turn to notice it before the city goes into disorder, so I left it as an example. We can proabably take both greece and england out, and claim this whole continent to ourselves. I would love to take out london, it has the great library, and I have a feeling that we are a bit behind in tech compared to the other continent. Maybe not, but with America already having completed the Hanging Gardens, I think so.
LK33-shdwlord-310AD.zip
ControlFreak
Not An Addict, Really
Micromanagement and continuity of strategy suffered a little from trying to get the turns in before the extension was announced.
There were some good things and some bad things. Heres the turnlog:
IT 30BC-change lugdunum and byzantium to temples per LK. Change pompeii to barrack from granary now that weve got the great pyramid. Switch Virconiums spear to settler and rush for 48g due next turn. Hopefully we can grab the Iron in the mountains before Liz or Alex get there. (Liz landed in my game last round.) If not, head for the shore and hitch a ride on the galley, not much lost. Better yet, get on galley anyway to get there faster. All the other spears I leave assuming we need the defense. Construction ok, leave at 40% due in 10 turns. Lux at 10%. +10gpt.
Activate all workers in S of veii. Those tiles cant be used til construction +aquaduct. Priorities are clear ant. jungle and road to pisae/Thermopylae. Some workers will build mine on clear road N of Pompeiis lagoon, we're currently working that unimproved tile. Theres a bunch of worker projects started that are not my first priority but I don't want to waste all the turns they put in so I let them finish and try to get them to my priorities as fast as possible. Road To Ravenna from Rome still not finished so settlers take a 5 turn detour through antium when headed south. Really want road to connect southern cities so I can drop the lux tax.
Greeks sending spears+settler north to desert. Will try to diplo Get OUT but if not run blockade? Is it dishonorable to block with workers. Definitely if they're French slaves. But if its a worker train and greece gets caught at the crossing gates for a while, who will really know. Come to think of it, a galley blockade would be great outside Neapolis too.
1) 10BC-Antium, Pompeii blt legionary, ord same. Neapolis blt granary ord galley for blockade. Viroconium blt settler, ord spear. Someone's Iron just appeared in the hills by Veii, bonus! Stack of legions wakened and moved from Paris toward next conquest. Slaves moved to borders on their way to Pisae, acting as a freight train
. Legion by furs takes detour towards Orleans to help join the train. No need to tell Alex to get out yet. Farthest Legion within reach attacks french warrior N of Paris and becomes elite. 2 workers sent to road tile NW of Pomeii for mining. 3 to Jungle NE of Pisae, remaining join pompeiis partial clearing before heading to Antium. Legions south will go to Thermoply for attack on Oreleans if necessary. Viro Settler heads to hill by fish. Pompeii switched to galley due in 3 to help relocate settlers, Rome settler due in 1. Thermoply entertainer changed to taxman. Same for Paris.
2) 10AD-French send archer from Lyons. Greek settler veers NW and heads to gap in borders S of Paris. Could be heading for Iron NW of Paris too. Greeks dont have Iron yet. Rome blt settler switches to worker factory for a bit. Pisae blt courthouse, start temple. Legionary dispatches pitiful archer. Rheims taken, lost 1 legionar to 3 spears. As the walls come crumbling down I realize how smart Greece has been and how Stupid I have been. Large gap opens as Rheims is razed (pop of 1, no choice). Need to get some settlers up here before Orleans goes. Romes settler headed to Paris. Captured workers to paris to wait for settler. Legions shoulder to shoulder to ward off greek settlers in mountians until Rheims rebuilt.
3) 30AD-French warrior comes north from orleans. Veii blt legionary, ord same. Sci 30/20 for hispalis happiness. Must finish road soon to bring lux here. Rome blt worker, damn, wanted to go back to settlers. Oh well, extra worker helps too. Veii legionary, ord same. Antium lost pop to disease. Rome worker sent to clear jungle in Ant. Pisae MM to grow. Workers start clearing N. Elite legion sent to paris for heal. All rest form blockade on mtns. Unit cost is starting to hurt. 43gpt. Orange border appears in S, Iron is their 2nd radius. Trade territory map for Liz TM and Alex WM +1g. Dover on silks on coast SE of Iron. Still room for one more if we hurry.
4) 50AD Disease again! Ant blt legionary order spear. France almost dead and legions dont upgrade. Pompeei blt galley, start marketplace. Hispalis blt court, start market. Nea blt galley ord galley. Elite kills french warrior but no leader. Lots of goto moves in progress. Neapolis' new galley starts blockade S of town. More moves. Pom galley ignores barb and heads to rome.
5) 70AD-Barb galley attacks and sinks. More moves. Realize workers could start road to Oreleans to help troop movement, "Getup slave, come with me!"
6) 90 AD Veii blt legionary, start market. Continue movement toward Orleans, while keeping shoulder to shoulder on mtns, waiting for Settler. Warrior sees hut on east island. Hire Hispalis entertainer since 6th worker only gets food and cant grow past 6 anyway. Viro Settler board galley for ride past Greek,English peninsula.
7) 110AD- French request audience, Joan wants peace. They wont give up Lyons so <Soup-Nazi voice of Seinfeld>No peace for you</SNVOS>. Rome blt settler, ord galley to wait for pop get back up. Must have not MM for food. Ant spear, ord horse. Nea. blt galley, ord galley. Ravena blt spear, ord worker. Spear sent to Virconium. Galleys start going 2 turns into sea on their travels S. Realize there's coast NE of Rome but need to suicide to reach it. Hut gives a horseman. Settler waits in Brundsium for galley next turn.
It was late so I save my game. Getting back into it I say WTH! I'm building markets in two of my key military producing cities. Pompeii and Veii. I'm at war! I don't even have enough troops to attack Lyons. It must have been very late last night. Market in Hispalis is Ok as road will be done soon and 6 citizens needs lots of happiness. Also Galleys aren't blocking choke point until they're at the Byzantium cross over.
veii, pompeii to legionary lose 6 sheilds. Sci 30/10 construction in 5 -3gpt. Tell Alex to Get out. Trade TMs.
8) 130AD-Greeks ignored me and kept walking. Let them go, We're coming for them next. Found Syracuse on old Rheims site, ord temple. Found Caesaraugustus by Fish. Lots of overlap here including with greece. Workers moved to pompeii stack. Legions approach Lyons or Orleans, whichever is closer. Fire entertainer in Hispalis.
9) 150AD-Veii blt legionary, ord horseman. Continue as above. Island fully explored. Fortified legions waiting for attack on Orleans.
10) 170AD-Rome blt galley start settler. Neapolis finish galley, start library to improve our research and add culture pressure to greece. Probably will change this. Pompeii finish legion start horseman. Ravenna finish worker starts barracks. Clear more jungle. Galley attempts suicide run from Rome. Galley 1 turn from Settle near Dover. Alex got Construction, we'll get it next turn.
11) 190AD-Construction done, feudalism ord, new age begins. Ant blt horse, ord horse. Cumae blt worker ord spear. Lutia blt spear ord harbor. Galley sinks. Kill archer. Lots of typical moves. Settler moves to hill by Iron. Found next turn.
12) 210AD-Veii blt horse ord settler. Pompeii blt horse start great lighthouse, that extra galley move can get across sea NE of Rome. Hastings only has three civ and little growth. Could use extra galley move. Start attack on Orleans, found Palmyra, ord temple. Orleans capture and NOT razed. Why was I waiting for a settler? Start temple. Attack Lyons. taken with loss of one legion, razed. French are no more. We're at peace. Fan out remaining troops to search desert. Antium changed to spear. Nea. changed to market.
13) 230AD-Resistance ends in Orleans. Pisae blt temple, ord Market. Hispalis blt market start aquaduct. Workers start new mines. Settler sent to Desert fish. Legions sent to Paris, Syracuse and Veii. Neapolis changed to library. Theres a lot of trade along the river. This should help reasearch and add culture pressure.
14) 250AD-Rome blt settler, ord settler. Orleans disorder. Joan whipped here and civ still remembers. Hire scientist. Ant blt spear ord spear. Sent to Neapolis. Settler sent to Lutia for ride on ferry. Change Rome to worker factory. We need more roads. 30/10 feudalism in 17 -4gpt.
15) 260AD-Rome blt worker, ord galley to let population recover to 6. Veii blt settler, ord library, lots of gold from furs and good size potential. Cumae blt spear ord aquaduct to let pop recover. Ravenna blt barracks, ord harbor. English start Great wall. Move galleys at sea crossing to SW corner. More effective here, only need 2 galleys on corner to force 3 turns in Sea tiles to go around.
16) 270AD-Ant blt spear, ord spear, sent to Hispalis. Virconium blt spear, sent to Caesaragustus, order wrkr. Jerusalem founded on Island with bg, horse and fish, ord temple. Galley with horseman aboard gos to next land E. Virconium and Byzantium hire sci. Lux tax would go to high to fix this. Note that Byzantium will starve in 10 turns if scientist doesn't work. Paris sci fired.
17) 280AD-Nea blt library, ord worker. AMERICANS complete hanging garden. Move settlers towards Desert Pennisula. Land Horse on E land. Explore. Galleys create blockade but English galley has slipped past before in place.
18) 290AD-End of golden age. Brundsium disorder. Damnit. hire scientist for now. min Sci dropped to 0/10 fued in 33 with 2 scientists! Disband a few legions in Orleans to reduce overhead and help with temple. Some warriors disbanded but most are the only unit in outlying towns. Need to start rotating units and getting rid of excess. What am I doing wrong trying to gain wealth?
19) 300AD-Ant and Viro blt spear, worker, ord spears. Order restore in brund, blt spear, ord worker. Ant spear to Rome. Viros workers start road before mine to bring lux and get rid of specialist. Caesarea founded on old Lyons spot, ord spear. Looks like Next Island is fertile and empty also. Trade maps: TM for WM +1g
20) 310AD-Rome blt galley, ord settler. Finish exploring E Island.
Unlike shdwlord, I opted for peacetime and infrastructure building. Librarys in the bigger cities, markets in the midsize cities, temples on the borders. Settlers still heading for E Islands. The Great Lighthouse started and will beat Hastings but I don't know about the other two civs. If we get it, Rome coastline won't be a suicide run anymore. First city on island, more to come. Workers starting to free us from the jungle. Hispalis might be a good spot for FP, with later palace move when we start conquering greece and england.
Having problems raising cash. I know we have a lot of units but don't really want to disband them all. Suggestions are welcome.
I like shdwlords goal of easy time points. Hope I can get 14 turns in without rushing .
LK33-ControlFreak-310AD.zip
There were some good things and some bad things. Heres the turnlog:
IT 30BC-change lugdunum and byzantium to temples per LK. Change pompeii to barrack from granary now that weve got the great pyramid. Switch Virconiums spear to settler and rush for 48g due next turn. Hopefully we can grab the Iron in the mountains before Liz or Alex get there. (Liz landed in my game last round.) If not, head for the shore and hitch a ride on the galley, not much lost. Better yet, get on galley anyway to get there faster. All the other spears I leave assuming we need the defense. Construction ok, leave at 40% due in 10 turns. Lux at 10%. +10gpt.
Activate all workers in S of veii. Those tiles cant be used til construction +aquaduct. Priorities are clear ant. jungle and road to pisae/Thermopylae. Some workers will build mine on clear road N of Pompeiis lagoon, we're currently working that unimproved tile. Theres a bunch of worker projects started that are not my first priority but I don't want to waste all the turns they put in so I let them finish and try to get them to my priorities as fast as possible. Road To Ravenna from Rome still not finished so settlers take a 5 turn detour through antium when headed south. Really want road to connect southern cities so I can drop the lux tax.
Greeks sending spears+settler north to desert. Will try to diplo Get OUT but if not run blockade? Is it dishonorable to block with workers. Definitely if they're French slaves. But if its a worker train and greece gets caught at the crossing gates for a while, who will really know. Come to think of it, a galley blockade would be great outside Neapolis too.
1) 10BC-Antium, Pompeii blt legionary, ord same. Neapolis blt granary ord galley for blockade. Viroconium blt settler, ord spear. Someone's Iron just appeared in the hills by Veii, bonus! Stack of legions wakened and moved from Paris toward next conquest. Slaves moved to borders on their way to Pisae, acting as a freight train
. Legion by furs takes detour towards Orleans to help join the train. No need to tell Alex to get out yet. Farthest Legion within reach attacks french warrior N of Paris and becomes elite. 2 workers sent to road tile NW of Pomeii for mining. 3 to Jungle NE of Pisae, remaining join pompeiis partial clearing before heading to Antium. Legions south will go to Thermoply for attack on Oreleans if necessary. Viro Settler heads to hill by fish. Pompeii switched to galley due in 3 to help relocate settlers, Rome settler due in 1. Thermoply entertainer changed to taxman. Same for Paris.2) 10AD-French send archer from Lyons. Greek settler veers NW and heads to gap in borders S of Paris. Could be heading for Iron NW of Paris too. Greeks dont have Iron yet. Rome blt settler switches to worker factory for a bit. Pisae blt courthouse, start temple. Legionary dispatches pitiful archer. Rheims taken, lost 1 legionar to 3 spears. As the walls come crumbling down I realize how smart Greece has been and how Stupid I have been. Large gap opens as Rheims is razed (pop of 1, no choice). Need to get some settlers up here before Orleans goes. Romes settler headed to Paris. Captured workers to paris to wait for settler. Legions shoulder to shoulder to ward off greek settlers in mountians until Rheims rebuilt.
3) 30AD-French warrior comes north from orleans. Veii blt legionary, ord same. Sci 30/20 for hispalis happiness. Must finish road soon to bring lux here. Rome blt worker, damn, wanted to go back to settlers. Oh well, extra worker helps too. Veii legionary, ord same. Antium lost pop to disease. Rome worker sent to clear jungle in Ant. Pisae MM to grow. Workers start clearing N. Elite legion sent to paris for heal. All rest form blockade on mtns. Unit cost is starting to hurt. 43gpt. Orange border appears in S, Iron is their 2nd radius. Trade territory map for Liz TM and Alex WM +1g. Dover on silks on coast SE of Iron. Still room for one more if we hurry.
4) 50AD Disease again! Ant blt legionary order spear. France almost dead and legions dont upgrade. Pompeei blt galley, start marketplace. Hispalis blt court, start market. Nea blt galley ord galley. Elite kills french warrior but no leader. Lots of goto moves in progress. Neapolis' new galley starts blockade S of town. More moves. Pom galley ignores barb and heads to rome.
5) 70AD-Barb galley attacks and sinks. More moves. Realize workers could start road to Oreleans to help troop movement, "Getup slave, come with me!"
6) 90 AD Veii blt legionary, start market. Continue movement toward Orleans, while keeping shoulder to shoulder on mtns, waiting for Settler. Warrior sees hut on east island. Hire Hispalis entertainer since 6th worker only gets food and cant grow past 6 anyway. Viro Settler board galley for ride past Greek,English peninsula.
7) 110AD- French request audience, Joan wants peace. They wont give up Lyons so <Soup-Nazi voice of Seinfeld>No peace for you</SNVOS>. Rome blt settler, ord galley to wait for pop get back up. Must have not MM for food. Ant spear, ord horse. Nea. blt galley, ord galley. Ravena blt spear, ord worker. Spear sent to Virconium. Galleys start going 2 turns into sea on their travels S. Realize there's coast NE of Rome but need to suicide to reach it. Hut gives a horseman. Settler waits in Brundsium for galley next turn.
It was late so I save my game. Getting back into it I say WTH! I'm building markets in two of my key military producing cities. Pompeii and Veii. I'm at war! I don't even have enough troops to attack Lyons. It must have been very late last night. Market in Hispalis is Ok as road will be done soon and 6 citizens needs lots of happiness. Also Galleys aren't blocking choke point until they're at the Byzantium cross over.
veii, pompeii to legionary lose 6 sheilds. Sci 30/10 construction in 5 -3gpt. Tell Alex to Get out. Trade TMs.
8) 130AD-Greeks ignored me and kept walking. Let them go, We're coming for them next. Found Syracuse on old Rheims site, ord temple. Found Caesaraugustus by Fish. Lots of overlap here including with greece. Workers moved to pompeii stack. Legions approach Lyons or Orleans, whichever is closer. Fire entertainer in Hispalis.
9) 150AD-Veii blt legionary, ord horseman. Continue as above. Island fully explored. Fortified legions waiting for attack on Orleans.
10) 170AD-Rome blt galley start settler. Neapolis finish galley, start library to improve our research and add culture pressure to greece. Probably will change this. Pompeii finish legion start horseman. Ravenna finish worker starts barracks. Clear more jungle. Galley attempts suicide run from Rome. Galley 1 turn from Settle near Dover. Alex got Construction, we'll get it next turn.
11) 190AD-Construction done, feudalism ord, new age begins. Ant blt horse, ord horse. Cumae blt worker ord spear. Lutia blt spear ord harbor. Galley sinks.
Kill archer. Lots of typical moves. Settler moves to hill by Iron. Found next turn.12) 210AD-Veii blt horse ord settler. Pompeii blt horse start great lighthouse, that extra galley move can get across sea NE of Rome. Hastings only has three civ and little growth. Could use extra galley move. Start attack on Orleans, found Palmyra, ord temple. Orleans capture and NOT razed. Why was I waiting for a settler? Start temple. Attack Lyons. taken with loss of one legion, razed. French are no more. We're at peace. Fan out remaining troops to search desert. Antium changed to spear. Nea. changed to market.
13) 230AD-Resistance ends in Orleans. Pisae blt temple, ord Market. Hispalis blt market start aquaduct. Workers start new mines. Settler sent to Desert fish. Legions sent to Paris, Syracuse and Veii. Neapolis changed to library. Theres a lot of trade along the river. This should help reasearch and add culture pressure.
14) 250AD-Rome blt settler, ord settler. Orleans disorder.
Joan whipped here and civ still remembers. Hire scientist. Ant blt spear ord spear. Sent to Neapolis. Settler sent to Lutia for ride on ferry. Change Rome to worker factory. We need more roads. 30/10 feudalism in 17 -4gpt.15) 260AD-Rome blt worker, ord galley to let population recover to 6. Veii blt settler, ord library, lots of gold from furs and good size potential. Cumae blt spear ord aquaduct to let pop recover. Ravenna blt barracks, ord harbor. English start Great wall. Move galleys at sea crossing to SW corner. More effective here, only need 2 galleys on corner to force 3 turns in Sea tiles to go around.
16) 270AD-Ant blt spear, ord spear, sent to Hispalis. Virconium blt spear, sent to Caesaragustus, order wrkr. Jerusalem founded on Island with bg, horse and fish, ord temple. Galley with horseman aboard gos to next land E. Virconium and Byzantium hire sci. Lux tax would go to high to fix this. Note that Byzantium will starve in 10 turns if scientist doesn't work. Paris sci fired.
17) 280AD-Nea blt library, ord worker. AMERICANS complete hanging garden. Move settlers towards Desert Pennisula. Land Horse on E land. Explore. Galleys create blockade but English galley has slipped past before in place.
18) 290AD-End of golden age. Brundsium disorder. Damnit. hire scientist for now. min Sci dropped to 0/10 fued in 33 with 2 scientists! Disband a few legions in Orleans to reduce overhead and help with temple. Some warriors disbanded but most are the only unit in outlying towns. Need to start rotating units and getting rid of excess. What am I doing wrong trying to gain wealth?
19) 300AD-Ant and Viro blt spear, worker, ord spears. Order restore in brund, blt spear, ord worker. Ant spear to Rome. Viros workers start road before mine to bring lux and get rid of specialist. Caesarea founded on old Lyons spot, ord spear. Looks like Next Island is fertile and empty also. Trade maps: TM for WM +1g
20) 310AD-Rome blt galley, ord settler. Finish exploring E Island.
Unlike shdwlord, I opted for peacetime and infrastructure building. Librarys in the bigger cities, markets in the midsize cities, temples on the borders. Settlers still heading for E Islands. The Great Lighthouse started and will beat Hastings but I don't know about the other two civs. If we get it, Rome coastline won't be a suicide run anymore. First city on island, more to come. Workers starting to free us from the jungle. Hispalis might be a good spot for FP, with later palace move when we start conquering greece and england.
Having problems raising cash. I know we have a lot of units but don't really want to disband them all. Suggestions are welcome.
I like shdwlords goal of easy time points. Hope I can get 14 turns in without rushing
.LK33-ControlFreak-310AD.zip
Hey LKendter
I just finished reading up to the last round of games and thought I'd have a go to see how I'd fare. I played the 20 turns from your last save in the other thread and have just finshed playing and writing the turn report.
I'll post the report and saved game shortly.
Zenga
I just finished reading up to the last round of games and thought I'd have a go to see how I'd fare. I played the 20 turns from your last save in the other thread and have just finshed playing and writing the turn report.
I'll post the report and saved game shortly.
Zenga
Well, this was quite some game to pick up. I took a good while to get my bearings before deciding on any moves, then played as follows:
30BC(0)
Switch Paris entertainer>taxman, Lugdunum spear>worker, Byzantium spear>worker, Virconium ent>tax, Thermopylae ent+citizen>tax (shortage - no extra shields or gold from farming, decide to starve to 1 and take gold until then), Antium upgrade vet warrior>legion.
10BC(1)
Virconium makes spear, start worker. Pompeii legion, legion. Antium legion, legion.
Switch Rome settler>temple, keep granary for now. Neapolis granary>library. Move 4 legion to mountain outside Rheims.
10AD(2)
Pisae makes courthouse, start temple.
Vet legion attacks reg spear and wins, 2nd vet legion attacks reg spear and wins>elite, elite legion attacks reg spear and wins - Rheims destroyed. Greek settler/hoplite pair in area near spices, decide to use a captured worker for a colony in meantime to see if luxury tax can be lifted (no!). Need settler, switch Antium legion>settler.
Check with Liz and Alex (both now cautious after auto-raze), trade TMs with Liz, TM for WM with Alex. France wants peace but can't afford it.
30AD(3)
Veii makes legion, start library.Move 2 legion towards Lyons. Defeat warrior near Paris and one coming from Orleans.
Liz now annoyed (gift her TM), Alex still cautious (gift TM)
50AD(4)
Antium makes settler, starts temple. Pompeii legion, courthouse. Hispalis court, temple.
Legions destroy Lyons. France has one size 1 city in jungle surrounded by other civs. Decide to make peace, they only had 9 gold but they're going nowhere.
70AD(5)
Rome makes temple, start library, sell granary. Pompeii, sell granary.Paris switch taxman>irrigated grass (grows in 7), switch legion>temple in build.
90AD(6)
Virconium makes worker, start court. Byzantium worker, harbour (worker roads grass then harvests forest to hurry harbour). Warrior on SE isle pops hut and gets barbs.
110AD(7)
Warrior wins and is elite. Neapolis makes library, start settler. Ravenna spear, temple. Lugdunum worker, temple (worker harvests forest silks then roads to Byzantium). Switch Brundisium spear>worker (due in 1).
Greeks settle near spice colony. Moved settler near other spice. Move legion from colony and harrass another settler/hoplite pair.
Reduce science>30% (Construction in 3), +9gpt. Liz and Alex still pissed off and stay that way for the rest of my turns.
130AD(8)
Hispalis riots due to growth and no spice, set taxman. Brundisium makes worker, start temple.Switch Lutetia to court. Settle Syracuse on SE isle, start harbour.
Construction in 1, reduce science. Greece has it for WM + 35g, declined.
150AD(9)
Construction finished. Start Feudalism, 40% science, +3gpt (14 turns). Veii makes library, start settler. Cumae court, library.
Found Caesaraugusta, desert near Paris on N coast (Greek settler pair turns around), start worker . Found Palmyra in jungle near 2nd spice south of Paris, start worker.
Greeks have Monotheism, will not trade and don't by end of turns.
170AD(10)
Neapolis makes settler, start harbour. Pompeii court, library. 145g in treasury, up science>50% at -13gpt (9 turns).
190AD(11)
Hispalis makes temple, start settler, taxman>grass (grow in 5).
210AD(12)
Rome makes library, start GLH (English building it already). Veii settler, market. Antium temple, court. Pisae temple, library. Greeks building the Great wall.
Trade Liz TM for TM + 2g. English have city (Dover) in south of continent near iron.
230AD(13)
Jerusalem founded on site of Lyons, start temple.
250AD(14)
Neapolis makes harbour, start galley. Hispalis settler, library.
260AD(15)
England building Great wall.
270AD(16)
Pompeii makes library, start colosseum (need spices and silks online soon!).
280AD(17)
Neapolis makes galley, start colosseum, assign entertainer. Caesaraugusta worker, temple - worker set to road jungle spice before clearing. Palmyra worker, temple. Americans build Hanging Gardens.
Science reduced to 40% ( Feudalism in 1), +11gpt.
290AD(18)
Golden Age ends.Never got Feudalism! Still due in 1, science dropped again to 20%, +11gpt.
Rome riots, assign entertainer and taxman.
300AD(19)
Feudalism! Start Engineering at 30%, -1gpt (22 turns). Thermopylae riots after growth, assign taxman. Land settler on 1st isle SE.
Look for buyers for Feudalism, no deals happening.
310AD(20)
Land settler on 2nd isle SE. Settler on 1st isle SE in Syracuse. Assign taxman in Paris.
End of turn
Diplomacy
England (annoyed)- only offer WM + 16g for Feudalism.
Greece (cautious) - offer WM, 23g + 2gpt for Feudalism.
France (furious) - 0g, 1 city, no Maths, Code of Laws or Lit.
Have not traded WM to anyone, no trade route to Greece and England.
Treasury
82g, +8gpt.
Research
Engineering in 18 turns.
I held back in destroying France for a couple of reasons. First I forgot about the auto-raze of size 1 cities and thought it might effect relations with Liz and Alex even more, it made no difference. Second, at the time they would have been taken out there were a lot of Greek settlers on the prowl and I figured they would just settle there. As it turns out, that would probably have been for the best, since they ended up settling near the only roaded spice. France are basically land-locked and can be taken out at will, the city is now size 2 and will save building a settler for the area.
Larger cities (size 6 and above) are flirting with rioting and needed a lot of watching. For this reason I never started any aqueducts.
No deals were made in the last turn.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/lk33-zenga-310ad.zip
Edit: Not sure if the file uploaded OK.
30BC(0)
Switch Paris entertainer>taxman, Lugdunum spear>worker, Byzantium spear>worker, Virconium ent>tax, Thermopylae ent+citizen>tax (shortage - no extra shields or gold from farming, decide to starve to 1 and take gold until then), Antium upgrade vet warrior>legion.
10BC(1)
Virconium makes spear, start worker. Pompeii legion, legion. Antium legion, legion.
Switch Rome settler>temple, keep granary for now. Neapolis granary>library. Move 4 legion to mountain outside Rheims.
10AD(2)
Pisae makes courthouse, start temple.
Vet legion attacks reg spear and wins, 2nd vet legion attacks reg spear and wins>elite, elite legion attacks reg spear and wins - Rheims destroyed. Greek settler/hoplite pair in area near spices, decide to use a captured worker for a colony in meantime to see if luxury tax can be lifted (no!). Need settler, switch Antium legion>settler.
Check with Liz and Alex (both now cautious after auto-raze), trade TMs with Liz, TM for WM with Alex. France wants peace but can't afford it.
30AD(3)
Veii makes legion, start library.Move 2 legion towards Lyons. Defeat warrior near Paris and one coming from Orleans.
Liz now annoyed (gift her TM), Alex still cautious (gift TM)
50AD(4)
Antium makes settler, starts temple. Pompeii legion, courthouse. Hispalis court, temple.
Legions destroy Lyons. France has one size 1 city in jungle surrounded by other civs. Decide to make peace, they only had 9 gold but they're going nowhere.
70AD(5)
Rome makes temple, start library, sell granary. Pompeii, sell granary.Paris switch taxman>irrigated grass (grows in 7), switch legion>temple in build.
90AD(6)
Virconium makes worker, start court. Byzantium worker, harbour (worker roads grass then harvests forest to hurry harbour). Warrior on SE isle pops hut and gets barbs.
110AD(7)
Warrior wins and is elite. Neapolis makes library, start settler. Ravenna spear, temple. Lugdunum worker, temple (worker harvests forest silks then roads to Byzantium). Switch Brundisium spear>worker (due in 1).
Greeks settle near spice colony. Moved settler near other spice. Move legion from colony and harrass another settler/hoplite pair.
Reduce science>30% (Construction in 3), +9gpt. Liz and Alex still pissed off and stay that way for the rest of my turns.
130AD(8)
Hispalis riots due to growth and no spice, set taxman. Brundisium makes worker, start temple.Switch Lutetia to court. Settle Syracuse on SE isle, start harbour.
Construction in 1, reduce science. Greece has it for WM + 35g, declined.
150AD(9)
Construction finished. Start Feudalism, 40% science, +3gpt (14 turns). Veii makes library, start settler. Cumae court, library.
Found Caesaraugusta, desert near Paris on N coast (Greek settler pair turns around), start worker . Found Palmyra in jungle near 2nd spice south of Paris, start worker.
Greeks have Monotheism, will not trade and don't by end of turns.
170AD(10)
Neapolis makes settler, start harbour. Pompeii court, library. 145g in treasury, up science>50% at -13gpt (9 turns).
190AD(11)
Hispalis makes temple, start settler, taxman>grass (grow in 5).
210AD(12)
Rome makes library, start GLH (English building it already). Veii settler, market. Antium temple, court. Pisae temple, library. Greeks building the Great wall.
Trade Liz TM for TM + 2g. English have city (Dover) in south of continent near iron.
230AD(13)
Jerusalem founded on site of Lyons, start temple.
250AD(14)
Neapolis makes harbour, start galley. Hispalis settler, library.
260AD(15)
England building Great wall.
270AD(16)
Pompeii makes library, start colosseum (need spices and silks online soon!).
280AD(17)
Neapolis makes galley, start colosseum, assign entertainer. Caesaraugusta worker, temple - worker set to road jungle spice before clearing. Palmyra worker, temple. Americans build Hanging Gardens.
Science reduced to 40% ( Feudalism in 1), +11gpt.
290AD(18)
Golden Age ends.Never got Feudalism! Still due in 1, science dropped again to 20%, +11gpt.
Rome riots, assign entertainer and taxman.
300AD(19)
Feudalism! Start Engineering at 30%, -1gpt (22 turns). Thermopylae riots after growth, assign taxman. Land settler on 1st isle SE.
Look for buyers for Feudalism, no deals happening.
310AD(20)
Land settler on 2nd isle SE. Settler on 1st isle SE in Syracuse. Assign taxman in Paris.
End of turn
Diplomacy
England (annoyed)- only offer WM + 16g for Feudalism.
Greece (cautious) - offer WM, 23g + 2gpt for Feudalism.
France (furious) - 0g, 1 city, no Maths, Code of Laws or Lit.
Have not traded WM to anyone, no trade route to Greece and England.
Treasury
82g, +8gpt.
Research
Engineering in 18 turns.
I held back in destroying France for a couple of reasons. First I forgot about the auto-raze of size 1 cities and thought it might effect relations with Liz and Alex even more, it made no difference. Second, at the time they would have been taken out there were a lot of Greek settlers on the prowl and I figured they would just settle there. As it turns out, that would probably have been for the best, since they ended up settling near the only roaded spice. France are basically land-locked and can be taken out at will, the city is now size 2 and will save building a settler for the area.
Larger cities (size 6 and above) are flirting with rioting and needed a lot of watching. For this reason I never started any aqueducts.
No deals were made in the last turn.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/lk33-zenga-310ad.zip
Edit: Not sure if the file uploaded OK.
hotrod0823
Deity
LK33 from 30 BC
30 BC (0): Change Neapolis from Granary to Barracks, due in 1. Attack warrior in the mountains with reg legionary, upgrade to vet. Change Ravenna to baracks. Upgrade vet warrior to legionary in Antium for 40 gold.
10 BC (1): Antium completes legionary start another, Neapolis builds barracks start spearman. Vironconium builds spear start temple. Move some legions around for attack in the next few turns.
10 AD (2): Rome builds settler starts on worker. Pisae completes courthouse start on temple. Move 4 legions to attack Rheims next turn.
30 aD (3): Rome builds worker starts barraks. Neapolis builds spear starts another. Hispalis revolts, missed it hire tax man. Attack Rheims with 4 legionary, kill only 2 of the 3 spears and lose 2 vet legionary.. Galley with settler in tow on the way to the lands to the east.
50 AD (4): Destroy Lyons, and kill 2 more spears at Rheims without any loses but heavy damage, 2 more legion are elite.
Disease stricks Antium.
70 aD (5): Hispalis builds courthouse start temple. Forced to retreat from Rheims, moving more settlers and workers around.
90 AD (6): lots of legionary movement, settler arrives on the Eastern Island.
110 AD (7): Ravenna builds barracks and start spear. The legionary parade continues.
130 AD (8): my elite Legionary are restingup for future attack and hopefully a future army.
150 AD (9): Learn Construction start Feudalism, Rome builds settler start horseman. Cumae builds courthouse start library. Pop a hut on the island and release barbs.
170 AD (10): My warrior survives and promotes to elite., Found Syracuse in between all the food bonuses, and start harbor. My elites are rested and 5 head for Rheims.
190 AD (11): Take the last spear at Rheims, no leader, and no loses, get 2 new slaves and incence.
210 AD (12): Virconium start marketplace. Antium starts marketplace. Hispalis start marketplace. Greeks are building the great wall. Treking through the jungle toward orleans.
230 AD (13): Rome builds horsey start library. Ravena builds spear start galley. Veii is working on aqueduct. The mini stack moves closer to Orleans, the settlers arrive at the island to the east.
250 AD (14): Trade maps with Greece, France wants peace, Pisae builds temple start library. Have to hire taxman at Brundisim, gotta get them connected. Found Caesaragusta on the top of the island. Found Palmyra to the North in the old Lyons site.
260 AD (15): Will take Orleans next turn. Neopolis builds spearman starts library.
270 AD (16): First Elite legionary destroys the last spear and the French are history, looks like Greece is next.
280 AD (17): Washinton completes the hanging Gardens. Legion stack is siting outside of Athens boarder and looking ready for attack. After a few infacture buildings complete I recommend an quick assualt on Greece.
Our golden Age has ended.
290 AD (18): Adjust research to get feudalism in 8 turns. Some markets aqueducts and librarys are in the works.
300 AD (19): Lots of worker actions, Legion stack still within 3 moves of Athens.
310 AD (20): Rome revolts, change to marketplace and increase lux to 10%. Build Jeruslalem on the far eastern island.
Greeks have monotheism, no doubt from the era change, and English are on par with us. Neither have gold and I think after the few building projects continue the war is on with Greece.
Here is the save:
http://civfanatics.net/uploads2/LK33-HOTROD-310AD.zip
30 BC (0): Change Neapolis from Granary to Barracks, due in 1. Attack warrior in the mountains with reg legionary, upgrade to vet. Change Ravenna to baracks. Upgrade vet warrior to legionary in Antium for 40 gold.
10 BC (1): Antium completes legionary start another, Neapolis builds barracks start spearman. Vironconium builds spear start temple. Move some legions around for attack in the next few turns.
10 AD (2): Rome builds settler starts on worker. Pisae completes courthouse start on temple. Move 4 legions to attack Rheims next turn.
30 aD (3): Rome builds worker starts barraks. Neapolis builds spear starts another. Hispalis revolts, missed it hire tax man. Attack Rheims with 4 legionary, kill only 2 of the 3 spears and lose 2 vet legionary.
. Galley with settler in tow on the way to the lands to the east.50 AD (4): Destroy Lyons, and kill 2 more spears at Rheims without any loses but heavy damage, 2 more legion are elite.
Disease stricks Antium.
70 aD (5): Hispalis builds courthouse start temple. Forced to retreat from Rheims, moving more settlers and workers around.
90 AD (6): lots of legionary movement, settler arrives on the Eastern Island.
110 AD (7): Ravenna builds barracks and start spear. The legionary parade continues.
130 AD (8): my elite Legionary are restingup for future attack and hopefully a future army.
150 AD (9): Learn Construction start Feudalism, Rome builds settler start horseman. Cumae builds courthouse start library. Pop a hut on the island and release barbs
.170 AD (10): My warrior survives and promotes to elite., Found Syracuse in between all the food bonuses, and start harbor. My elites are rested and 5 head for Rheims.
190 AD (11): Take the last spear at Rheims, no leader, and no loses, get 2 new slaves and incence.
210 AD (12): Virconium start marketplace. Antium starts marketplace. Hispalis start marketplace. Greeks are building the great wall. Treking through the jungle toward orleans.
230 AD (13): Rome builds horsey start library. Ravena builds spear start galley. Veii is working on aqueduct. The mini stack moves closer to Orleans, the settlers arrive at the island to the east.
250 AD (14): Trade maps with Greece, France wants peace
, Pisae builds temple start library. Have to hire taxman at Brundisim, gotta get them connected. Found Caesaragusta on the top of the island. Found Palmyra to the North in the old Lyons site.260 AD (15): Will take Orleans next turn. Neopolis builds spearman starts library.
270 AD (16): First Elite legionary destroys the last spear and the French are history, looks like Greece is next.
280 AD (17): Washinton completes the hanging Gardens. Legion stack is siting outside of Athens boarder and looking ready for attack. After a few infacture buildings complete I recommend an quick assualt on Greece.
Our golden Age has ended.
290 AD (18): Adjust research to get feudalism in 8 turns. Some markets aqueducts and librarys are in the works.
300 AD (19): Lots of worker actions, Legion stack still within 3 moves of Athens.
310 AD (20): Rome revolts, change to marketplace and increase lux to 10%. Build Jeruslalem on the far eastern island.
Greeks have monotheism, no doubt from the era change, and English are on par with us. Neither have gold and I think after the few building projects continue the war is on with Greece.
Here is the save:
http://civfanatics.net/uploads2/LK33-HOTROD-310AD.zip
hotrod0823
Deity
LK 33 from 310AD - 450 AD
310 AD (0): Change Lutetia from harbor to temple. Wake 2 galleys to the south and send north for troop loading. Move spear from Hispalis toward the galley/settler pair. Change Brundisism from worker to temple. Move Cumae spear toward Hispalis. Change Neapolis to horseman. Move 2 horseys out of Paris toward Greek cities.
320 AD (1): Ceasaraugusta revolts. Settler/spear is in galley ready to ship out next turn. move Galleys back toward Neapolis for troop pickup. Shift Leigonary out of Veii, a spear is heading for protection.
330 AD (2): Continue shifting troop to take the greek workers next turn.
340 aD (3): Antium builds spear start legionary. Virconium builds worker starts temple. Declare war with Greece, then move in and take the workers/slaves. Build Tarentum in the desert fishy town. Increased research to 20%, feudalism in 18 +7 gpt. England is now annoyed and will enter into any alliance for WM and 80 gold I decline this war may not last that long.
350 AD (4): Rome builds settler starts another, Veii builds library start legionary. Thermo revolts but there are no unhappy people
. Neapolis builds horsey starts legionary. Ravenna builds harbor starts temple. Hurry spear in Palmyra for 32 gold. Englan beat our settler to wheat on the first isalnd . Destroy Argos. Destroy Epheus and promote horsey to elite. Gett 2 new slaves.
360 AD (5): Hispalis builds aqueduct starts temple. Palymra builds spear starts temple. Pillage athens furs, move settler boats toward island 2. move more legionary out of the jungles.
370 AD (6): Greek hop/settler pair head toward Syracuse, move out the workers. Continue move on Athens, kill a rouge archer and promote to elite.
380 AD (7): Continue legionary build up around Athens. Settler/spear pair arrives at city spot on the island. Alex will give up mucho cash for peace but decline I want a shot at Athens. Destroyed Myceana with a legionary and horsey.
390 AD (8): Found Nicomedia on the island to the east, Start harbor. Galley leaves with legionary onboard heading to athens. Legionary kills another archer and promotes to elite. Elite legionary kills an archer, no leaders (yet).
400 AD (9): Rome builds settler and starts another. Vet legionary kill hop and takes 2 slaves. Cumae builds Aqueduct and starts palace as place holder for sunZu. Greeks finish Great wall in Athens. Kill my 3rd settler/hop pair in as many turns.
410 AD (10): Continue to move legionary toward athens, move settler toward West. Galley heading with spear and settler to island 2.
420 aD (11): more movement.
430 AD (12): Paris revolts with 3 happy and 3 unhappy, temple was due next turn, I don't have to do anything to stop the revolt. Or at least it looks that way.
440 AD (13): Paris is happy, temple completes, start courthouse, Thermo, completes temples starts courthouse. Reinforcements arrive at Palmyra. 2 more legionary arrive near Athens.
450 AD (14): Hispalis builds temple starts library. Tarentum revolts, hire taxman. 6 Legionary are in position to attack Athens next turn. Increase research to get Feudalism in 4 with +1 gpt.
We have 197 gold, Feudalism in 4 with +1 gpt. England has nothing to trade. A few settlers are out and about. Athens may be ready to fall soon.
http://civfanatics.net/uploads2/LK33-HOTROD-450AD.zip
310 AD (0): Change Lutetia from harbor to temple. Wake 2 galleys to the south and send north for troop loading. Move spear from Hispalis toward the galley/settler pair. Change Brundisism from worker to temple. Move Cumae spear toward Hispalis. Change Neapolis to horseman. Move 2 horseys out of Paris toward Greek cities.
320 AD (1): Ceasaraugusta revolts
. Settler/spear is in galley ready to ship out next turn. move Galleys back toward Neapolis for troop pickup. Shift Leigonary out of Veii, a spear is heading for protection.330 AD (2): Continue shifting troop to take the greek workers next turn.
340 aD (3): Antium builds spear start legionary. Virconium builds worker starts temple. Declare war with Greece, then move in and take the workers/slaves. Build Tarentum in the desert fishy town. Increased research to 20%, feudalism in 18 +7 gpt. England is now annoyed and will enter into any alliance for WM and 80 gold I decline this war may not last that long.
350 AD (4): Rome builds settler starts another, Veii builds library start legionary. Thermo revolts but there are no unhappy people
. Neapolis builds horsey starts legionary. Ravenna builds harbor starts temple. Hurry spear in Palmyra for 32 gold. Englan beat our settler to wheat on the first isalnd . Destroy Argos. Destroy Epheus and promote horsey to elite. Gett 2 new slaves.360 AD (5): Hispalis builds aqueduct starts temple. Palymra builds spear starts temple. Pillage athens furs, move settler boats toward island 2. move more legionary out of the jungles.
370 AD (6): Greek hop/settler pair head toward Syracuse, move out the workers. Continue move on Athens, kill a rouge archer and promote to elite.
380 AD (7): Continue legionary build up around Athens. Settler/spear pair arrives at city spot on the island. Alex will give up mucho cash for peace but decline I want a shot at Athens. Destroyed Myceana with a legionary and horsey.
390 AD (8): Found Nicomedia on the island to the east, Start harbor. Galley leaves with legionary onboard heading to athens. Legionary kills another archer and promotes to elite. Elite legionary kills an archer, no leaders (yet).
400 AD (9): Rome builds settler and starts another. Vet legionary kill hop and takes 2 slaves. Cumae builds Aqueduct and starts palace as place holder for sunZu. Greeks finish Great wall in Athens. Kill my 3rd settler/hop pair in as many turns.
410 AD (10): Continue to move legionary toward athens, move settler toward West. Galley heading with spear and settler to island 2.
420 aD (11): more movement.
430 AD (12): Paris revolts with 3 happy and 3 unhappy
, temple was due next turn, I don't have to do anything to stop the revolt. Or at least it looks that way.440 AD (13): Paris is happy, temple completes, start courthouse, Thermo, completes temples starts courthouse. Reinforcements arrive at Palmyra. 2 more legionary arrive near Athens.
450 AD (14): Hispalis builds temple starts library. Tarentum revolts, hire taxman. 6 Legionary are in position to attack Athens next turn. Increase research to get Feudalism in 4 with +1 gpt.
We have 197 gold, Feudalism in 4 with +1 gpt. England has nothing to trade. A few settlers are out and about. Athens may be ready to fall soon.
http://civfanatics.net/uploads2/LK33-HOTROD-450AD.zip
310AD(0)
Reduce lux tax>0, up sci>30% at -2gpt (Feudalism in 15). Switch Hispalis from aqueduct to library (city will riot with increased pop and need more research help). Switch a couple of specialists to tax to balance budget. Switch Byzantium to harbour (need silks online).
320AD(1)
Switch Cumae aqueduct to library. Ravenna harbor to temple. Lots of troop movement into positions nearer Greek border. Lack of garrison in Palmyra will hold attack up for a few turns. Sell granaries in Rome and Pompeii. Upgrade warrior in Pompeii. .
330AD(2)
Barb galley sinks galley near Rome. Hispalis completes library, start settler. Neapolis spear, legion. Switch Pisae from market to library.
340AD(3)
Found Tarentum at N fish, start temple. Found Nicomedia on 2nd isle SE, start worker. Antium completes spear, start legion.
350AD(4)
Rome completes settler, start settler. English settle near wheat on 1st isle SE. Greek worker finishes road in jungle near Orleans (may as well get some free labour).
Declare war on Greeks. Attack warrior/settler pair near Ephesus with vet horse, horse promotes to elite, 2 workers taken. Take 2 workers near Argos and another 2 near Orleans (6 total in round).
360AD(5)
Thermopylae riots, assign taxman. Troops move into position to attack Argos, Ephesus and Athens. Rome settler goes to Veii for city replacement.
370AD(6)
Hispalis completes settler, start spear. Settler boards ship for new lands.
Lose 2 legion v hoplite defenders at Argos.
380AD(7)
Lose 2 legion v hoplite defenders at Athens, then 2 vet legion win and take city along with 1 worker (4 resistors). Legion defeats hoplite at Ephemus and reveals another defender, wait for support.
390AD(8)
Palmyra riots, set taxman. Antium completes legion, start legion. Veii legion, legion. Cumae library, legion.
Troops quell 2 resistors in Athens, starve city with tax. Spear outside Athens defends against archer and promotes to elite.
400AD(9)
Paris riots, set tax. Rome completes settler, start settler. Ravenna temple, settler. Brundisium worker, temple.
410AD(10)
Lutetia completes harbour, start worker. Upgrade warrior to legion. Troop movement to Corinth.
420AD(11)
Lose 2 legion at Corinth, elite horse retreats. Lose spear and Greek worker to archer near Athens. (Not a great round!)
430AD(12)
Retreat workers that were building road from Thermopylae to Athens. Move more troops to front line.
440AD(13)
Feudalism researched, start Engineering. Nicomedia completes worker, start harbour. Selucia founded on 2nd isle SE on hill, start worker. Troops head to Athens for healing.
450AD(14)
Paris completes temple, start legion. Rome settler, settler.
Take Ephesus with legion (was at size 2 now), 1 resistor. Leave garrison and move other troops towards Argos (also now size 2). Galley sunk by Greeks outside Byzantium. Settler still in Veii, can probably be moved along with troops into Greek lands.
End of turn.
War with Greece
There are 2 archers outside Athens border that can be taken. Troops heading for Argos then Athens. Some of the legion nearly ready were earmarked for the 2 Greek cities on southern peninsula.
Diplomacy
England (annoyed)- Trade route to England just opened. Only worthwhile deal is maybe for wines(WM + 13g).
Greece (furious) - Alex offers 34g + 6gpt for peace. Won't give Monotheism or cities, not worth it yet.
Have not traded WM.
Treasury
124g, +7gpt.
Research
Engineering in 14 turns at 40%.
No deals were made in the last turn.
I thought that after the last round I'd better check out the aims first and seeing that this included taking workers I probably attacked before I normally would in such a situation. As a result although 6 workers were gained I only took 2 cities and was looking anxiously at the southern peninsula where 2 cities were only protected by warriors.
Although Feudalism was researched, I never started Sun Tzu's (although a few turns could be saved by switching one of the city builds). I would have preferred to build in a river city but any population growth would have to be offset by luxury tax since none of the likely sites had both temple and market. The other option would have been to reduce the science rate, but with the other civs not yet discovered including scientific and industrious ones I didn't like this choice. The best bet looks like a market in Neapolis or Ravenna then Sun Tzu.
If I was playing a regular game I would probably only stay at war and take another couple of Greek cities (until they gave the tech) before concentrating on infrastructure and research for a while.
Oh, the GLH is due in 3!
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/lk33-zenga-450AD.zip
Reduce lux tax>0, up sci>30% at -2gpt (Feudalism in 15). Switch Hispalis from aqueduct to library (city will riot with increased pop and need more research help). Switch a couple of specialists to tax to balance budget. Switch Byzantium to harbour (need silks online).
320AD(1)
Switch Cumae aqueduct to library. Ravenna harbor to temple. Lots of troop movement into positions nearer Greek border. Lack of garrison in Palmyra will hold attack up for a few turns. Sell granaries in Rome and Pompeii. Upgrade warrior in Pompeii. .
330AD(2)
Barb galley sinks galley near Rome. Hispalis completes library, start settler. Neapolis spear, legion. Switch Pisae from market to library.
340AD(3)
Found Tarentum at N fish, start temple. Found Nicomedia on 2nd isle SE, start worker. Antium completes spear, start legion.
350AD(4)
Rome completes settler, start settler. English settle near wheat on 1st isle SE. Greek worker finishes road in jungle near Orleans (may as well get some free labour).
Declare war on Greeks. Attack warrior/settler pair near Ephesus with vet horse, horse promotes to elite, 2 workers taken. Take 2 workers near Argos and another 2 near Orleans (6 total in round).
360AD(5)
Thermopylae riots, assign taxman. Troops move into position to attack Argos, Ephesus and Athens. Rome settler goes to Veii for city replacement.
370AD(6)
Hispalis completes settler, start spear. Settler boards ship for new lands.
Lose 2 legion v hoplite defenders at Argos.
380AD(7)
Lose 2 legion v hoplite defenders at Athens, then 2 vet legion win and take city along with 1 worker (4 resistors). Legion defeats hoplite at Ephemus and reveals another defender, wait for support.
390AD(8)
Palmyra riots, set taxman. Antium completes legion, start legion. Veii legion, legion. Cumae library, legion.
Troops quell 2 resistors in Athens, starve city with tax. Spear outside Athens defends against archer and promotes to elite.
400AD(9)
Paris riots, set tax. Rome completes settler, start settler. Ravenna temple, settler. Brundisium worker, temple.
410AD(10)
Lutetia completes harbour, start worker. Upgrade warrior to legion. Troop movement to Corinth.
420AD(11)
Lose 2 legion at Corinth, elite horse retreats. Lose spear and Greek worker to archer near Athens. (Not a great round!)
430AD(12)
Retreat workers that were building road from Thermopylae to Athens. Move more troops to front line.
440AD(13)
Feudalism researched, start Engineering. Nicomedia completes worker, start harbour. Selucia founded on 2nd isle SE on hill, start worker. Troops head to Athens for healing.
450AD(14)
Paris completes temple, start legion. Rome settler, settler.
Take Ephesus with legion (was at size 2 now), 1 resistor. Leave garrison and move other troops towards Argos (also now size 2). Galley sunk by Greeks outside Byzantium. Settler still in Veii, can probably be moved along with troops into Greek lands.
End of turn.
War with Greece
There are 2 archers outside Athens border that can be taken. Troops heading for Argos then Athens. Some of the legion nearly ready were earmarked for the 2 Greek cities on southern peninsula.
Diplomacy
England (annoyed)- Trade route to England just opened. Only worthwhile deal is maybe for wines(WM + 13g).
Greece (furious) - Alex offers 34g + 6gpt for peace. Won't give Monotheism or cities, not worth it yet.
Have not traded WM.
Treasury
124g, +7gpt.
Research
Engineering in 14 turns at 40%.
No deals were made in the last turn.
I thought that after the last round I'd better check out the aims first and seeing that this included taking workers I probably attacked before I normally would in such a situation. As a result although 6 workers were gained I only took 2 cities and was looking anxiously at the southern peninsula where 2 cities were only protected by warriors.
Although Feudalism was researched, I never started Sun Tzu's (although a few turns could be saved by switching one of the city builds). I would have preferred to build in a river city but any population growth would have to be offset by luxury tax since none of the likely sites had both temple and market. The other option would have been to reduce the science rate, but with the other civs not yet discovered including scientific and industrious ones I didn't like this choice. The best bet looks like a market in Neapolis or Ravenna then Sun Tzu.
If I was playing a regular game I would probably only stay at war and take another couple of Greek cities (until they gave the tech) before concentrating on infrastructure and research for a while.
Oh, the GLH is due in 3!
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/lk33-zenga-450AD.zip
ControlFreak
Not An Addict, Really
After winning last round I decided to take a round off.I WISH.
Actually, the truth is I wanted to consolidate my victory with another one but RL got in the way. Not much gaming for me and an extension wouldn't help since I'm on a plane this afternoon and wont be back until next Tuesday. Hope enough others submit to keep the game going until I get back.Take out with Greece for me!:rocket:
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