Loss of Respect

Those of you who were “not smart enough” to see through this clever ruse might enjoy this passage from “The Little Prince”.
Spoiler :
Chapter 21​

It was then that the fox appeared.

"Good morning," said the fox.

"Good morning," the little prince responded politely, although when he turned around he saw nothing.

"I am right here," the voice said, "under the apple tree."

"Who are you?" asked the little prince, and added, "You are very pretty to look at."

"I am a fox," said the fox.

"Come and play with me," proposed the little prince. "I am so unhappy."

"I cannot play with you," the fox said. "I am not tamed."

"Ah! Please excuse me," said the little prince.

But, after some thought, he added:

"What does that mean-- 'tame'?"

"You do not live here," said the fox. "What is it that you are looking for?"

"I am looking for men," said the little prince. "What does that mean-- 'tame'?"

"Men," said the fox. "They have guns, and they hunt. It is very disturbing. They also raise chickens. These are their only interests. Are you looking for chickens?"

"No," said the little prince. "I am looking for friends. What does that mean-- 'tame'?"

"It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. It means to establish ties."

"'To establish ties'?"

"Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you, I am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world..."

"I am beginning to understand," said the little prince. "There is a flower... I think that she has tamed me..."

"It is possible," said the fox. "On the Earth one sees all sorts of things."

"Oh, but this is not on the Earth!" said the little prince.

The fox seemed perplexed, and very curious.

"On another planet?"

"Yes."

"Are there hunters on this planet?"

"No."

"Ah, that is interesting! Are there chickens?"

"No."

"Nothing is perfect," sighed the fox.

But he came back to his idea.

"My life is very monotonous," the fox said. "I hunt chickens; men hunt me. All the chickens are just alike, and all the men are just alike. And, in consequence, I am a little bored. But if you tame me, it will be as if the sun came to shine on my life. I shall know the sound of a step that will be different from all the others. Other steps send me hurrying back underneath the ground. Yours will call me, like music, out of my burrow. And then look: you see the grain-fields down yonder? I do not eat bread. Wheat is of no use to me. The wheat fields have nothing to say to me. And that is sad. But you have hair that is the colour of gold. Think how wonderful that will be when you have tamed me! The grain, which is also golden, will bring me back the thought of you. And I shall love to listen to the wind in the wheat..."

The fox gazed at the little prince, for a long time.

"Please-- tame me!" he said.

"I want to, very much," the little prince replied. "But I have not much time. I have friends to discover, and a great many things to understand."

"One only understands the things that one tames," said the fox. "Men have no more time to understand anything. They buy things all ready made at the shops. But there is no shop anywhere where one can buy friendship, and so men have no friends any more. If you want a friend, tame me..."

"What must I do, to tame you?" asked the little prince.

"You must be very patient," replied the fox. "First you will sit down at a little distance from me-- like that-- in the grass. I shall look at you out of the corner of my eye, and you will say nothing. Words are the source of misunderstandings. But you will sit a little closer to me, every day..."

The next day the little prince came back.

"It would have been better to come back at the same hour," said the fox. "If, for example, you come at four o'clock in the afternoon, then at three o'clock I shall begin to be happy. I shall feel happier and happier as the hour advances. At four o'clock, I shall already be worrying and jumping about. I shall show you how happy I am! But if you come at just any time, I shall never know at what hour my heart is to be ready to greet you... One must observe the proper rites..."

"What is a rite?" asked the little prince.

"Those also are actions too often neglected," said the fox. "They are what make one day different from other days, one hour from other hours. There is a rite, for example, among my hunters. Every Thursday they dance with the village girls. So Thursday is a wonderful day for me! I can take a walk as far as the vineyards. But if the hunters danced at just any time, every day would be like every other day, and I should never have any vacation at all."

So the little prince tamed the fox. And when the hour of his departure drew near--

"Ah," said the fox, "I shall cry."

"It is your own fault," said the little prince. "I never wished you any sort of harm; but you wanted me to tame you..."

"Yes, that is so," said the fox.

"But now you are going to cry!" said the little prince.

"Yes, that is so," said the fox.

"Then it has done you no good at all!"

"It has done me good," said the fox, "because of the color of the wheat fields." And then he added:

"Go and look again at the roses. You will understand now that yours is unique in all the world. Then come back to say goodbye to me, and I will make you a present of a secret."


The little prince went away, to look again at the roses.

"You are not at all like my rose," he said. "As yet you are nothing. No one has tamed you, and you have tamed no one. You are like my fox when I first knew him. He was only a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But I have made him my friend, and now he is unique in all the world."

And the roses were very much embarrassed.

"You are beautiful, but you are empty," he went on. "One could not die for you. To be sure, an ordinary passerby would think that my rose looked just like you-- the rose that belongs to me. But in herself alone she is more important than all the hundreds of you other roses: because it is she that I have watered; because it is she that I have put under the glass globe; because it is she that I have sheltered behind the screen; because it is for her that I have killed the caterpillars (except the two or three that we saved to become butterflies); because it is she that I have listened to, when she grumbled, or boasted, or ever sometimes when she said nothing. Because she is my rose.

And he went back to meet the fox.

"Goodbye," he said.

"Goodbye," said the fox. "And now here is my secret, a very simple secret: It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."

"What is essential is invisible to the eye," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember.

"It is the time you have wasted for your rose that makes your rose so important."

"It is the time I have wasted for my rose--" said the little prince, so that he would be sure to remember.

"Men have forgotten this truth," said the fox. "But you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed. You are responsible for your rose..."

"I am responsible for my rose," the little prince repeated, so that he would be sure to remember.

I'm confused...... (probably because I cut out everything except the first and last 2 lines.)
 
No, it was more like :-

TF: Poly wants to do an April Fools Day joke with us. What do you guys think?

Mods: Ok!

That's about it. :p

There were exclaimation marks? Sounds like the best thread ever... :sad:
 
Some people need to lighten up. TF has put his heart and soul into this site, putting in long hours so all you folks can have a community, and just because he plays an April Fools joke that didn't hurt anybody, some people have lost respect. Get real. You should get on your hands and knees and thank him for all he's done for you, and to the Civ community. This is a great site, and most would say it's the best one out there. The civ community wouldn't be the same with out TF and this site.

He has had my respect, and will continue to get it. Thank you TF!

Exactly. :thumbsup:
 
Nah, because if you did, you would have to give yourself an infraction :mischief:
 
Thanks, Birdjag, it's been a while since I've read that book...

Although I think it loses in translation and my French probably isn't as good now as it was when I read it... :sad:

Note: aren't we meant to be telling them off for spam, rather than doing it ourselves?

I thought mods, by definition, did not spam.
 
I too have lost a great deal of respect for the Moderators. This was a very cruel and un-called for joke.
I haven't lost respect for them, but I have lost my trust in them.

It was a very bad joke. Don't do it ever again!
This I concur with.

"...and made them act like idiots."
Disagreed! What would you do if you thought it was true? Don't pick on them; it's not fun to find out you've been had...at first. Then you start giggling. :)

It was the best April Fool's joke I ever encountered, and I should advise you: try to be part of one yourself once. You really laugh your :mischief: off! :lol:
It is very hard to earn my trust, and my trust was just betrayed. It is going to take quite a bit of time for CFC to re-earn my trust (if at all).

Some people need to lighten up. TF has put his heart and soul into this site, putting in long hours so all you folks can have a community, and just because he plays an April Fools joke that didn't hurt anybody, some people have lost respect. Get real. You should get on your hands and knees and thank him for all he's done for you, and to the Civ community. This is a great site, and most would say it's the best one out there. The civ community wouldn't be the same with out TF and this site.

He has had my respect, and will continue to get it. Thank you TF!
I thank the mods by giving them my trust (which is an incredibly scarce resource), and when it's toyed with, the trust isn't as readily given out or given back.

Forgive yes, forget not.
 
I haven't lost respect for them, but I have I thank the mods by giving them my trust (which is an incredibly scarce resource), and when it's toyed with, the trust isn't as readily given out or given back.

Forgive yes, forget not.

I hope at the same time you don't FORGET all the hard work that TF has put in to provide YOU with such a great site and a community you can be a member of... all the FREE TIME the mods give up to do their jobs to help the community YOU get for free.

And last but not least... The decision for doing an April Fools Joke was made by the owners of the respective sites... not the mods.
 
I hope at the same time you don't FORGET all the hard work that TF has put in to provide YOU with such a great site and a community you can be a member of... all the FREE TIME the mods give up to do their jobs to help the community YOU get for free.

And last but not least... The decision for doing an April Fools Joke was made by the owners of the respective sites... not the mods.

Don't worry Ming, I still respect you:yup:
 
Rik on the other hand tricked me personally . I want his head!!!!;)


Come and get me

The story Marinecorps is referring to (dd: Mar 30, 2007, 11:10 AM CET):
MarineCorps said:
Rik Meleet said:
MarineCorps said:
Admittedly you closed the thread much faster then I thought it would be close. I figured it would last at least several hours rather then 11 minutes. I don't suppose you'll tell me what Pluto's comment was about?
Sorry - I can't tell anything.
Thunderfall will let you know if there is something to know.

Regards
Rik

Didn't think so. But had to try anyways. Thanks.

Anyway - If a little harmless April fools joke is enough to counterbalance all the time, effort and money Thunderfall and the moderators have put into CFC for some, than those some are so hard to give respect that I won't be bothered trying to regain that respect back. Perhaps we abused the trust we had with you, but since that was on the only day of the year when that is allowed you shouldn't have worries for the other 364. Promised.

From the sidelines this was a funny sight:


 
I hope at the same time you don't FORGET all the hard work that TF has put in to provide YOU with such a great site and a community you can be a member of... all the FREE TIME the mods give up to do their jobs to help the community YOU get for free.

And last but not least... The decision for doing an April Fools Joke was made by the owners of the respective sites... not the mods.

I completely agree. They give us plenty and they get almost nothing in return (can't ignore that unrated babe thread they get;) ). Everything here is completely free, so them pulling 1 prank on us was well deserved by them. A prank is no reason to lose trust in anyone. I took it in stride even through I was tricked right to my face as can be seen by rik's post.


Come and get me

The story Marinecorps is referring to (dd: Mar 30, 2007, 11:10 AM CET):


Anyway - If a little harmless April fools joke is enough to counterbalance all the time, effort and money Thunderfall and the moderators have put into CFC for some, than those some are so hard to give respect that I won't be bothered trying to regain that respect back. Perhaps we abused the trust we had with you, but since that was on the only day of the year when that is allowed you shouldn't have worries for the other 364. Promised.

From the sidelines this was a funny sight:



hehe. :lol: I'm stronger then I look! I still can't believe I fell for your innocent act. I should have been tipped off by the fact that I wasn't warned for opening a thread that I knew was going to be closed. :hmm:
 
Apparently the fact that mods are humans too is upsetting some people. :p

Well the reason I am continuing as a mod is not because I want your trust or respect, but to give something back to the site and help TF a bit. :p
 
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