Lost Season 6 discussion thread (SPOILERS EXIST, AND MAY NOT BE IN TAGS!!)

[JtheJackal]

The finally pretty much boils down to "remember all these romances? the ones you forgot about? Yeah, let's rewatch those!"

Anyways, I'm not pissed. I enjoyed it. And I watched it with my family, and it helped that we are all sarcastic/made fun of it. But seriously, like, the very first season fans were just saying it was going to be purgatory/entrance to heaven. And it was.

Except what was purgatory whatever wasn't around back then so they were still wrong. And yeah what about the Hurley bird! Instead of crap about the whispers being ghosts when they've meant the Others the entire time of the show except that one episode, they should have used that time to bring up some of the past mysteries to give them some sort of "end" even if you don't give it an answer. (like Libby in the mental hospital)

 

[dannyshenanigan]

I've decided to stop trying to make sense of it all after about an hour. There is no way it makes any sense in a cohesive way. There is just an overwhelming abundance of plot devises that are completely nonsensical in retrospect.
Alternate time lines, time travel, the nuclear bomb going off, Walt, the numbers, weird kids in the jungle etc.
I can't think of anything that really made any sense. I still don't think I understand the hatch. It took me until 2 episodes until the finals to realize that it really made no sense whatsoever. With very low expectations I enjoyed the final in a weird way.

 

[bombshoo]

Predictable and boring.

 

[JtheJackal]

Predictable and boring.

I want to know how you could predict any of that

 

[Evie]

'Cuz Ben didn't die! But neither did hurley, so I guess that doesn't mean squat.

Of course they died. Not on screen...but at the end of the day, they're human. Some day, fifty, a hundred years after Jack, they died too. The same with Kate - "I've missed you so much" is because of all the years of her life post-island that he wasn't there. Aaron didn't die either - he wasn't even anywhere close to the island! - but he was there in the Church as they left it. Because at some point, far off, Aaron dies too.

And when they did die, they all wound up in the same here and now as the rest of the cast, waiting to find the others, to move on with the people that had mattered the most in their lives.

Satisfied, personally. Oh, I wish we knew what the Island was all about to begin with, but at the end of the day.

 

[Babbler]

I'm with Oba on this one. Mostly.

Have the cast in "purgatory" to work out their problems out was an interesting idea. I'm fine with them not explaining the ultimate nature of the Island, mostly. They could have more specific on why the island's power couldn't be released*, but I'm fine with the Island's powers being simply some weird electro-magical energy that destroys anybody who tried to understand it, and make mad those who protect it. Does it really need more explanation than that?

Having said that, I'm fairly down on this season. Yes, the flashes did allow the characters to solve there problems. But it seems to me that time could been better spend explaining things -- not necessarily the Island, but like explain more about the Others, or the sickness, etc. That bothers me, to the degree that I am bother at all by the finale, and drags the whole season and the series for me.

*It occurred to me that that nothing would happen if this energy was released, and it was only imperative to stop the smoke monster.

 

[Evie]

My theory on the island is, and remain, that it was Pandora's box/jar/island. It held evils, and it held hope. At the end, evil would have escaped, and ended everything good in the world, made earth into hell, but they didn't allow it to, and hope remained on the island.

(And it's Oda. Not Oba, Oda! He's even going to be the Civ V Japanese leader! )

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I have to pull off my hate faced with the sheer awesomeness of the makers of Lost. Really. What they have created is absolutely unique. And they did that being commercially successful.

Story-wise Lost must be the worst and incoherent television show ever aired. Ever. The impudence of it all makes me salute the makers for their boldness in creating a show based on mysteries, followed by more mysteries and every now and then an answer followed by even more mysterious which is in the end topped by a clichéd and gimcrackery ending which solved - nothing.
So actually the viewer has been hosed to an extend unknown and by myself not believed to be possible.

What makes this now so really special is, that I still enjoyed the ending. And the show in its entirety (at least most of it). Masterful.

So my résumé: Lost just sucks. But it is really good at it.

 

[Janig]

I really enjoyed that series

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I loved the series, and I loved the finale. I guess I have the rest of my life to make up my own answers for the questions they didn't answer . . .

 

[JerichoHill]

My notion that sideways was a trap was in a sense, correct.

A good series ending for a show
A bad series ending for proving they knew what they were doing

 

[JerichoHill]

'Cuz Ben didn't die! But neither did hurley, so I guess that doesn't mean squat.

I still wanna know why there was a statue though

Hurley died. The whole point of sideways was that they all died. We however, don't know how long Hurley lived and was #1 and Ben was #2.

Ben's dead too, but we also don't know when he died. He however, like Ms. Widmore, stays in sideways land

Why didn't they answer questions on the island? I think that's there comment that the answers are not necessary

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Hurley may have lived for thousands of years as the island's protector, yes, but like Jacob before him, eventually his time ended.

(That would be a great spinoff - Hurley's Island. Some alien spaceship crash lands there a thousand years from now . . . )

 

[JerichoHill]

Basically

1) LOST was a Post-Modern take on Christianity
2) The island was real, but it doesn't matter if it makes sense

 

[warpus]

Yeah, I don't think Jack is the new protector; that's far too obvious. It's going to end up being somebody who doesn't want the power/responsibility. I am going with Hugo OR that there isn't even a protector at all and that's all bs.

Whoa, I was right

So yeah, remember way back at the very start a lot of fans were like "oh, they're in purgatory." And then I guess the exec producers said "no, that isn't the case." Well, the show ended with them all waiting in church, as Jack's dad went into doors that went into a bright light.

Seems a lot like waiting for heaven to me!

The island wasn't purgatory - the sideways reality was - so they weren't lying when they said that.

Interesting that Ben didn't go into the church. Not sure what that's about, he seems to be the most cryptic character symbolically to me, right now.

Ben doesn't get to go to heaven; or he's not done waiting in purgatory for his chance to go..

'Cuz Ben didn't die! But neither did hurley, so I guess that doesn't mean squat.

They all eventually died in the "real" timeline, eventually, we just didn't get to see all the deaths.

don't call it 6 wasted years because I derived entertainment from the series along the way, but this ending was utter crap and it is insulting that they decided to stretch it out to 2.5 hours of crap.

The series had a great ending in terms of the characters and the relationships between them; every main character's story was concluded reasonably well. So i that sense all the characters got great send-offs. In terms of mythology, we didn't get a great ending at all.

So I suppose it all depends on what you were looking for in the finale. Characters to me make a show - the mythology being secondary, so I enjoyed the finale.

And yeah what about the Hurley bird!

Wait, what Hurley bird are you guys talking about?

Oh, I wish we knew what the Island was all about to begin with, but at the end of the day.

They were never going to explain that due to the "midichlorian" factor.

 

[Evie]

Well, yeah. That, too.

 

[sophie]

Ben doesn't get to go to heaven; or he's not done waiting in purgatory for his chance to go..

This, I think he opts not to go because he was for the most part a treacherous character, and villainous right to the end. However, at the very end he decides to finally play along, however I think in his mind he still hasn't atoned for all he did while on the island, and this is why he doesn't want to go into the church.

I had a feeling it was some kind of non-reality. I caught on when 1.) Charlie survives after being underwater for all that time, and 2.) Sun survives getting shot in the chest by a pistol at near point blank range. Things always seem to come out way too perfectly for the characters for it to be anything less than a non-reality/they are dead.

 

[Evie]

I think, more specifically, that while Locke letting go was an important part of allowing Ben to let go, he needs Rousseau, and even more so, Alex to remember and let go before he, too, can move on. So he's going to hang around with them in the AR for a while yet, and probably at some future point move on with the two of them.

 

[bombshoo]

Well guess we will have to wait for the DVD for the rest of the none-answers.

I liked the Finale better after sleeping on it. I think it could have been done better and I still have some grievances such as the 20 minutes of replays of characters making out instead of answers to basic questions for instance, but I've decided to let it go. I was really hoping for something with a real awesome science and fantasy based mythology and that was the main reason I watched in the first place so finding out none of this was important is annoying, but overall it was a good show and had good characters and I'm not going to let the studio and writers' misrepresentation of what was the real purpose of the show for years change that.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I couldn't get to sleep last night after watching this, so many things to think about. Like I said I am forming my own theories both on what happened, that they never explained, and also what would happen next (in the "real" timeline, what happens in the AR/ LA X/purgatory timeline once they "walk towards the light" seems irrelevant to me.)