I will sign up for Lotro20.
Maze sounds interesting, but all are fine.
Maze sounds interesting, but all are fine.
LotR Series...
- Thread starter Arathorn
- Start date
ThERat
Deity
Arathorn, with some games ending soon, I'd like to try immortal difficulty if you have me
LotR20 is started. It's at
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3443208
Jaffa is up.
LotR19 roster is full. Game will hopefully start tonight, but not until later.
LotR19
Arathorn
Kylerean
Islandia (Welcome to the SG community!)
Shillen
ThERat
Arathorn
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3443208
Jaffa is up.
LotR19 roster is full. Game will hopefully start tonight, but not until later.
LotR19
Arathorn
Kylerean
Islandia (Welcome to the SG community!)
Shillen
ThERat
Arathorn
Epic Immortality started!
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147428
Looks challenging, to say the least.
Arathorn
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147428
Looks challenging, to say the least.
Arathorn
Sirian
Designer, Mohawk Games
Vol said:If you don't have minerals nearby, at least you know who's to blame for the map script.
I didn't know I was going to get audited by the Interior Department, Office of Surface Mining. 
How about blame the dice instead?
- Sirian
ThERat
Deity
Arathorn, any new game planned? Your games are the most enjoyable I played for Civ4.
Would love to try another if you come up with a great idea.
Would love to try another if you come up with a great idea.
Sign-ups for LotR22 are now open. I don't accept pre-sign-ups (too complicated for me to keep track of).
LotR22 Insane Izzy
Difficulty: Prince (Noble?)
Map Script: TBD (Pangea? Terra? I dunno)
Civilization: Spain (under Isobella)
Opponents: Random (6)
Map Size: Standard
Variant: Religion Fanatic (see below) We all know Izzy is a religious fanatic -- now we'll take it to the extreme!
Start Date: Jan. 27th, probably.
Roster:
Arathorn
-open-
-open-
-open-
-open-
Religion Fanatic (subject to modification/clarification)
One religion to rule them all, one religion to find them,
One religion to crush them all, and to the Light bind them.
- The first religion in any of our cities becomes The One True Religion. It is best to be the founder of this religion, I would think.
- All other religions are evil and must be exterminated. The goal is 100% following of The One True Religion (TOTR). Any city following any religion other than TOTR must be razed to the ground.
- Cities following only TOTR must be allowed to live in peace and harmony. If they choose to flip to the player, thats fine, but they MAY NOT be attacked.
- We may never spread any religion other than TOTR.
- We may never be in the Free Religion Civic.
- Any victory condition where TOTR is 100% in F7 is fine.
- We may only militarily ally with nations following TOTR. We may ally with them even if they have some cities following things other than TOTR (but well have to attack them later, note).
- All Prophets follow TOTR. The first prophet must either discover the tech for TOTR (e.g., Theology to found Christianity) or build the Shrine for TOTR. Any later Prophets must be joined to the Holy City as super-specialists.
Tactical notes:
- If one of OUR cities starts to follow something other than TOTR, we will have to find a way to have it razed. I think giving it away and then attacking will allow us to raze it, but that should be verified before the game starts.
- Theocracy (for no spreading of non-state religion) and/or Organized Religion (to allow missionaries to be built in any city) would seem to be the Religious Civics of choice.
- Late religions spread naturally more easily than early religions, but I think well want an early religion, to get a head start on things.
- Hydra is very VERY bad. If the holy city for TOTR gets another religion, we will have to raze it!
- Founding more than one religion is an interesting dilemma. In one sense, we can limit its spread, but, in another, well have to raze one of our cities because of the abomination. And, if it becomes a hydra situation YIKES!
Arathorn
LotR22 Insane Izzy
Difficulty: Prince (Noble?)
Map Script: TBD (Pangea? Terra? I dunno)
Civilization: Spain (under Isobella)
Opponents: Random (6)
Map Size: Standard
Variant: Religion Fanatic (see below) We all know Izzy is a religious fanatic -- now we'll take it to the extreme!
Start Date: Jan. 27th, probably.
Roster:
Arathorn
-open-
-open-
-open-
-open-
Religion Fanatic (subject to modification/clarification)
One religion to rule them all, one religion to find them,
One religion to crush them all, and to the Light bind them.
- The first religion in any of our cities becomes The One True Religion. It is best to be the founder of this religion, I would think.
- All other religions are evil and must be exterminated. The goal is 100% following of The One True Religion (TOTR). Any city following any religion other than TOTR must be razed to the ground.
- Cities following only TOTR must be allowed to live in peace and harmony. If they choose to flip to the player, thats fine, but they MAY NOT be attacked.
- We may never spread any religion other than TOTR.
- We may never be in the Free Religion Civic.
- Any victory condition where TOTR is 100% in F7 is fine.
- We may only militarily ally with nations following TOTR. We may ally with them even if they have some cities following things other than TOTR (but well have to attack them later, note).
- All Prophets follow TOTR. The first prophet must either discover the tech for TOTR (e.g., Theology to found Christianity) or build the Shrine for TOTR. Any later Prophets must be joined to the Holy City as super-specialists.
Tactical notes:
- If one of OUR cities starts to follow something other than TOTR, we will have to find a way to have it razed. I think giving it away and then attacking will allow us to raze it, but that should be verified before the game starts.
- Theocracy (for no spreading of non-state religion) and/or Organized Religion (to allow missionaries to be built in any city) would seem to be the Religious Civics of choice.
- Late religions spread naturally more easily than early religions, but I think well want an early religion, to get a head start on things.
- Hydra is very VERY bad. If the holy city for TOTR gets another religion, we will have to raze it!
- Founding more than one religion is an interesting dilemma. In one sense, we can limit its spread, but, in another, well have to raze one of our cities because of the abomination. And, if it becomes a hydra situation YIKES!
Arathorn
Jabah
Emperor
Sounds quite interesting, especially knowing that even in Theocracy, other religions might spread on their own, resulting in nightmare situation, (religious bloodbath inquisition inside Spain, you must be joking...).
One minor rule point. Do you have to raze other religious cities, but do you have to do it ASAP (declare war and all, which might almost be always war with civil war as well), or just when you happen to be at war and 'capture' them.
For flavour, I would add the next rule: as soon as you know of another holy city, declare war and raze it.
I am in 2SG already, but probably could manage 3 if you want me in the team.
Regarding level, noble might be a problem in the way that if we want only ONE religion, we will have to do 'strange' research to avoid founding another one...
Jabah
One minor rule point. Do you have to raze other religious cities, but do you have to do it ASAP (declare war and all, which might almost be always war with civil war as well), or just when you happen to be at war and 'capture' them.
For flavour, I would add the next rule: as soon as you know of another holy city, declare war and raze it.
I am in 2SG already, but probably could manage 3 if you want me in the team.
Regarding level, noble might be a problem in the way that if we want only ONE religion, we will have to do 'strange' research to avoid founding another one...
Jabah
Only if the city doesn't already have a religion. We can send out settler trios (settler, defender, missionary) to hopefully avoid that situation. It would make sense to me to do so, anyway. Theocracy prevents missionaries from hurting us, though.
Well, they can't be captured, if that's what you mean. You must raze them, but...
No, it does not have to be ASAP. You can see other religions and just put them "on the list", as it were. Occasionally, speed might be a benefit (if we can squash a religion before it starts spreading, that could be very helpful), but it's an end-game goal of 100% of TOTR, not all game, necessarily.
I debated this, but I decided against it, initially. If the team thinks it's a good idea, we can add it. I'd maybe change it to, as soon as we know where a Shrine is, we must go raze that city.
Is that a sign-up or not? Of course I would like to have you on the team, but that's true of a LOT of people at CFC. Please clarify your intentions.
@LK: You're in.
Roster:
Arathorn
LKendter
Jabah??
-open-
-open-
Arathorn
Kylearan
compound eye
Hi,
sounds crazy.
If this game will be on Prince or above, sign me up! If it's below Prince, not.
What about game speed? Lots of war would suggest Epic speed, although I'm not sure what kind of problems 1.52 has introduced for that speed, as Sirian suggested.
If it's normal speed, I'd prefer a pangea map.
-Kylearan
sounds crazy.
If this game will be on Prince or above, sign me up! If it's below Prince, not.What about game speed? Lots of war would suggest Epic speed, although I'm not sure what kind of problems 1.52 has introduced for that speed, as Sirian suggested.
If it's normal speed, I'd prefer a pangea map.
-Kylearan
Jabah
Emperor
Arathorn said:
Yes, it is a sign-up even if it was not as clear as I thought
Jabah
I'm glad you don't accept pre-signups since I really don't have the time for another SG and I'm not sure why I posted that I would be up for another one. I guess I was too excited about our LOTR19 win at the time. I wish you luck with this SG, I don't think it will be easy at all. I would make sure to found one of the early religions instead of a late one, as you might get one spread to you before founding your own and then you're stuck with using that as the one religion. When founding new cities make sure to send a missionary with the settler always, because brand new cities always get natural religion spread to them, provided there's a trade route of some sort.
edit: As for getting religion spread to you naturally in a theocracy, I think natural religion spread can only occur in a city that has no other religion. So you should be safe once you're in a theocracy.
edit: As for getting religion spread to you naturally in a theocracy, I think natural religion spread can only occur in a city that has no other religion. So you should be safe once you're in a theocracy.
Roster:
Arathorn
LKendter
Jabah
Kylearan (Prince only)
-open-
I think this will be very tough, if we try to go above Prince. Looks like Prince is the choice then.
Thoughts on speed? I hadn't said. I was thinking Normal, but I prefer Epic. Normal games just allow more to be played, and I'm still really experimenting with Civ4. I feel lost as often as not, still, so I'm trying to get more games in.
What do the other players think?
Arathorn
Arathorn
LKendter
Jabah
Kylearan (Prince only)
-open-
I think this will be very tough, if we try to go above Prince. Looks like Prince is the choice then.
Thoughts on speed? I hadn't said. I was thinking Normal, but I prefer Epic. Normal games just allow more to be played, and I'm still really experimenting with Civ4. I feel lost as often as not, still, so I'm trying to get more games in.
What do the other players think?
Arathorn
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Not likely a signup, but still a question:
If another civilization has a different state religion--but one of its outlying cities has only TOTR--does that mean you can't liberate it? It sounds like the 'peace and harmony' clause forces you to go around it.
If another civilization has a different state religion--but one of its outlying cities has only TOTR--does that mean you can't liberate it? It sounds like the 'peace and harmony' clause forces you to go around it.
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