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[Symphony D.]

one problem I see with the alliance is thanks to France holding bits of Eastern Russia Japan and Russia don't share a border

Intrude: You probably want to turn up your monitor's contrast, because that isn't French territory.

 

[Captain2]

hmm, apparently its American

thanks symph, might need to check my eyes

 

[D'Artagnan59]

one problem I see with the alliance is thanks to France holding bits of Eastern Russia Japan and Russia don't share a border

not saying it wouldn't serve its purpose but Japanese supply lines would be easily broken

Actually, I see a flaw in that.

I, the United States of America, control it, not France. And if you're thinking of me giving it up, NO, NEVER, NOSIREE. The American state of Primorsky will not be given up to anyone. Not even Russia or Japan. Or Sakhalin. Or Kamchatka. My Pacific holdings will stay American.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Continuing a previous discussion and some language practice:

Faux. La Californie n'a été pas un territoire du Napoléon. Il n'a pas des colonies.

But on a newer note- Awesome update Lucky! Short 'n Sweet.

 

[D'Artagnan59]

California doesn't have colonies and wasn't a territory of Napoleon? (Babelfish)

Or can you just post it with an English translation?

 

[Captain2]

Actually, I see a flaw in that.

I, the United States of America, control it, not France. And if you're thinking of me giving it up, NO, NEVER, NOSIREE. The American state of Primorsky will not be given up to anyone. Not even Russia or Japan. Or Sakhalin. Or Kamchatka. My Pacific holdings will stay American.

I was simply pointing out the problems in the belief Japan would cause a second front, I wasn't doing whatever you think I'm doing

 

[TaylorFlame]

Right, I'm back to take up the reigns of Peru once more.

 

[Luckymoose]

Wait, where's the IC I got from Mexico for Goliath?

It was only one turn. Him giving you 5 IC does not magically increase your annual income.

 

[D'Artagnan59]

OK. Now I understand.

 

[Fuschia]

A rationalization is pointless unless you use it to convince the general people/interest groups of X, Y or Z, and thus it will get out, and the British will worry over it. And stating you striking against British power does put all the lucrative prussian african colonies on the line.

That specific rationalization was used only for convincing the government(i.e., myself) to do it. The people are being fed the general Russian-threat, Japan-more-powerful-ally-than China stuff.

I was simply pointing out the problems in the belief Japan would cause a second front, I wasn't doing whatever you think I'm doing

Obviously I disagree. Japan could easily cause a second front because of their large influence within Manchukuo, which does, indeed, border Russia. They might also, by the time any such war arrives, have essentially dominated the rest of China as well.

 

[carmen510]

To Bavaria
From Switzerland

We believe that it is in our collective interests to combine our research efforts. May we propose that we spend 1 IC this turn and you spend 1 IC this turn so we may complete this research together?

 

[sp1023]

No. You can't magically make IC appear just because you say so in your orders.

NO, because I'm also in the Union, u know the EEPP.

 

[carmen510]

sp1023: That still doesn't change anything. It takes time to increase IC, and Lucky is the one who increases IC, not you.

 

[Supermath]

Decloak: So in nine generations we'll have Napoleon XIV of France?

 

[Luckymoose]

Decloak: So in nine generations we'll have Napoleon XIV of France?

Depends if the monarchy survives. They all use the name Napoleon. His real first name is not Napoleon.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

California doesn't have colonies and wasn't a territory of Napoleon? (Babelfish)

Or can you just post it with an English translation?

I said (not a direct translation) that Napoleon didn't have any overseas colonies (or any significant ones at any rate).

 

[Disenfrancised]

Obviously I disagree. Japan could easily cause a second front because of their large influence within Manchukuo, which does, indeed, border Russia. They might also, by the time any such war arrives, have essentially dominated the rest of China as well.

At which point why the heck would they bother fighting Russia? And 'Dominating China' would tie down all their resources, plus you've lost out on a huge exploitable market for a smaller and much more competitive one.

Just because they were together in the Axis doesn't mean Germany and Japan are forever destined to fight alongside . And of course by stating this aloud you've basically commited a major misstep, as now Russia, Britain and America will try and keep China 'open' for trade, and Prussia almost certainly needs America and Britain's neutrality more than she needs Japan .

 

[Fuschia]

At which point why the heck would they bother fighting Russia? And 'Dominating China' would tie down all their resources, plus you've lost out on a huge exploitable market for a smaller and much more competitive one.

Just because they were together in the Axis doesn't mean Germany and Japan are forever destined to fight alongside . And of course by stating this aloud you've basically commited a major misstep, as now Russia, Britain and America will try and keep China 'open' for trade, and Prussia almost certainly needs America and Britain's neutrality more than she needs Japan

From the information available to you, completely true. That does not mean I don't have reasons that over-ride those that you put forth, mostly because of interesting and confidential diplomacy.

As for the huge exploitable market in China, the British have it pinned down and I am much further away from their than I would have liked. Trade in Europe is picking up, as seen in the last update and, as such, I don't need to rely on markets so far away as China, and an ally against any attack from Russia is certainly more valuable than the occasional trade from Russia.

As for stating everything out loud, I said nothing that would not be readily observable to someone thinking about my actions in-depth. It obviously hurts Britain, even if just a little bit, as well as the other European powers and America who have stakes in the Chinese economy. My main hope would be that people had already thought that much about everything; if not, well, I suppose I can hope at least a few will remain in character and not exploit information they don't necessarily know in game.

Anyways, let us stop bickering about the falsity of my decision. It is already made, we will see if it was a good one or a bad one after the next few updates.

 

[jeps]

lurking, might join when time sets back in (mid-next week). if i were to join, who would be good for me?

 

[Luckymoose]

lurking, might join when time sets back in (mid-next week). if i were to join, who would be good for me?

France if germanicus doesn't do anything.