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[Captain2]

Torussia
From:Russian Empire

Hungary is a part of the agreement as well as Sweden, should we allow them to fall we would be in a worse position in the future should Prussia attack.

after 5 years of occupation of Hungary, Russia would be unable to survive another surprise attack, should Prussia accept without such an advantage we would believe that peace is truly the goal and not just securing a wavering victory

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Orders sent.

 

[Luckymoose]

Orders received.

 

[Disenfrancised]

As for Hungary, it is a nation of Germanic peoples

No its not.

Plus with only some 20% of them within your borders you can hardly claim to be the 'protector of the Germanic' peoples. And (and this is important), the Prussia Union is a multiethnic nation that relies on the civic nationalism and militarism of the Poles and Czechs - talking about being 'protector of the Germans' is a ridicilious thing that will cause massive dissent.

THE PRUSSIA UNION IS NOT THE OTL GERMAN EMPIRE.

 

[Justo]

OOC: @sp1023 you do realise the more you talk about increasing your IC the less likely it is that it will actually happen.

To: The Prussian Union
From: Sweden

If a peace is to be found we believe it would have to involve all nations currently in this war and it would have to be fair to all nations.

Remember your nation initiated this war and caused all this bloodshed. You talk about Sweden betraying its neutrality but what happened to Prussian neutrality your nation could have easily avoided this war.

To: Russia, Hungary
From: Sweden

Sweden is willing to continue this war. Unless the Prussian Union can come up with a fair peace offer that is acceptible to all involved. We also believe our nations are in an excellent position to achieve victory if this war is to continue.

 

[Fuschia]

To: Russia
From: Prussia

You are, therefore, dismissing our favorable peace? You cannot win nor, if you do win, will you gain anything but completely ruined land. We advise you to reconsider, for otherwise the war will continue and you will regret your decision.

To: Sweden
From: Prussia

The fact is, Sweden, you are in no position to demand anything from the Prussian Union. We are more than capable of effectively halving your economy by preventing overseas trade, not to mention annexing you when we have the time and inclination to build some transports. You will fall if this war continues and, as Russia said earlier to the Hellenic Republic, it is more than reasonable to say that, while Russia will only be damaged, you will cease to exist.

No its not.

Plus with only some 20% of them within your borders you can hardly claim to be the 'protector of the Germanic' peoples. And (and this is important), the Prussia Union is a multiethnic nation that relies on the civic nationalism and militarism of the Poles and Czechs - talking about being 'protector of the Germans' is a ridicilious thing that will cause massive dissent.

THE PRUSSIA UNION IS NOT THE OTL GERMAN EMPIRE.

We are the protector of Central Europe, which includes all Germanic peoples. On another note, your continual ranting about how what I am doing will "cause massive dissent" is getting rather annoying and, obviously, not getting anything done, as my dissent has yet to rise, mostly because it is actual actions, not words, which make people unhappy.

 

[Disenfrancised]

We are the protector of Central Europe, which includes all Germanic peoples. On another note, your continual ranting about how what I am doing will "cause massive dissent" is getting rather annoying and, obviously, not getting anything done, as my dissent has yet to rise, mostly because it is actual actions, not words, which make people unhappy.

There is still the point that Hungarians are not Germanic peoples, central Europe is not only German, and the majority of Germans live west of the Elbe and South of Bohemia, and are thus outside your control.

This is the first time I've mentioned the likelihood being dissent - before I just pointed out that your articulations were badly thought out and wrong. And I'm not saying there is dissent, but that if you do send in that justification in your orders you should be rightly screwed. Lern 2 causality lol.

Finally Russia would gain quite a lot if they continued - the ruin of Prussia and the removal of a threat on their doorstep.

 

[Justo]

To: Prussia
From: Sweden

We don't believe Prussia has to capability to invade Sweden and would like to see it try. Sweden believes that Prussia is stretching itself beyond its limits as currently it is fighting a 3 front war.

We would also like to inform Prussia that it is a terrible ally attempting to trade Finland for peace with Russia when it was Prussia who most likely initiated the war in the first place. Can you even rely on your allies to remain by your side now after trying to trade them for favourable peace terms?

How long can your current stockpile of resources last? Sweden was one of your largest suppliers of resources and Finland is almost completed occupied. Your nation doesn't have the resources to sustain itself and soon it will fail.

From this it is clear it is the Prussian Union who is not in the position to demand anything from Sweden.

 

[sp1023]

To: Prussia
From: Sweden

We don't believe Prussia has to capability to invade Sweden and would like to see it try. Sweden believes that Prussia is stretching itself beyond its limits as currently it is fighting a 3 front war.

We would also like to inform Prussia that it is a terrible ally attempting to trade Finland for peace with Russia when it was Prussia who most likely initiated the war in the first place. Can you even rely on your allies to remain by your side now after trying to trade them for favourable peace terms?

How long can your current stockpile of resources last? Sweden was one of your largest suppliers of resources and Finland is almost completed occupied. Your nation doesn't have the resources to sustain itself and soon it will fail.

From this it is clear it is the Prussian Union who is not in the position to demand anything from Sweden.

Do you hhonestly believe that you are the only resource provider of Prussia? If Prussia is able to overrun the massive resources of Russia with their massive resources, they will have an even larger source of resources.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

Suscribed, looks like an interesting story. Go Prussians, go!

 

[sp1023]

Yea, go Prussians go!

By the way, Lucky, did you get the orders I sent to you?

 

[Captain2]

If Prussia is able to overrun the massive resources of Russia with their massive resources, they will have an even larger source of resources.

overrun Russia... are you looking at the same war I am?

we're not losing tons of ground once you consider our size

 

[Warman17]

ooc: You never increased my Army quality after I got improved rifles.

 

[sp1023]

To: The Hellenic Republic
From: The Prussian Union

According to the agreements of the EEPP, the Hellenic Republic is now obligated to offer assistance in our wars with both Hungary and Sweden. As such, we will offer counsel on private fronts as to what your actions should be.
QUOTE]

We are obligated? Really? As you can see, you started the war. They are simply joining it. Anyways, even if we were obligated, we couldn't send support. Our army is pathetic! Even switzerland has a bigger army than us!
We apologize for not being able to send ground support, but until it grows, we cannot afford to.

Our navy is a different case. We could spare some light ship groups,but we would have to pass through enemy waters. That is a risk we are not willing to take for our meager navy. If you could negotiate with our surrounding countries, we might be able to send you some.

The only option currently available is to send you our Light recon airplane. I doubt it will make any difference. Unless you are able to weaken russia significantly, we will not be able to send you support, for risk of colonization.

Tell us if you are able to negotiate or want the plane. They will be on their way as soon as you say so.

Again, we apologize for not sending ground support, but until the Council of 100 sees fit, we cannot afford to do so.

When our defense stabilizes and our offense is good, the Greeks will rise once more!

(P.S. Pm me and tell me which tech you want me to invest in.)

 

[carmen510]

From Switzerland
To the World

Due to recent troubles with the Hellenic Republic, we will be withdrawing all federal investment in Hellenic Republic corporations/companies. We will also ask our citizens and businesses to withdraw their investments in the Hellenic Republic.

 

[sp1023]

What investment. Noob, just because you say there's and investment doesn't mean their is one! Besides, i have a command economy. The "company investments" are controlled by me. We invested in the US stock exchange, not yours. We may or may not have several million stocks on the NYSE.

 

[Luckymoose]

ooc: You never increased my Army quality after I got improved rifles.

Will fix.

What investment. Noob, just because you say there's and investment doesn't mean their is one! Besides, i have a command economy. The "company investments" are controlled by me. We invested in the US stock exchange, not yours. We may or may not have several million stocks on the NYSE.

Actually him requiring your citizens and business owners to withdraw money from Swiss Banks is true. They have money in there.

 

[Dachs]

Besides, i have a command economy.

lurker's comment: Uh...since when?

 

[Warman17]

Besides, i have a command economy.

Hellenic Republic/sp1023
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 0
Private Enterprise: 3

No, you don't.

 

[sp1023]

Actually, i am now changing it. and command economy doesnt mean there isnt private enterprise, it means that the gov controls private enterprise. Theres a difference. And I am investing in the New York Stock exchange, not the Swiss one.