Making a new Magic System Part II: Spells
- Thread starter Sephi
- Start date
done:
Spoiler :
1) Belligerent Realm
2) Cataclysm
3) Chaos Rift
4) Defiled Soil
5) Dark Rituals
6) Death Wish
7) Malediction of Insomnia
8) Mana Seal
9) Mana Surge
10) Mark of Elements
11) Prayer
12) Prosperous Realm
most are from kings bounty
edit: i have not converted them to *.dds (they are *.bmp) i hope you don't mind this, since you wanted to convert them to an atlas file anyway.
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[to_xp]Gekko
QCT junkie
those are some kickass buttons dude
sephi, i created some spells:
1)
nether blade: needs dimensional 1 researched and dark blessing: deals a high amount of damage to one target
2)
rift: needs dimensional 2 researched and dark blessing: deals a medium amount of damage to all units within the enemy stack and makes them immovable for one turn
3)
burning blood: need vampire promotion and body 1 researched: deals a low amount of damage to five enemy units and enrages them.
all 3 spells have unique effects i created for them:
1) a sword appears above the enemy swirls in the air and on contact with the ground it bursts into black and violet spheres
edit: new version of the netherblade can be found in post #76
2) looks like a black whole
3) boiling blood appears around the enemy + the claws from the other calabim bloodpet spell
4)
i also created a fourth effect: a thunderstorm, i.e. massive lightning devastating the tile. i did not make any spell for this effect since i thought you might want to it use for already existing spells.
since my graphics card is broken and i can only play with the onboard chip and i don't really have that much time, i could not playtest it in length, i just checked if the effects are displayed properly.
some bugs i noticed:
-when a spell adds a promotion to enemies it does not work (i.e. boiling blood does not apply the enraged promotion)
-spells that affect a certain amount of targets (in my case 5 with boiling blood) but are casted on only one enemy, he gets damaged numerous times.
-when performing rituals (for example terraforming) i can click numerous rituals leave the screen and cast them all, although i did not have enough mana (i can go into the negative)
-i could not choose a destination for my terrforming rituals
-the spellpower promotions require the corresponding aura effect promotions (i.e. spellpower II needs at least aura effect II) although i did not write this in the xml, this seems a bit fishy.
further issues:
-no pedia entries (descriptions are there)
-no buttons (for rift i suggest the same button i gave you earlier (Chaos Rift), for nethersword i already gave you a button, but i did not find it in the xml although it is there somewhere since i saw it in the pedia, for burning blood i have no clue if there is an already existing fitting button)
-if you merge the effects into the wildmana80.pak you will notice that there are already some of the same textures for the effects. this is no problem since they are the same textures so you can override them or leave them be (but don't forget the new ones)
basically i just wanted to make some effects and try them out. if you need additional spell effects let me know with a short description on how they should look like
1)
nether blade: needs dimensional 1 researched and dark blessing: deals a high amount of damage to one target
2)
rift: needs dimensional 2 researched and dark blessing: deals a medium amount of damage to all units within the enemy stack and makes them immovable for one turn
3)
burning blood: need vampire promotion and body 1 researched: deals a low amount of damage to five enemy units and enrages them.
all 3 spells have unique effects i created for them:
1) a sword appears above the enemy swirls in the air and on contact with the ground it bursts into black and violet spheres
edit: new version of the netherblade can be found in post #76
2) looks like a black whole
3) boiling blood appears around the enemy + the claws from the other calabim bloodpet spell
4)
i also created a fourth effect: a thunderstorm, i.e. massive lightning devastating the tile. i did not make any spell for this effect since i thought you might want to it use for already existing spells.
since my graphics card is broken and i can only play with the onboard chip and i don't really have that much time, i could not playtest it in length, i just checked if the effects are displayed properly.
some bugs i noticed:
-when a spell adds a promotion to enemies it does not work (i.e. boiling blood does not apply the enraged promotion)
-spells that affect a certain amount of targets (in my case 5 with boiling blood) but are casted on only one enemy, he gets damaged numerous times.
-when performing rituals (for example terraforming) i can click numerous rituals leave the screen and cast them all, although i did not have enough mana (i can go into the negative)
-i could not choose a destination for my terrforming rituals
-the spellpower promotions require the corresponding aura effect promotions (i.e. spellpower II needs at least aura effect II) although i did not write this in the xml, this seems a bit fishy.
further issues:
-no pedia entries (descriptions are there)
-no buttons (for rift i suggest the same button i gave you earlier (Chaos Rift), for nethersword i already gave you a button, but i did not find it in the xml although it is there somewhere since i saw it in the pedia, for burning blood i have no clue if there is an already existing fitting button)
-if you merge the effects into the wildmana80.pak you will notice that there are already some of the same textures for the effects. this is no problem since they are the same textures so you can override them or leave them be (but don't forget the new ones)
basically i just wanted to make some effects and try them out. if you need additional spell effects let me know with a short description on how they should look like
graywarden
King
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sephi, i created some spells:
1)
nether blade: needs dimensional 1 researched and dark blessing: deals a high amount of damage to one target
2)
rift: needs dimensional 2 researched and dark blessing: deals a medium amount of damage to all units within the enemy stack and makes them immovable for one turn
3)
burning blood: need vampire promotion and body 1 researched: deals a low amount of damage to five enemy units and enrages them.
all 3 spells have unique effects i created for them:
1) a sword appears above the enemy swirls in the air and on contact with the ground it bursts into black and violet spheres
2) looks like a black whole
3) boiling blood appears around the enemy + the claws from the other calabim bloodpet spell
4)
i also created a fourth effect: a thunderstorm, i.e. massive lightning devastating the tile. i did not make any spell for this effect since i thought you might want to it use for already existing spells.
since my graphics card is broken and i can only play with the onboard chip and i don't really have that much time, i could not playtest it in length, i just checked if the effects are displayed properly.
some bugs i noticed:
-when a spell adds a promotion to enemies it does not work (i.e. boiling blood does not apply the enraged promotion)
-spells that affect a certain amount of targets (in my case 5 with boiling blood) but are casted on only one enemy, he gets damaged numerous times.
-when performing rituals (for example terraforming) i can click numerous rituals leave the screen and cast them all, although i did not have enough mana (i can go into the negative)
-i could not choose a destination for my terrforming rituals
-the spellpower promotions require the corresponding aura effect promotions (i.e. spellpower II needs at least aura effect II) although i did not write this in the xml, this seems a bit fishy.
further issues:
-no pedia entries (descriptions are there)
-no buttons (for rift i suggest the same button i gave you earlier (Chaos Rift), for nethersword i already gave you a button, but i did not find it in the xml although it is there somewhere since i saw it in the pedia, for burning blood i have no clue if there is an already existing fitting button)
-if you merge the effects into the wildmana80.pak you will notice that there are already some of the same textures for the effects. this is no problem since they are the same textures so you can override them or leave them be (but don't forget the new ones)
basically i just wanted to make some effects and try them out. if you need additional spell effects let me know with a short description on how they should look like
tesb,
anything you need me to help with on this package?
you can provide feedback on the effects themselves. as long as no spells gets merged i would wait with pedia entries. i just wanted to create new effects the spells are a side effect of that
(you can view them directly via nifskope or by installing the files and test the spells(i recommend to lower mana cost in the xml and giving anything you need via worldbuilder)
also if you have new ideas for effects/spells feel free to post them. one thing i wanted to do is a flame effect that comes from the sky, hits the ground and explodes (like a pillar of flame from dnd).
edit: the bugs are just feedback for sephi, i guess he fixed them anyways already
the spells are a side effect of that (you can view them directly via nifskope or by installing the files and test the spells(i recommend to lower mana cost in the xml and giving anything you need via worldbuilder)
also if you have new ideas for effects/spells feel free to post them. one thing i wanted to do is a flame effect that comes from the sky, hits the ground and explodes (like a pillar of flame from dnd).
edit: the bugs are just feedback for sephi, i guess he fixed them anyways already
ok new effect is ready:
5) flame strike:
basically a cloud of flames appear and the flames fall to the bottom, than they change color slightly and go up to the air again which makes it look like an afterburn effect.
as you can see there is really no good way to show the spell effects in the forum (i don't have video recording software)
sephi if you have any requests on spell effects let me know
edit: i tweaked the colors slightly, the afterburn effect is more yellowish while the flamestrike itself is more red.
edit2:
download in post #75 (i uploaded the fixed version there)
5) flame strike:
Spoiler :
basically a cloud of flames appear and the flames fall to the bottom, than they change color slightly and go up to the air again which makes it look like an afterburn effect.
as you can see there is really no good way to show the spell effects in the forum (i don't have video recording software)
sephi if you have any requests on spell effects let me know
edit: i tweaked the colors slightly, the afterburn effect is more yellowish while the flamestrike itself is more red.
edit2:
download in post #75 (i uploaded the fixed version there)
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Well, I know there was a request the other day on #erebus for a storm effect with lightning through it. 
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
With clouds, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted.
Believe he wanted something more like the mist we'll be using in RifE with lightning in it, so the effect you posted may work anyway. He wants it to be persistent, I think.
Believe he wanted something more like the mist we'll be using in RifE with lightning in it, so the effect you posted may work anyway. He wants it to be persistent, I think.
7) thunderstorm done
this was quite a bit of work, since nearly all existing lightening strikes were billboard nodes (i.e. they would always face the camera) but this had a problem:
when looked from above the lightning would go from one end of the cloud to the other and not from cloud to ground. in this version is will always go from cloud to the ground, that means if looked from straight above you will barely see the lightning, if you see it at all
@valk
i don't know if this effect will work as a permanent thing (like an improvement, you just have to try for yourself)
more ideas please
edit: fixed version in post #76
Spoiler :
this was quite a bit of work, since nearly all existing lightening strikes were billboard nodes (i.e. they would always face the camera) but this had a problem:
when looked from above the lightning would go from one end of the cloud to the other and not from cloud to ground. in this version is will always go from cloud to the ground, that means if looked from straight above you will barely see the lightning, if you see it at all
@valk
i don't know if this effect will work as a permanent thing (like an improvement, you just have to try for yourself)
more ideas please
edit: fixed version in post #76
ok i refined the meteor and the flame strike (firestorm):
6) meteor:
instead of blastwaves (they did not look good imho) he will leave the ground burned
5)flams strike:
i tweaked the flamestrike a bit. note: the colors on the picture are not up to date with the file (in the file the flame is a bit less red and more orange/yellow
picture of meteor* and flamestrike** ingame:
*on the left it comes flying, on the upper right you see the flames from the meteor, also note: sephi implemented the spells with no firm target i.e. the spell will hit the tile, but where on the tile it hits is random (which i like). you can see this in the picture below the meteor on the left crashes a bit left to the barbarian adept while the meteor on the right crashed directly on him (the screenshots where from two different meteors) ==> the flames will appear where the meteor hit, so don't get confused by the picture those were to different meteors
**lower right
6) meteor:
instead of blastwaves (they did not look good imho) he will leave the ground burned
5)flams strike:
i tweaked the flamestrike a bit. note: the colors on the picture are not up to date with the file (in the file the flame is a bit less red and more orange/yellow
picture of meteor* and flamestrike** ingame:
*on the left it comes flying, on the upper right you see the flames from the meteor, also note: sephi implemented the spells with no firm target i.e. the spell will hit the tile, but where on the tile it hits is random (which i like). you can see this in the picture below the meteor on the left crashes a bit left to the barbarian adept while the meteor on the right crashed directly on him (the screenshots where from two different meteors) ==> the flames will appear where the meteor hit, so don't get confused by the picture those were to different meteors
**lower right
Spoiler :
ok i am done with all seven spells
-i fixed the netherblade so it will hit the middle of the tile now
-i made the lightning stronger for the stormclouds
i put all effect files in the attachment.
here are some more pictures
first row: flame strike
second row: nether blade
third row: stormcloud
fourth row: rift (just a slightly tweaked version of an already existing effect)
pictures of the meteor are above, i did not post pictures of the storm and the boiling blood though.
i will not touch those spells any further (unless there are requests), since deem them to be done
...now unto making new spell effects
-i fixed the netherblade so it will hit the middle of the tile now
-i made the lightning stronger for the stormclouds
i put all effect files in the attachment.
here are some more pictures
first row: flame strike
second row: nether blade
third row: stormcloud
fourth row: rift (just a slightly tweaked version of an already existing effect)
Spoiler :
pictures of the meteor are above, i did not post pictures of the storm and the boiling blood though.
i will not touch those spells any further (unless there are requests), since deem them to be done
...now unto making new spell effects
sorry but i needed to fix a minor issue with the meteor:
-the impact is now on the center of the tile
-the impact flames spawn a bit later, the previous version had them spawned a bit too early
i need more ideas about water spells (maybe geyser?)
and light magic (offensive) spells in general
the arcane missiles are easy to do but there is a problem: since the rotation of the spells is random when casted (i mentioned it earlier) the missiles will not emanate from the caster to the middle of the tile but from any random adjective tile, which makes the effect pointless.
if anyone has further ideas feel free to post them
-the impact is now on the center of the tile
-the impact flames spawn a bit later, the previous version had them spawned a bit too early
i need more ideas about water spells (maybe geyser?)
and light magic (offensive) spells in general
the arcane missiles are easy to do but there is a problem: since the rotation of the spells is random when casted (i mentioned it earlier) the missiles will not emanate from the caster to the middle of the tile but from any random adjective tile, which makes the effect pointless.
if anyone has further ideas feel free to post them
