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Marians: Sons of Mars
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Tani Coyote
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In light of Domination's war, it is clear war needs to be explained in detail.
Combat is already known and explained. It's simple enough - you order an attack, any armies stationed for defense purposes take the defense. RNG rolls are made, bonuses/penalties applied, and the victor is determined.
If the enemy defeats all defending armies, they can continue attacking, but akin to YuGiOu cards, it will be direct - they will take one province per surplus army.
If you're defeated on the attack, there's a 20% chance of your army being destroyed permanently. If defeated on the defense, 10%.
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NPC Intervention:
NPCs will never declare war unless they have a casus belli and also have less than -1 opinion of you. Their declaring of war on you varies, but is determined by 1-turn rolls.
Opinion of -2: 5%
Opinion of -3: 10%
Opinion of -4: 15%
Opinion of -5: 20%
Wars of aggression will kill you, as that adds +30% to their roll, though they will only roll it the turn you declare war. As the war continues, they will only add +5% to their roll each turn afterward, meaning it's rare for the NPCs to declare war after the first turn of a war of aggression. Wars of aggression also give them a casus belli and lower their opinion of you by -2, giving them the go ahead to beat the crap out of you.
If you have exhausted your armies for the turn, the NPC will add +2% for every spare army they have over you.
If you do not border eachother, they will remove -10%.
Every territory your enemy occupies adds +0.5% to your revolt risk. Every turn the war goes on, +0.2% RR is added to both side's RR.
Every territory you occupy contributes +0.1 to your province number, and accordingly, only 0.1% RR if you're over your support limit.
Questions are welcome.
Combat is already known and explained. It's simple enough - you order an attack, any armies stationed for defense purposes take the defense. RNG rolls are made, bonuses/penalties applied, and the victor is determined.
If the enemy defeats all defending armies, they can continue attacking, but akin to YuGiOu cards, it will be direct - they will take one province per surplus army.
If you're defeated on the attack, there's a 20% chance of your army being destroyed permanently. If defeated on the defense, 10%.
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NPC Intervention:
NPCs will never declare war unless they have a casus belli and also have less than -1 opinion of you. Their declaring of war on you varies, but is determined by 1-turn rolls.
Opinion of -2: 5%
Opinion of -3: 10%
Opinion of -4: 15%
Opinion of -5: 20%
Wars of aggression will kill you, as that adds +30% to their roll, though they will only roll it the turn you declare war. As the war continues, they will only add +5% to their roll each turn afterward, meaning it's rare for the NPCs to declare war after the first turn of a war of aggression. Wars of aggression also give them a casus belli and lower their opinion of you by -2, giving them the go ahead to beat the crap out of you.
If you have exhausted your armies for the turn, the NPC will add +2% for every spare army they have over you.
If you do not border eachother, they will remove -10%.
Every territory your enemy occupies adds +0.5% to your revolt risk. Every turn the war goes on, +0.2% RR is added to both side's RR.
Every territory you occupy contributes +0.1 to your province number, and accordingly, only 0.1% RR if you're over your support limit.
Questions are welcome.
GhostWriter16
Deity
So every NPC in the game lowers their opinion of me by 2? That seems unrealistic, 1 seems like enough...
And besides, its not a war of aggression, its a boundary dispute.
And besides, its not a war of aggression, its a boundary dispute.
Tani Coyote
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The mechanic operates on the idea most NPCs will have a 0 or -1 opinion of you. So long as you're not waging wars of aggression or religious wars, NPCs will never declare war on you, more or less. (Unless you do some nasty backstabbing)
A boundary dispute is when nation x claims territory A and then nation y claims that same territory. Nation X then gets a casus belli on nation y.
Ethiopia claimed parts of Sudan last turn, whereas you did not, meaning there is no dispute, only a violation of your SoI... but SoIs are not protected by game rules.
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*obligatory ancient remix of Hell March here*
The Nubians, believing all of Sudan to be their rightful land, have declared a war of aggression against the Ethiopians. The Axumites have built up their forces and have prepared to weather the coming storm... 13 Nubian legions against Axum's 7. With enough luck, Axum can emerge victorious and repel the Nubians, as well as repay the intended mischief with interest.
By default, Nubia gets +0.6 to all its rolls, with 8% applied on top of that.
23-5. 6 Axumite armies remain.
10-6. 5 Axumite armies remain.
9-23.
15-3. 4 Axumite armies remain.
10-24. The attacking army was destroyed.
14-3. 3 Axumite armies remain.
4-19. The attacking army was destroyed.
25-3. 2 Axumite armies remain.
1-13.
23-3. 1 Axumite force remains.
25. 0 Axumite forces remain.
Nubia's 2 surplus forces overrun two Ethiopian provinces. Despite fears that 13 legions would bring bad luck, Nubia has done well... having conquered 9 provinces!
However, Nubia did lose 2 of its 13 armies... it also now defenseless, due to all its forces being away on campaign! The people are not happy about this war either. Nationalist as they are, the Axumites didn't really do anything worth punishing besides trying to improve opportunities for their people, same as every other culture.
Making matters worse, besides the increased instability of the vast Nubian empire, the international community is unlikely to smile upon this behavior.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Before the Ethiopians counterattack or do anything else, we offer to pull out of seven of the 9 territories we took, only keeping the two Sudan territories, and sign a peace treaty. Sudan was all we wanted. Is Ethiopia interested?
Tani Coyote
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Axum would beg...
...but our informants tell us that, as dire as our situation is, with half our nation in Nubian hands, yours is worse - your people do not want this war, or the many sarcophagi you will (hopefully) assemble for the thousands of dead it is returning up the Nile.
Never mind we're afraid the rest of the world has yet to speak its mind.
Status quo antebellum or nothing. We have not suffered enough to never forgive you for this, but we will with time. Besides, we can tell our children that mighty Nubia lost countless men in Pyrrhic victories while Axum lost few in strategic retreats.
GhostWriter16
Deity
What is Status Quo Antebellum?
Tani Coyote
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"The way things were before the war." No indemnities from either side - we both return to pre-war borders.
Our necromancy is subpar, however, so we're afraid we cannot resurrect your two dead legions.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Duh.
How about this, we give you all of next turns income, you let us keep the two Sudan territories.
Tani Coyote
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48 gold?
The Axumite Emperor thinks long and hard... while many demand that Axum march all the way to Khartoum and drag their Emperor back to Axum itself for trial, it will only sacrifice 2 income per turn for a lump sum of 48, and this loss of provinces will easily be compensated by future expansion.
Plus, the fact Axum can go down in history as having gained two solid victories over Nubia and having repelled the invasion will do nicely for
Axum accepts the Nubian offer.
GhostWriter16
Deity
We thank them and decide to make peace. May it last a thousand years!
Also, when claiming the Sudan territories this turn, make sure the one that's left open is the one on the West that only I can get too.
Also, when claiming the Sudan territories this turn, make sure the one that's left open is the one on the West that only I can get too.
Tani Coyote
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The Re-Evaluation of the Nubian Empire
Nubia had enjoyed a long, rich history. For centuries, it had dominated the Middle East and African regions, and to fight Nubia was to fight God. It was the wealthiest, the largest, the most influential. It was the most bold, with a sizable army capable of repelling all threats foreign and domestic. Indeed, historians and analysts from all eras labeled it as the greatest power in the known world. Every state tried to get agents and merchants inside the court in Khartoum.
And then, Nubia invaded Axum...
It was no secret Hedjaz and various other minor states on the periphery of the Nubian empire feared its power.
...luckily, before any action could be taken, the Nubians made peace with Axum, generously donating an entire year's worth of income to them in exchange for the provinces that triggered the war. But what if they had continued their war of imperialism?
Hedjaz voted (10% + 30% + 10%) no.
Cyrene voted (10% + 30% + 4%) yes.
Mali voted (40% + 10%) no.
Kitara voted (40% + 4% - 10%) yes.
Carthage voted (15% + 30% + 16% - 10%) yes.
Kongo voted (10% + 30% + 10% - 10%) yes.
Persia voted (10% + 30% + 10% - 10%) yes.
Had Nubia continued its war, it would have lost 20 territories to an NPC horde. That's half its territory.
As these armies prepared to march into Nubia and devour it liked a horde of piranhas, they were informed the war was over. They shrugged and returned back home.
Nubia had enjoyed a long, rich history. For centuries, it had dominated the Middle East and African regions, and to fight Nubia was to fight God. It was the wealthiest, the largest, the most influential. It was the most bold, with a sizable army capable of repelling all threats foreign and domestic. Indeed, historians and analysts from all eras labeled it as the greatest power in the known world. Every state tried to get agents and merchants inside the court in Khartoum.
And then, Nubia invaded Axum...
It was no secret Hedjaz and various other minor states on the periphery of the Nubian empire feared its power.
...luckily, before any action could be taken, the Nubians made peace with Axum, generously donating an entire year's worth of income to them in exchange for the provinces that triggered the war. But what if they had continued their war of imperialism?
Hedjaz voted (10% + 30% + 10%) no.
Cyrene voted (10% + 30% + 4%) yes.
Mali voted (40% + 10%) no.
Kitara voted (40% + 4% - 10%) yes.
Carthage voted (15% + 30% + 16% - 10%) yes.
Kongo voted (10% + 30% + 10% - 10%) yes.
Persia voted (10% + 30% + 10% - 10%) yes.
Had Nubia continued its war, it would have lost 20 territories to an NPC horde. That's half its territory.
As these armies prepared to march into Nubia and devour it liked a horde of piranhas, they were informed the war was over. They shrugged and returned back home.
GhostWriter16
Deity
The Nubian Empire is happy a prolonged war was able to be avoided, and looks forward to ruling over its Kingdom in peace.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
Claims in red. Invest half in Civics and the other half in Infra.
When do we get the info on espionage??
-L
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
Canadian news
the Emperor wishes that Alaska would actually define what western Canada is.
in any case, put all the gold in civics again.
the Emperor wishes that Alaska would actually define what western Canada is.
in any case, put all the gold in civics again.
Tani Coyote
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The northwest-most Canadian territory, the islands around Alaska, Alberta and British Columbia.
-Germany
37 income. 26 buys Infra 3. 1 put towards Diplo 3.
Germany claims 2 provinces.
German might is put towards finishing off the bloody rebels in Jutland.
-Japan
19 put towards finishing Infra 2.
1 towards Civics 3.
Japan claims 3 Korean provinces and Hainan.
-Austria
39 gold finishes Civics 4.
Austria claims 3 provinces.
-Zululand claims 4 provinces, expanding northward. Research put towards Infra 3 and Civics 1.
Zululand also dispatches a group of soldiers to slaughter the Cape Town rebels, complete with goblets to bring their blood back to the High Chief to drink.
-India purchases Civics 5, and adopts hard work ethic.
5 provinces are claimed.
-Germany
37 income. 26 buys Infra 3. 1 put towards Diplo 3.
Germany claims 2 provinces.
German might is put towards finishing off the bloody rebels in Jutland.
-Japan
19 put towards finishing Infra 2.
1 towards Civics 3.
Japan claims 3 Korean provinces and Hainan.
-Austria
39 gold finishes Civics 4.
Austria claims 3 provinces.
-Zululand claims 4 provinces, expanding northward. Research put towards Infra 3 and Civics 1.
Zululand also dispatches a group of soldiers to slaughter the Cape Town rebels, complete with goblets to bring their blood back to the High Chief to drink.
-India purchases Civics 5, and adopts hard work ethic.
5 provinces are claimed.
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
the Emperor belives that what they want is actually reasonable, but the Shadow controller wants to grow a backbone and not bend rebels demands or anything.
so with our most sincere apologies to the rebels, we want them to surrender, or do this the hard way. i woudl really rather not waste hard earned human lives.
(surrendering gives them greater representation in the senate, as well as the right to decide their own laws, education, etc)
so with our most sincere apologies to the rebels, we want them to surrender, or do this the hard way. i woudl really rather not waste hard earned human lives.
(surrendering gives them greater representation in the senate, as well as the right to decide their own laws, education, etc)
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Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
*sigh* do the rebels actualy listen or do they just sharpen their weapons?
very well, i send an army to squish them.
very well, i send an army to squish them.
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Anarchy and its Opponents
Canada sends a force to the western wastes to eliminate the uprising in Alaska.
20-6
Germany sends two forces to obliterate the rebels.
12-22
10-21
Germany reluctantly sends its last force against them. 18-1. Germany conquers Denmark anew.
Zululand sends its army to exterminate the Cape. 3-18.
21-21. Another pack of rebels wiped out.
Canada sends a force to the western wastes to eliminate the uprising in Alaska.
20-6
Germany sends two forces to obliterate the rebels.
12-22
10-21
Germany reluctantly sends its last force against them. 18-1. Germany conquers Denmark anew.
Zululand sends its army to exterminate the Cape. 3-18.
21-21. Another pack of rebels wiped out.
