Methods of Capital Punishment

[ApocalypseKurtz]

Originally posted by santo67

Why does this country of mine have so much crime? Because we have this little thing that prevents Cruel and Unusual punishment. And, thus, all the criminals claim that every little discomfort in their lives is 'cruel and unusual', such as not having air conditioning or a TV. As a result, our prisons end up being built like freakin' Holiday Inns at the Tax Payer's expense.

Congratulations, you have just bought politicians' myth hook, line and sinker. Have you ever seen the inside of a prison yourself? I have, and believe me it is no paradise. Public money is rarely spent into improving or fixing prisons, and so they are the most unsanitary and dangerous places in the U.S.

If our prisons are built like Holiday Inns then why such a high suicide rate for prisoners? On top of that you gotta watch out for Bubba in the shower (dont drop the soap).

In addition to the physical conditions of prisons and the dangerous and psychotic people inside of them, the isolation from all of your friends and family must be unbearable. Imagine one day being thrown into a 10 x 10 cell, not being able to see your loved ones for months.

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by santo67
Put fear into their lives! Let those about to commit a crime know that the punishment will be very Cruel and most Unusual. As President, I would create a new Cabinet department, devoted to thinking up interesting new ways to punish people. There would be specific punishments for every crime.

Sounds like there could be room for you in Simon's shadow cabinet.

Anyway, we shouldn't go on hyjacking his precious thread with evil discussions about sense or nonsense of the death penalty.
I fear his wrath!!!

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Originally posted by Hitro

Sounds like there could be room for you in Simon's shadow cabinet.

Anyway, we shouldn't go on hyjacking his precious thread with evil discussions about sense or nonsense of the death penalty.
I fear his wrath!!!

All applications to be part of the Evil Tyranncy are to be made in triplicate to the strange man standing on the corner of your street talking into his sleeve.

And it is not my "precious thread". It is just a thread that should be shown respect like any other, by following the guidelines put forth. As I have said, there is plenty of other stuff on the rights and wrongs of the death penalty, without intruding onto this collection of musings on the mechanics of execution.

And rightly ye should fear my wrath. Engelbert Humperdinck will await otherwise.....

 

[santo67]

Okay, I didn't mean to glorify prison life quite the way I did. My point was that a lot of prisoners are well fed, given daily exercise, books, air conditioning, tv, etc. All in a 10x10x10 cube, yes. Isolated, yes. And this is fine for the most minor, misdemeanor crimes.

To stop the big ones, there needs to harsher penalties, longer sentences, work camps in Alaska, thumb screws, iron maidens, and the like. Recent events have shown us that not all criminals are afraid of death. Heck, ole' Tim McVeigh asked for the death penalty. And he got exactly what he wanted. Why? The death penalty is not always a deterrant. Toil, sweat, and pain would do a better job.

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[damunzy]

For me the threat of being stuck in prison, the way it is now, is enough. To people that may not have anything to lose (extreemly poor/dieing/insane) I can certainly understand taking a risk to improve your situation.....doesn't mean I think it is right though. As to what method I would choose, even though I am currently leaning towards getting rid of the death penalty: Beheading
I think with our technology today we can make a perfect chopping implement that won't be causing these horrible deaths the can happen with shocking someone and who knows for sure how bad injections are (gas sounds horrible also, it is frowned upon for us to use it in war).

 

[philippe]

you people make me sick.
you say oh let them be tortured or
like that like CASTRATE THE RAPER what if the so called raper was inncocent?he will not have children anymore you destroyed his life
no children without a reason the best death is lethal injection because a bullet in the head is so barbaric.but i am completely against death penalty but this is not the matter but the matter is wich way and then i scose lethal injection

 

[Hamlet]

Originally posted by monkeyman116
I thought there was a clause in the British legal system meaning that Capital Punishment cannot be overridden by any other law;

Errrr, that would be unconstitutional.

 

[duke o' york]

Throw 'em to the lions! If they manage to fight off the starving blood-crazed beasts then they are granted a full pardon and are given jobs in Simon's personal bodyguard.

 

[Hamlet]

Originally posted by allan2
PURE justice is making the person suffer exactly the way his victim suffered.

No it isn't. That's simple retribution, which, is as has been discussed, a nonsense.

We have justice. Not revenge tempered with mercy.

I.E, what is just; that which is just for the circumstances, or simple fairness for all parties.

Besides, you're overtly focusing on criminal justice. Where does your concept of 'justice' fit into civil law?

My definition is interchangerble between criminal and civil law, whereas yours is focused around an abstract idea of revenge tempered with mercy which fits badly into criminal law, and does not fit with civil law at all.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Nice idea, duke, but I don't take on amateurs.

PH: Swift beheading does sound effective and comparatively clean, but there is the continual question on whether consciousness/some semblance of life continues after decapitation. The French did a series of experiments on these, and there was some indication that something might be going on for a second or two.
But apart from that, it is a good notion, and certainly combines humanity for the subject with a due sense of horror for the audience.
And of course the executioner can always raise the head for the watching people and proclaim something dramatic...

And, for the umpteenth time, keep the other stuff out of here. Too difficult to comprehend.
And for our little friend phillipe: That's nice, my dear little boy. Now run along and get to class; the adults are talking.

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
(alternatively, "get out of Hiroshima", as long as ye attribute it to Harry Truman. )

IF YOU FIND THE DEATH PENALTY SO SICKENING AND OBJECTIONAL, THEN DON'T LOOK AT THE THREAD, NOR FEEL OBLIGED TO SPAM IT WITH YOUR UNWANTED OPINION.

Crikey, is common courtesy dead?

 

[duke o' york]

Yes it is, I had it beheaded and am currently drinking mead from its skull.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Tsk. Mead out of a skull. How uncouth. Anyone with breeding knows that you drink fermented horse's milk out of a hollowed out skull...

 

[Sixchan]

I thought it was the elixir of evil you drank from a jeweled skull.

But maybe that's just what I do.

 

[SunTzu]

Idea! Ok now i think all of the sick mofo's should be executed,but the others who are serving life sentences should be sent to an island that is set up so no one can get off of it, like that movie....hmmm damn forgot it
Anyways just leave them onthe island ad maybe accidentally test a nuke on the island;-)

 

[LordAzreal]

Not that I agree with this whole capital punishment thing, but if I did...

Shooting is just an utter waste of bullets and perfectly good organs which could go to save innocent lives, unless its just one man with a pistol, aiming for the temple bone (who would want the brain of a criminal anyway?).
:die!:

Lethal Injection is perhaps the most humane (as long as the sedatives are adequate). But nobody wants to watch that.


Electrocution can be quite a mess. Sometimes amusing though (as long as the bastard deserved it).


Lethal Gas is horrible. Reminds me of Holocaust. Definitely the worst one here, purely because it has connotations with the worst humanitarian crisis in history since Genghis Khan.


Hanging is so medieval. One snap and its over. There's also no guarantee that their neck will snap (even if the chances of their neck remaining intact are slim).


Beheading is another one that's too medieval. Makes a huge mess. And I'm not cleaning it up.


Burning is yet another horrible, medieval way. It reminds me of the horrors of medieval Europe and the Spanish Inquisition.
:flamedevi

Impalement... Ewwwwww!!!!!! Need I say any more?

 

[duke o' york]

Hollywood might tell you differently, but you don't actually take on the persona of someone after a brain transplant.
Also, you didn't really say which of the methods was your favourite.

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by duke o' york
Hollywood might tell you differently, but you don't actually take on the persona of someone after a brain transplant.

Have there been any brain transplants recently?
Who tells you that if you would transplant the whole(!) brain the persona wouldn't be transplanted? Where else should it be 'stored'?

 

[LordAzreal]

Originally posted by duke o' york
Hollywood might tell you differently, but you don't actually take on the persona of someone after a brain transplant.
Also, you didn't really say which of the methods was your favourite.

I know that. I was just fooling around.

As I already said, I don't condone the death penalty. But if I did, I guess my favourite would either be Lethal Injection, as it is the most humane, or otherwise electrocution because, admit it: it can put on a good show.

 

[Apollo]

Nobody commented on the use of the iron maiden. It's efficient, quick, cheap, and clean. Well, maybe not so clean after the 100th victim in a hour, but a fire hose will clean it up in a jiffy.

 

[History_Buff]

Pesonally, i think, while not exactly capital, that being poked with a blunt stick for the rest of your life would be paricularly bad. But a good quartering wouldn't be so bad.

Four ropes. . . check. Ropes tied to each wrist and ankle. . . check. One horse at each end of rope. . . check. Splat. . . defineatly check.