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the reason USN is fielding the Subpar is that Randy Cunningham was blackmailed with all his "good" stuff , F-22N was still supposed to be on the table and Lockmart promised not only the Moon but the Sun with the Footpad . F-14D and whatever its descendants were supposed to be called would do anything the Subpar can , in addition to fighting in the air . As far as it's discussed the current primary US Navy aerial thing is the Standart missile and where will the flattops be if the USAF doesn't cover them ?
 
The Spider looks like a good system apart from the legal option. It would leave captured US troops who deployed the system exposed to conviction for war crimes.
 
The Spider looks like a good system apart from the legal option. It would leave captured US troops who deployed the system exposed to conviction for war crimes.

Nah, if it comes to that we will just tell the U.N. we will destroy our remaining stocks in a couple of years.
Provided that they pay us ten billion dollars to do it.

Worked for Syria, and Russia will certainly endorse it.
 
Scorpion: The Light Attack Jet Nobody Asked For
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The announcement this week by Cessna parent Textron that it is pitching a new budget light attack jet to the Pentagon had us scratching our heads. The military hasn't asked for anything like this, and with defense spending facing sharp cuts we have to ask if an airplane Textron calls the Scorpion stands any chance of making it into production.

Equally as puzzling is the choice of a partner for the project. Rather than enlist engineers at Cessna or Textron's other aviation unit, Bell Helicopter, to lead the program, the company has instead formed a joint venture with a small startup called AirLand Enterprises, created by former defense officials including retired Air Force Secretary F. Whitten Peters.


Textron and AirLand announced plans for the Scorpion yesterday at an Air Force Association technology conference outside Washington, D.C. Textron CEO Scott Donnelly revealed that work on the project started early this year at the Cessna factory in Wichita and that a flying prototype will be ready to take to the skies in a few short months.

He noted that the Scorpion is being developed precisely because of tight budgets. Described as a "versatile Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR)/Strike aircraft platform," the Scorpion will cost less to buy and operate than other military airplanes and drones currently used for border patrol, narcotics intervention and spy missions. Textron is reportedly targeting an operating cost of around $3,000 an hour versus nearly 10 times that much for some platforms in use now.

As described by Textron and AirLand Enterprises, the Scorpion is a twin-engine jet with a straight wing and tandem seating. The engines are reportedly Honeywell TFE731s and the avionics will come from Cobham. Standard empty weight would be 11,800 pounds and max takeoff weight 21,250 pounds. The jet would have a top speed of 450 knots and a ceiling of 45,000 feet. Though not a Cessna project, initial low-rate production would be performed at Cessna's Wichita factory.

Officials from Textron and AirLand Enterprises have pitched the concept to the Air Force. There has been no word on the reaction, but even if the Pentagon decided it wanted an airplane like the Scorpion, it couldn't simply place an order. There first would need to be a lengthy design review process followed by a formal competition.

Read more at http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/jets/scorpion-light-attack-jet-nobody-asked#fvSR0DuJoaHX8quK.99
http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/jets/scorpion-light-attack-jet-nobody-asked
 
I agree, I also figure that the only market it will get access to is the export market to our allies. It reminds me a lot of the F-5, which was also developed without Pentagon approval and ended up being sold mostly to our allies. It was a capable craft, as I'm sure this one is, but was hobbled in the American market by the Pentagon being wedded to legacy systems and notions about what a good fighter should be (really fast!!!!!!111!11!1) rather than what a good fighter actually was.

The F-5 was pretty fantastic as a fighter and I'm sure this attack fighter would be good as a bomber. But the Pentagon isn't going to give up it's precious F-35. Though countries that are currently waiting for their F-35's to arrive, or who can't afford them in the first place, will probably give this one some consideration.
 
Equally as puzzling is the choice of a partner for the project. Rather than enlist engineers at Cessna or Textron's other aviation unit, Bell Helicopter, to lead the program, the company has instead formed a joint venture with a small startup called AirLand Enterprises, created by former defense officials including retired Air Force Secretary F. Whitten Peters.

How is this puzzling? :crazyeye: It's about as obvious as possible.
 
pulling wool over the eyes , in case there is anybody still left interestable in the US Aviation industry .
 


From the article:
“The first of the Chinese Type 052D destroyers has been recently seen on sea trials in the East China Sea.
This new destroyer design appears very similar to the American Aegis equipped destroyers (especially the Burke Class).”


Type 52D class reference.
 
Except the Vertical Launch System cells. Where an American ship would have 30-40, that ship has 8. :p
 
Is that a minigun creating all that smoke and its operator talking on a phone during the firing?

A leafblower gone wild while its operator calls his mama to say g'bye?

What i s that?
 
Two soldiers. One plugging his ears while the other is firing a type of a shoulder-braced rocket. Probably the backblast raised the leaves.
 
Interesting launcher...thanks.
 
Two soldiers. One plugging his ears while the other is firing a type of a shoulder-braced rocket. Probably the backblast raised the leaves.

One is speaking to a phone and the other just passed gas.
 
Edit: Whoopsss, this is the Chamber.
 
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