Mobius: Total Chaos

Look. The war is won by battles, not by economy.

War is decided by economy. It is decided by the population. You can have the best troops in the world, but overwhelming odds will still win. To put it simply, a qoute by a man whose planet is now a rock floating in space, "You can kill ten of my men for every one I kill of yours, but even at those odds, you will lose and I will win" .
 
I think 4 of your armies attacked my guys on Angel Island. I killed 1 and took another captive. I'll give you your PoWs back if you give me those 6 AI territories.
 
We still won you and we did a counter offensive. You just play it the strong guy because you have the support of the b*stards o1 or how they are called.
 
In Christos' defense, he does have

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On his side.

Tried being an expansionist superpower. But then Industrial power was nerfed and Industry price went up.

Well, actually, if you made peace, you could very easily industrialise rapidly this turn and become super wealthy. Case in point - you'd be able to reach .6 Industry if you went fully Industry with your money.

UBS is a cool guy; I think peace might be negotiable.

As an industrial power, you also have access to the Industrial Complex superweapon, which grants extra growth per turn. (If a bit expensive)

Except I don't have the foggiest what the hell is going on! I don't even know if I'm peace at war! Tanny told me nothing about the Ottoman situation, just "Here you go, have fun".

You are at peace.

Right now, the Turks and Morgal(AA) are having high tensions over Angel Island. AA has proposed returning Turkish POWs in exchange for the Ottomans pulling out of the western region of the island. Or, to rephrase - give up 6 provinces and he'll give you 1 POW.
 
Greece, ask Ottomans, for a pact of friendship ( OB), in order to create some new better relation. The old << Greek vs Turk >> fight is just unrealistic right now.

"If your nation needs a pact to be friends with, then it isn't worth being friends with that nation."- Emperor Mehmed XL on foreign relationships during a previous imperial world conquest

I must echo my forefather's sentiments on this policy

I think 4 of your armies attacked my guys on Angel Island. I killed 1 and took another captive. I'll give you your PoWs back if you give me those 6 AI territories.

Or; its my land now. White peace otherwise.
 
Screw it, what would those pink dudes want for peace?
 
We still won you and we did a counter offensive. You just play it the strong guy because you have the support of the b*stards o1 or how they are called.

Will Greece accept the treaty, offer a counter treaty, or continue the war?
 
We offered. Combine will return all Greek lands back to Greece and Greece will do the same with Combine lands.
 
We offered. Combine will return all Greek lands back to Greece and Greece will do the same with Combine lands.

Since the Combine and UMS have a clear production and military advantage over Greece (outproduce Greece 3:1 and with higher quality militaries), isn't it prudent that Greece at least attempt to offer concessions?
 
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No. We will accept your peace except part 1,2,3,4,5,9,13,14,15,16
 
So, do you accept my final offer?
 
So, do you accept my final offer?

The military limits and reparations have to happen. The military limits can't be budged. The size of the reparations, however can. The territorial concessions can only be lightly negotiated.

1.) The executive leader of Greece is to be charged with supreme offense against international morality. He is to be tried as a war criminal.

2.) Greece will accept sole responsibility for the war on the Combine that has devastated the populations of the continent. As such, Greece is to be accountable for all damage to civilian populations of the Combine.

3.) Greece's military will be limited to 100,000 soldiers (ten divisions) and conscription is to be abolished.

4.) Greece's navy will be limited to a totality of five naval squadrons (five navies)

5.) The export of military aid to a warring power or the import of weapons for the purpose of expanding the military is to be abolished.

6.) Greece will not be allowed to construct weapons of mass destruction or the mechanization programs.

7.) Greece is forbidden from using or stockpiling black energy, red energy, blue energy, or cyan energy.

8.) Greece is forbidden from having half the military technological capability of either the Ottoman Empire, Combine, of United Mechanical States.

9.) Greece is to pay $100 a year for five years to Combine to cover damages.

10.) Greece is to swear never to launch a war of aggression ever again.

11.) Greece is to turnover all occupied Combine territory. The Central Region will be divided into a Combine and UMS occupation zone.

12.) Combine will turn over certain Greek territories (check the map)

13.) The UMS and Combine will occupy the border regions of the core Greek territory. Should Greece succeed in paying back the $500 owned to the Combine, the border regions will be turned back over to Greece.

14.) If Greece is incapable of paying a $100 a turn, they are free to take out a 5% loan from the Ottoman Empire, Combine, or UMS to make up the difference.

15.) Greece is not allowed to take borrow loans from any other nation than the above three.

16.) Failure to pay in a year will result in further territorial concessions.

17.) The Combine is to turn over Greek prisoners at a rate of eight divisions (8 divisions) per turn following the payment of that year's reparations.
 
I accept except part 1 and 2. They started the war, and i refuse to take the responsibility for something i didnt do, while they did more damage on us than we did to them.
 
I accept except part 1 and 2. They started the war, and i refuse to take the responsibility for something i didnt do, while they did more damage on us than we did to them.

Fair enough. Articles 1 and 2 are void. Accept?
 
Accept.

Dammit. And i was winning the war.

ooc: That peace reminds me WW1 peace. Only that a few years later Germany almost took over the entire world. Be careful, because history repeats.
 
White peace offer with USB
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I will cede light green provinces, USB will cede dark green.
Accept?


Build 25 troops, indicated on map.
Rest into Industry


Red lines=killing mutants and rebels.
 
After the Greek people hearing about many proud great victories against the superior combine, who attacked their country, killed their families, destroyed their economy, they heard that 01 took the side of combine. Not only that but they accused the Greek people, that they started the war, while Combine attacked them. Then in the radio the prime minister said << Greece is now a defeated nation that has to live without honor. We have betrayed all those who died to defend our motherland. God forgive us. >>. Then the prime minister committed suicide. At the same time the youth starting to do protests against the << imperialist liars>> 01 and capitalism. The communist party was gaining ground. In the next election the democrats won, but the communist party became the main opposition.
 
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