[mod] Warlords: Total Realism 2.3a

Why can we Not make any Iron Smith only bronze??

Major iron smiths are represented by forges and blast furnaces (that get a production bonus with iron now). Basically, the idea is that bronze is harder to work and more expensive than iron, hence you can't make bronze stuff without skilled smiths and such, while any village blacksmith can work iron.
 
I was trying to play a game as England, but I cant imagine anything more boring, nothing to do except to click end of turn until you research BW and Sailing and then when you try to invade the continent everybody has already a large army, sigh!
Furthermore, barbarian trireme are all around, destroying fish boats and galleys.
Nothing to do to make England more playable?
 
I was trying to play a game as England, but I cant imagine anything more boring, nothing to do except to click end of turn until you research BW and Sailing and then when you try to invade the continent everybody has already a large army, sigh!
Furthermore, barbarian trireme are all around, destroying fish boats and galleys.
Nothing to do to make England more playable?

Dunno, I like playing England, it is an ideal builder civ. Early on you don't have to worry about army, and later on fleet is your wooden wall. I usually keep off the continent altogether.
 
I was trying to play a game as England, but I cant imagine anything more boring, nothing to do except to click end of turn until you research BW and Sailing and then when you try to invade the continent everybody has already a large army, sigh!
Furthermore, barbarian trireme are all around, destroying fish boats and galleys.
Nothing to do to make England more playable?

I disagree. England isn't boring. It's just that England is not a civ for warmonger.

With a strong fleet and a few units, you can be safe for a long time. You can then try to build wonder after wonder.
Japan can be played like that too (after the conquest of Ainu).

I even made a game where i succeded in colonizing some places in Indonesia and Australia. England rules the Seas was my topic...

Hian the Frog.
 
hi all ! I'm new here but long TR (and so TR team ;-) ) fan.
I first want to congrats all TR team members for their incredible works on this mod. A total new civ4 experience if you ask me. You have past a lot of time on it and you deserve all our respect.

And second.... erf, a bug report i fear. Just want to tell you about a CTD without message when i discover railroad tech in TR 2.3. In the end of the turn, when i go for the tech message ---------> CTD !

Arf. That's all, thanks again for the mod, and VERY thanks for the AMX 56 leclerc in the game ! it rocks.

EDIT: apparently the tech is not in cause, i change it before the turn's end and it crashes however.
 

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I was trying to play a game as England, but I cant imagine anything more boring, nothing to do except to click end of turn until you research BW and Sailing and then when you try to invade the continent everybody has already a large army, sigh!
Furthermore, barbarian trireme are all around, destroying fish boats and galleys.
Nothing to do to make England more playable?

What the hell are you talking about I conquer the world with churchill I like the Brits they kick ass!!
Try to hurry and build Spear men to protect against barbarians and keep trying to build World Wonders so can get engineers Or other great people My Favorite Doctrine is Imperial Glory and I Guarantee One virgin every year for 1000 years from all corners of your Empire, Power,Glory,Riches beyond your wildest Dreams!!!:D
 
hi all ! I'm new here but long TR (and so TR team ;-) ) fan.
I first want to congrats all TR team members for their incredible works on this mod. A total new civ4 experience if you ask me. You have past a lot of time on it and you deserve all our respect.

And second.... erf, a bug report i fear. Just want to tell you about a CTD without message when i discover railroad tech in TR 2.3. In the end of the turn, when i go for the tech message ---------> CTD !

Arf. That's all, thanks again for the mod, and VERY thanks for the AMX 56 leclerc in the game ! it rocks.

EDIT: apparently the tech is not in cause, i change it before the turn's end and it crashes however.

Thanks. We will look at that.

Serais tu Français par hasard ? L'AMX-56 Leclerc est un ajout de ma part. Probalement le meilleur char du monde.... ;)

Hian the Frog.
 
Oui je suis francais, je me doutais bien que tu étais l'instigateur de l'ajout du leclerc lol. Tant mieux, très bien modélisé d'ailleurs.

The prob is than i can't reach modern age ! and play that baby snif....
 
What the hell are you talking about I conquer the world with churchill I like the Brits they kick ass!!
Try to hurry and build Spear men to protect against barbarians and keep trying to build World Wonders so can get engineers Or other great people My Favorite Doctrine is Imperial Glory and I Guarantee One virgin every year for 1000 years from all corners of your Empire, Power,Glory,Riches beyond your wildest Dreams!!!:D

As TR team members understood, I'm saying that as warmonger :-)
I know England can be safe with very few units and build a lot of wonders because it's often leading in research, but I like TR especially for the great variety of units and the possibilities to be costantly in war. I like to get many generals and found doctrines and use them in battles, I love doctrines!
As Japan you can still be a warmonger, usually I conquer Korea, China and Mongolia very early in the game, as England is not so easy, but maybe I have to try some new strategies with research.
England kick ass only because AI cant organize a massive landing force, when I play German or Roman, England cant see 1 AD :-)
Anyway, the best mod I ever seen, no reason to play Civ4 without TR!
Thanks a lot guys!
 
We just congratulated each other for the strenght of our wonderful MBT.
It's the last time ;)

That's right ! A wonderful MBT....

You can go there to speak in french with me if you prefer.
http://www.civ4.houmie.com/forum

Register yourself and go to the non english forums topic. There, we can use a "normal" language..... ours ! ;)

Hian the Frog.
 
We just congratulated each other for the strenght of our wonderful MBT.

Bah...and whose arm had to be twisted to make the Leclerc the dominant late game tank? That's pretty strong placement for a largely unproven tank.
 
TR team: I seem to have found a bug (or it maybe my underpowered PC). Occasionally, when I go to save a game, I get a "memory allocation error" and a CTD. It does not happen all the time and only started after about 250 turns. I'm playing v. 2.2 as Rome. Otherwise this is a GREAT mod!!

jimmygeo
 
Bah...and whose arm had to be twisted to make the Leclerc the dominant late game tank? That's pretty strong placement for a largely unproven tank.

Leclerc is a tank killer (so eventually add to it a tank kill bonus). But I absolutly don't care about this. Seeing my national tank in the game makes me feels happy enough.

(Flame mod on :lol:: does F22 has been proved ? nor F35 ? nor Leopard 2A6 ? Flame mod off).


On topic again:

Modders ! can you explain me why the only bronze smith i have (with one copper) is deactivated every 7-8 turns ? And, most of all, can it doesn't always cancel ALL the construction list when it occurs.

Thanks for all ! Again, great work !
 
Bah...and whose arm had to be twisted to make the Leclerc the dominant late game tank? That's pretty strong placement for a largely unproven tank.

Man,

I was a gunner in a Tank in the French Army. I had had training with some German, American, Italian, etc armored regiments and divisions. I'm sure of two things: Leclerc is among the best tank in the world. But, more important is the training of the crew. Here is the real difference.
There are only a few tanks in world that are really awesome and powerful. (Challenger II, Abrams - late model, Leopard IIA6M and maybe Chinese Type-99, Russian T-90 and Indian Arjun).
What makes the real difference is the global tactics, training, support...

Back to the mod: if you really look at the mod, there are no great difference between all the most modern tanks. They are more or less the same.

When we add them, our wish was to give all these units some bonuses linked to either the model by itself, either the general tactic, etc.

To conclude: you are right. This tank can be seen as an "unproven" one. Maybe it's because France isn't as prone to go to war as USA (for example).... Maybe... But this is another problem.

Hian the Frog.
 
Here's an updated dll. Bear in mind, it wasn't properly tested by me, as I'm currently ill and can't spend much time at my comp (especially doing something thoughtfully and methodically) - thus you're very much advised to back up your old dll beforehand. Still, I thought it was a good idea to post it ASAP, especially for people with CTD saves. Please, keep us updated on any errors, new or remaining - as this dll version is a candidate for the FINAL installer build, and any bugs not reported (and fixed) will remain with TR 2.3 forever.

Once again, the attached file contains some bugfixes, but is untested. Be sure to back up your current dll before installing it. Thank you.
 

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I don't think anyone would disrespect the Leclerc, but in most of the discussions I've read/had, there were concerns over its light weight, comparatively limited protection, low amount of ready ammunition, (22 rounds immediately accessable to the auto-loader before you have to refill that.) and its auto-loader. (a design decision that noone but the Russians have ever thought was a good idea)

Its certainly quick, but not substantially quicker than the other MBT's. Its arguably the most maneuverable MBT out there, but the quick surge of acceleration given by the Abrams' gas turbine potentially puts it a close second. While those things are ENORMOUS gas guzzlers, their simplicity, relative silence, and power-to-weight ratio is some of the best in the game. The types of armor in use on these things are always semi-secret, but I've heard it suggested that their version is inferior to the latest Chobham armor, although that's probably impossible to confirm.

And I've read about a dozen competing claims on accuracy, rate of fire and the speeds at which they can do it. I've also heard the merits of its fire control/target acquisition systems. I think both the Challenger and the Abrams use a Canadian version. Haven't been able to find competent information on which is better.

Its gun is slightly shorter than the German/British varieties. Abrams are of course are the shortest around, but make up for it by using DU rounds.


I don't think there's anything approaching a consensus on the MBT thing, but there seems to be a slight plurality out there rating the latest Leopard as the best, followed by the Abrams, with alot of competing claims out there on the Challenger 2, Leclerc, and even the Merkava (though I'd disagree with its placement amongst the elite MBT's, too specialized).

Than again, that trend can mean nothing. Since most of the people commenting have never been inside a tank and are basing their information on a ton of googling. (like me :) )

(Flame mod on : does F22 has been proved ? nor F35 ? nor Leopard 2A6 ? Flame mod off).

The difference is of course that not a single 5th generation fighter has been seriously tested in combat. While multiple modern generation MBT's have. (but not the Leclerc)

All of those aforementioned tanks are quality designs that in the hands of a better trained crew, have a good chance of fairing well against any of the others.

To conclude: you are right. This tank can be seen as an "unproven" one. Maybe it's because France isn't as prone to go to war as USA (for example).... Maybe... But this is another problem.

How can you hope to win any military hardware pissing contests if you don't stomp on some defenseless third world nations every few years? (j/k of course)
 
Here's an updated dll. Bear in mind, it wasn't properly tested by me, as I'm currently ill and can't spend much time at my comp (especially doing something thoughtfully and methodically) - thus you're very much advised to back up your old dll beforehand. Still, I thought it was a good idea to post it ASAP, especially for people with CTD saves. Please, keep us updated on any errors, new or remaining - as this dll version is a candidate for the FINAL installer build, and any bugs not reported (and fixed) will remain with TR 2.3 forever.

Once again, the attached file contains some bugfixes, but is untested. Be sure to back up your current dll before installing it. Thank you.

Thanks for this will try out asap.
 
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