NES2 V - The Great Game.

[Disenfrancised]

&Dis- No, attacking politicians is old-style terrorism, and it doesn't create as furious a reaction among the public.

Individual politicians yes, nation symbols such as the king and important buildings no. It all depends on what Thlayli has planned to do really...assuming he succeeds...

War statistics (in a attempt to cheer das up )

This world war* has already beaten OTL WWI in casualities among the armed forces with approximately 19 million** to 9 million, and we are catching to WW2's 25 million at a heady pace! The bloodiest year of the war so far has been 1867 (there has been a steady decline in casualities in 1868-9). The largest losses have been by the FK at over 2.5 million men, closely followed by Muscovy with 2.2 million and the third place pack of Poland, China and the HRE all at nearly 2 million each!*** The bloodiest threatre of the war to date has been the Livonian struggle with over 4 million dead - nice work guys!

*Taking the outbreak of Anglo-French Hostilities in 1866 as the start of the war on a global scale.
**Assumes an average of 10 thousand men to a division.
***Note assumes Nationalist, Provisional, The old French Empire, and republican france as seperate entities, additionally exact losses at the fall of various factions is undocumented.

 

[Thlayli]

Eh, when Emperor Ferdinand was killed the Empire fell apart, angry reaction aside. Not to say that I tried to kill the King or anything...

Dis, those statistics are nice. Although the "casualties" posted in the updates include killed, captured, wounded, and lost/missing/disorganized...not simply death.

 

[Dachs]

Ferdinand wasn't the Emperor, he was the Archduke.

Those statistics are scary and 1337.

 

[Thlayli]

Emperor Ferdinand-Philippe of France, in this timeline. He was killed by Federate assassins at the beginning of the war.

Ironic, though, that WWI in ATL and OTL began with the killing of a Ferdinand...

Spooky.

EDIT: Oh, 155 posts until this passes ITNES.

 

[Dachs]

Oops. You know, I wasn't there at that point in the NES...

 

[1889]

Great work on those statistics Dis. In some instances a few numbers can provide more atmosphere than a dozen story posts.

Thanks

 

[Dachs]

What about the various navies of factions? Counting those, especially that massive battle in the Straits of Hormuz between Persia and the Federates, there'll be an even more massive casualty count...

 

[Disenfrancised]

Naval losses aren't that impressive though - I have crunched the numbers, but since das has not stated how many ships there are per squadron...I'm going to assume...10?

The largest naval engagements that have occured so far have been in Far Eastern war of FK, Dalnorossia and Siam verses Qing China in 1867 when roughly a thousand ships were sunk in the various operations. The FK again have experinced the largest total losses of 810 ships over the 3 years of the war, but some nations have had their entire navies annilated...

Dis, those statistics are nice. Although the "casualties" posted in the updates include killed, captured, wounded, and lost/missing/disorganized...not simply death.

I know, but tis more fun this way

 

[North King]

Well, since in this World War, we don't have much modern medicine, I'd imagine we've still got a substantial number of those killed. This IS for a certainty bloodier than our real World War One...

 

[1889]

With a crew of almost 400 in a sailed frigate and 800 or more in a battleship that's easily another million men lost at sea.

Also what Dis mentioned are only the military casualties, I mean if you believe the propaganda coming out of Persia the Federates are slaughtering whole towns.

 

[Disenfrancised]

With a crew of almost 400 in a sailed frigate and 800 or more in a battleship that's easily another million men lost at sea.

Indeed.

Also what Dis mentioned are only the military casualties, I mean if you believe the propaganda coming out of Persia the Federates are slaughtering whole towns.

And if you pay attention the Federate news reports* the Persians are devastating whole cities...and as for Poland; this is silver we're talking about .

*Which are certainly not propoganda

 

[Thlayli]

Not to mention, the Federates were threatening to torture our gifted scientists, who are working on very important projects.

 

[ThomAnder]

Indeed.

and as for Poland; this is silver we're talking about anyway .

*Which are certainly not propoganda

tenchar

 

[Disenfrancised]

Not to mention, the Federates were threatening to torture our gifted scientists, who are working on very important projects.

Surely by releasing the information about the Scientists kidnap and recovery you merely restate their importance .
Oh and btw I think you put considerable overemphasis on the individual researcher and seem to think just snatching them will give you everything they would have come up with OTL; research, particularly as one approaches the modern era becomes more and more incremental, cooperative, and synergistic...but whatever.

 

[Stormbringer]

Ferdinand in this NES was killed by Republican radicals. OOC I had some stuff to do with officer assassinations, but the Emperor was killed by the radicals.

 

[Thlayli]

Surely by releasing the information about the Scientists kidnap and recovery you merely restate their importance .
Oh and btw I think you put considerable overemphasis on the individual researcher and seem to think just snatching them will give you everything they would have come up with OTL; research, particularly as one approaches the modern era becomes more and more incremental, cooperative, and synergistic...but whatever.

Eh? Adat didn't do anything OTL...he could have been a street sweeper for all I care. As for Ignacy, I still think his work with petroleum will be successful.

It's so hard to run a multinational alliance without betrayal...you know who you are, even if I don't yet.

EDIT: And now I do. Really...it's one thing to betray a person, but taking someone's orders and sending them to an enemy...especially after that person gave them their orders after a request, not a mistake...that's bordering on cheating.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

The largest naval engagements that have occured so far have been in Far Eastern war of FK, Dalnorossia and Siam verses Qing China in 1867 when roughly a thousand ships were sunk in the various operations. The FK again have experinced the largest total losses of 810 ships over the 3 years of the war, but some nations have had their entire navies annilated...

*Waves

EDIT: And now I do. Really...it's one thing to betray a person, but taking someone's orders and sending them to an enemy...especially after that person gave them their orders after a request, not a mistake...that's bordering on cheating.

I know the paranoid feeling. It used to be mine, now its yours.

 

[Thlayli]

I know the paranoid feeling. It used to be mine, now its yours.

Ahh, the seventh circle of hell is reserved for traitors!!!

EDIT: Personally I consider my betrayal of the Ottoman Empire a 'tactical readjustment,' but still.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Ahh, the seventh circle of hell is reserved for traitors!!!

Kinda funny you should mention that...

 

[alex994]

All's fair in love and war. Amen