NES2 V - The Great Game.

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Iggy. Betraying me is fair enough, that's fine. I'm sure that Storm promised you plenty of things.

But, you can't come to me OOC and say, "Send me your orders so that we can cooperate closer." Then when I send you the orders, you send them to the FK, and then make IC decisions based on OOC knowledge.

You lied in order to steal my plans, and that's cheating. I wouldn't have had a problem with it if you'd just attacked me, but this is really quite low.

I suppose this is the thanks I get for allowing Turkey and Croatia to live...stupid of me, I guess.
 
Thlayli said:
"The Twenty were French, contrary to popular opinion, and not Persian. Though, they were Persian trained. In addition, there were actually twenty-six of them, according to most sources. The coverup following the events in London was such that most of the actual details were blotted out."

-Khalid Hamdallah, A History of Espionage

That's abusing your right to free speech Shah. Or is it Ex-Shah? Ardashir! Looks like you were long overdue for retirement!

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What game is that screenshot from?
 
Hmm, well I suppose if Iggy defected to the Puppet Coalition, then Cleric would follow him.

Why do I even bother...

Still, I'm really upset about you doing something as bad as lying to me, stealing my plans, and then sending them to my enemies to beat me. There's absolutely no IC reason for the FK to have known that, any of that. And really Iggy...I thought that you had left the Ottoman days behind, along with the grudges. Guess that was just a lie too, huh?
 
Thlayli said:
Still, I'm really upset about you doing something as bad as lying to me, stealing my plans, and then sending them to my enemies to beat me. There's absolutely no IC reason for the FK to have known that, any of that. And really Iggy...I thought that you had left the Ottoman days behind, along with the grudges. Guess that was just a lie too, huh?

Its been *3 years* since you brought down his sultan and destroyed the turkic empire, do you really think they'll have moved on already?
 
So when people join as rebellions in my territory for OOC reasons or decide to fight to the death for OOC reasons even though it makes no sense IC you are ok with it, but when people ask you for your plans (which could be done OOC or IC, since the need to cooperate is as much an IC as an OOC reason) and then pass them to me you cry wolf. Long live hypocricy.
 
Hmpf I didnt even knew Iggy sold you out too.

You have served your purpose.
 
Half his country was clamoring for DEMOCRACY which I tried to force him to accept in the peace treaty, but he would not. It was a republican revolt, not a military one.
 
Stormbringer said:
So when people join as rebellions in my territory for OOC reasons or decide to fight to the death for OOC reasons even though it makes no sense IC you are ok with it, but when people ask you for your plans (which could be done OOC or IC, since the need to cooperate is as much an IC as an OOC reason) and then pass them to me you cry wolf. Long live hypocricy.

Storm, if you can only win by cheating, don't play at all. You have the immense economic and numerical advantage..

And you STILL resort to getting someone to lie to me, in order to steal my plans, so you can make an IC decision based on OOC knowledge, that you would have NEVER had realistically. It's totally ridiculous!

You're pulling a Sheep in ITNES, so to speak. Using OOC knowledge given to you by another player to get an unfair advantage on your enemy.
 
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Portugal signed peace with FK and the other nations at war with it, ceding all the Portuguese colonies to the Federates (-1 Federate Culture). This only makes the domestic situation worse, however (-1 Economy, Confidence). Liberal and Republican groups rose up in rebellion, as did the Galician separatists. The military eventually restored order in parts of hte country with bloody massacres, but the situation is only getting worse (-1 Confidence) as General Camilo Goncalves himself has entered negotiations with the liberals, and the people of Lisbon are once more on the verge of filling the streets in riot...

They were not rioting for him to sign peace. They were rioting against the peace.
 
@Das- I hope you return soon. Also, I assume that when you said 'Israelites' you meant 'Israelis.' People from the modern State of Israel are 'Israelis.' 'Israelite' refers to either people from the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judea (Judea would also be Judeans) as well as the Jewish people. I also assume that the Israelis you spoke to believed in a totally scientific creation. That is because Israel has caught the secular European bug. Many Israelis are complete Atheists. If you meant the reverse, that means you were probably talking to the fringe minority of super-religious Israelis. The impression you have from Russian Jews (I'm surprised there are enough left for you to have met more than one or two) is likely more accurate of the general opinion of world Jewry. Once again, due get better.
 
Cleric said:
Hmpf I didnt even knew Iggy sold you out too.

You have served your purpose.

Well I guess all the rats are fleeing the sinking ship :lol: this is why you should never get involved in the Balkans!

Thlayli said:
And you STILL resort to getting someone to lie to me, in order to steal my plans, so you can make an IC decision based on OOC knowledge, that you would have NEVER had realistically. It's totally ridiculous!

Your assuming the rats didn't go to him of their own volition...

And its quite in charater to be sneaky - you may already have a huge advantage but if an opportunity to send less of your men home in body bags presents itself, can you really say you would not take it?
 
Thlayli said:
Storm, if you can only win by cheating, don't play at all. You have the immense economic and numerical advantage..

And you STILL resort to getting someone to lie to me, in order to steal my plans, so you can make an IC decision based on OOC knowledge, that you would have NEVER had realistically. It's totally ridiculous!

You're pulling a Sheep in ITNES, so to speak. Using OOC knowledge given to you by another player to get an unfair advantage on your enemy.

He didnt resort to anything,I approached him....

Edit:Panda dont bring the bastard into this dicussion.He's best left for OT.
 
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