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[Terrance888]

I want to read about what's wrong about Chompus.

 

[Thlayli]

Size is irrelevant to the argument of cilia Vs. Flagella; think of human sperm for example. A larger organism would find either incapable of providing momentum due to the viscosity of water. You would need other methods of propulsion. Having both methods is simply an expensive redundancy which should be a degenerative evolution.

Technically speaking, the cilia I have are an aid to engulfment, a specialized evolution. You want to talk about redundancy, you tried to profit off of the predation mechanisms of two successful species, managing to halfass them both.

But you do know a lot about degeneracy, so let's say you win the argument, vote-rigger.

 

[Terrance888]

Archaeoblobus->Riggedavoteium
Additions: The cell has little sensors around itself. When another cell touches these sensors, their organelles go completely haywire as faulty RNA is sent into the cell. Mitocondrias shut down, the Golgi stop proccesing protiens, the Cell Membrane numbs up, etc. Eventually, the Lysosome is ordered to burst, which kills off the cell.

With this, would-be predadors back off, as they will die if they eat the cell. Also, this will remove peer hunters, as a cell that accidentilly touches it will hit the fan.

sorry Thlayli, that evolution has already been taken.

 

[Thlayli]

What?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

What?

 

[North King]

Can we not act like idiots here?

Anyway, Daft, been super-busy this last two weeks, I'll probably start evolving again for next time though.

 

[Boundless]

Technically speaking, the cilia I have are an aid to engulfment, a specialized evolution. You want to talk about redundancy, you tried to profit off of the predation mechanisms of two successful species, managing to halfass them both.

But you do know a lot about degeneracy, so let's say you win the argument, vote-rigger.

Glad to see you can accept when you are wrong and that you don't resort to attacking the person rather than the argument!


Edit: forgot boundless was signed in on her iPhone- assume the above was from Abaddon

 

[Kraznaya]

Glad to see you can accept when you are wrong and that you don't resort to attacking the person rather than the argument!


Edit: forgot boundless was signed in on her iPhone- assume the above was from Abaddon

 

[Abaddon]

Yeah, little boo-boo there. I'd ask a mod to clear it up, but i'm sure we can all survive with out creating more work for Beej. Excited the update will hopefully come up today Then again Dafty might go out and enjoy the sun.. it is a beautiful day today!

 

[Omega124]

Wait, you didn't know Boundless wasn't signed in on her Iphone? Next, I'll be suprised that I'm signed on my dad's E-Mail on his computer.

 

[Abaddon]

Yes, we both use the internet on her iPhone, since my phone is a crappy old thing, an I didn't realise she had signed in as herself until I posted..

 

[North King]

*coughs*

SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE UPDATE DAFT.

 

[Thlayli]

Yeah, little boo-boo there. I'd ask a mod to clear it up, but i'm sure we can all survive with out creating more work for Beej. Excited the update will hopefully come up today Then again Dafty might go out and enjoy the sun.. it is a beautiful day today!

At least you are now personally aware of the vast amount of contempt in which the majority of this community holds you. And I'll take an infraction for that. This post may be deleted, but for me and many others, you have lost our respect. Permanently.

Let's ignore how you argue for increased specialization and try and make your creature a wobbly generalist with fewer spikes than a successful Spiculus and fewer cilia than a successful Archaeofilium.

Let's also ignore that my organism *is* the largest, and it is not using one flagellum but several, rendering your diagram useless.

There, a nice mixture of ad hominem and legitimate argument. Everybody wins!

 

[Abaddon]

Unless you have edited something away, the post you have quoted me on doesn't really have any link to the text you then write below..I doubt the community holds me in contempt for accidentally not realising my gf was signed in, not me..

Anyway, this has all got a bit silly.

I was merely saying that biologically, it isn't true to claim phlagella will move your creature faster than cillia. THAT'S IT. That you are using the cillia for a different purpose (eating?) is a seperate issue (I agree with their usage there!).

 

[Terrance888]

Wait... people hold Abaddon in comtempt?

Lets move this conversation to the While We Wait thread While We Wait for Daft's undoubtable awesome update which forces us to Wait While We pray for the awesomeness to come sonner without much Wait.

 

[Thlayli]

One flagellum, multiple flagella. That might explain your disconnect.

Forget it. It's just so much easier to put you on ignore than have to deal with you anymore.

 

[Abaddon]

cilia and flagella are structurally identical, except their size. At the scale we are, you would get faster movement by coating the outside of the organism with what we would call "cilia" rather than have a few, larger "flagella" at the back.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21698/

But don't worry about it. Don't let someone who actually knows something about the subject get in the way of what you know to be true!

 

[BananaLee]

This sort of argument wouldn't have happened if we had done Nesse.

 

[Daftpanzer]

Hey guys, just an update on the missing update... I've had a reality check with my university work, especially that one deadline is earlier than I thought. Im a little frightened. At least for the next few days, I litterally can't spare the 1-2 hours of computer time to make proper update text. I'm not even playing computer games!

Hope to get ontop of things again soon. In any case, my last deadlines are on the 17th of May, so 'normal' service resumes after that, if not before.

Anyway I trust you can really see what is happening from the image I posted. I took some liberties and made things cooperative/colonial organisms, maybe went to far with that.

(sorry)

 

[erez87]

Hey guys, just an update on the missing update... I've had a reality check with my university work, especially that one deadline is earlier than I thought. Im a little frightened. At least for the next few days, I litterally can't spare the 1-2 hours of computer time to make proper update text. I'm not even playing computer games!

Hope to get ontop of things again soon. In any case, my last deadlines are on the 17th of May, so 'normal' service resumes after that, if not before.

Anyway I trust you can really see what is happening from the image I posted. I took some liberties and made things cooperative/colonial organisms, maybe went to far with that.

(sorry)

Why are you being so sorry? You are awesome!