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New Beta Version - November 9th (11-9)

Discussion in 'Community Patch Project' started by Gazebo, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. Galbias

    Galbias Chieftain

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    I always assumed this was intended. Same thing happens with the free Infantry from War Games.
     
  2. Enrico Swagolo

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    How do I implement the mentioned but impossible for me to find fix? Or alternatively, where is the file changes have to be implemented in and what are those changes?
     
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  3. Vastator

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    The city strenght one?

    Sid Meier's Civilization 5\MODS\(2) Community Balance Overhaul\Balance Changes

    open CoreDefines.sql with notepad(++)

    change CITY_RANGED_ATTACK_STRENGTH_MULTIPLIER value from 50 to -50
     
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  4. Enrico Swagolo

    Enrico Swagolo Warlord

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    My appreciations, this is what I wanted
     
  5. Questdog

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    Cannons seem to be kicking a lot more butt than before....3 shots on a city with 44 strength and it is at 0. Is this intended or am I just muddled in the head and that is the way it has always been?
     
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  6. Questdog

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    P.S. I did not use Catapults or Trebuchets on any cities in this game.

    P.S.P.S. I did not intend to make two posts....
     
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  7. CrazyG

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    If there isn't a code issue, I think it should get some promotions. I end up deleting or using it as a city state gift really often.
     
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  8. nekokon

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    Unintended, since they now ignore bonus from wall, but still keep their 100% dmg to city promotion. G and ilteroi just forgot to double check with each other.
    Usually it can be hot fixed quickly, but G is away now so I don't know. I'm currently exploi.. I mean making use of cannons to burst through fortified front too, since the new flanking mechanic makes it so much harder to kill things.
     
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  9. Omen of Peace

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    From what I gather, ilteroi made some changes, and expected G to make some changes to cannon promotions to account for them - but that didn't happen.

    So yeah, overpowered cannons. Can you report to Github?
     
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  10. Questdog

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    Also, is it intended that my Cannons cost the exact same amount to upgrade to Field Guns as it costs to buy a Field Gun?
     
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  11. Kim Dong Un

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    I one hit Gandhi's Tradition capital with a cannon (had siege II). I noticed another problem as well while attacking a 45 defense city with 1 crossbow man. As soon as I upgraded to musket, my ranged dmg on the city grew excessively, and I was able to take it (and kill the garrison) in 2 turns.

    I will add that my suspiciously overpowered muskets were upgraded Atlatlists, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Others should definitely notice if something is up with ranged damage on city attack.
     
  12. YukiN

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    Yes. You upgrade for promotions once you hit Renaissance, or if you have cost modifiers such as the Pentagon.
     
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  13. Minh Le

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    City range combat strength is greatly increased as well. City State oneshoted my Heavy Skirmisher. Is this intended?
    Also, The Huns still have really low chance of capturing, I thought it changed to be 100%? If its my mistake so never mind.
    Spoiler Capture :
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  14. YukiN

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    This has been mentioned earlier in this thread with a temporary fix you can implement. It is a bug and not intended.
     
  15. saamohod

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    Do you mean the upgrade costs less when you enter next era?
     
  16. Grabbl

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    No, he means that in the later game, you're supposed to upgrade only (high-level) units with promotions you want to keep, and rebuild the rest.
     
  17. Vastator

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    Are the overpowered cannon so after the promotions? So, could lowering the values of dmg vs cities of these promotions work like a sort of temporary fix?
     
  18. Padre19

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    UPDATE Units SET IgnoreBuildingDefense = '0'.
     
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  19. Rafs

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    I think your captcure chance is based on the strenght of your unit vs the strenght of the enemy units (so trying to take spearmans with horses is harder as they are stronger against you), tried taking some cataphracts from byzanthium with my knights but the chance wasn't all that high, but capturing ranged units of any kind is pretty easy.
     
  20. Txurce

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    Something else that's happening — probably linked to the walls/cannon issue — is that ships are wiping out cities with high defense numbers much faster than before. Has anyone else noticed this? Example: A green, 73-strength defended enemy city. 3 slighlt injured Bombardment 3 cruisers hit it once, followed by a vanguard ironclad, all backed by an admiral. They came within a hair of taking it the first turn... and I didn't have the city surrounded. If it had been, or one more shot by any sort of ship, and it would have fallen in one turn.
     

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