New Expansion Speculation Thread

[Kimiimaro]

Aethelflaed is already a Great General in Civ VI which maybe makes her less likely.

Genghis Khan was also a Great General before R&F.

 

[UWHabs]

Genghis Khan was also a Great General before R&F.

Yeah, in some ways it might make her more likely, since the devs are obviously already more aware of her than I would guess your average person is (personally I had never heard of her until Civ).

 

[shaglio]

Glad something is clearly happening behind the scenes. Disappointed that our upcoming theorizing will be limited by the specific dev build.

My thoughts exactly. A separate marketing build would be good for Firaxis, but bad for Civfanatics where we revel in dissecting every little detail in every screenshot or piece of clothing we see.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

This isn't an argument for or against, but I just want to say that this statue of Aethelflead in her capital, Tamworth kicks butt:

 

[Chirthorpe]

I already replied to that specific topic in a different thread, so i'll just C+P this
Aquitaine as a separate Civ won't happen. [...] The issue of "Should Eleanor lead France or England" is kind of an icky conundrum anyway. She makes sense as an English leader, but it would be a CdM situation; the only ethnic French leader in the game leads England. That's insane.
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This is Firaxis we're talking about. They love to do silly things like that, so I really wouldn't put it passed them to do it.

 

[Rup]

My thoughts exactly. A separate marketing build would be good for Firaxis, but bad for Civfanatics where we revel in dissecting every little detail in every screenshot or piece of clothing we see.

I am very sure they don't want us to have bad times.We are the biggest Civilization community.They might do some silly stuffs on purpose.
Imagine Ed again opening the civilopedia and we again able to see some of the upcoming leaders for some reason
That would be a real surprise!

 

[Trav'ling Canuck]

Less overlap than in case of Rome and Italy.

Rome overlaps with most everybody.

That would be one way to address the Med-centricism of Civ … if your civ's capital falls into Rome's historical territory, you're out. 'Cuz we have to have Rome, and we don't want civs whose historical territory ever overlapped.

re Eleanor of Aquitaine … if you've never watched The Lion in Winter, do yourself a favour and watch it. EDIT: The 1968 version, I mean. I've just been alerted that there's also a 2003 version. That's not the one you want.

 

[AssemblingTyphoon]

I already replied to that specific topic in a different thread, so i'll just C+P this
Aquitaine as a separate Civ won't happen. [...] The issue of "Should Eleanor lead France or England" is kind of an icky conundrum anyway. She makes sense as an English leader, but it would be a CdM situation; the only ethnic French leader in the game leads England. That's insane.

What if Eleanor leads either France or England? It's entirely possible. They'd just have to separate Civ selection from Leader selection somehow.
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[Zdarg]

re Eleanor of Aquitaine … if you've never watched The Lion in Winter, do yourself a favour and watch it. EDIT: The 1968 version, I mean.

I've seen second half of it. Good movie and maybe even historically correct... but so what? It doesn't argue against the fact that Eleanor never ruled neither England nor France.

If being king's wife and king's mother means being a ruler, I solidly insist on Anna Yaroslavna as French leader.

 

[SirWill90]

I’m a fan of both Eleanor and Aethelflaed, but if one is really being added as a leader of France or England, I just have to say... huh? I mean, sure, as I’ve said before, Eleanor may have a bit more of a claim to leadership of France, at least, than should Catherine, but why ignore some of the greatest and/or most consequential leaders in history, and the possibilites for their special abilities, to add one of them in a role she never played? Seriously, skip over Alfred, Edward I, Henry II, Louis XIV, Napoleon, Elizabeth I, George II, and many more, to have Aethelflaed rule England or Eleanor rule France (or England, heh?) Just seems quite silly when the series has always used factual countries and leaders to depart from that. Seems more like a mod thing than an official DLC or expansion.

Of course maybe it’s all fake news.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I'm fairly certain that the oil platform in the leaked photo is the same asset as the standard offshore oil rig that we already have in game as can be seen here: http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_terrain

Excellent. I hope you're right.

Good first post.

 

[Proclo]

Potential Environmental or aquatic theme

An environmental mechanic would be great! Pollution and diseases are a long time desired mechanics for me.

 

[Lord Lakely]

I would absolutely prefer an environmental mechanic over a World Congress at this point, because Civ6 diplomacy just utterly sucks and I don't want any more resources invested into it until it's been fully fixed.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I would absolutely prefer an environmental mechanic over a World Congress at this point, because Civ6 diplomacy just utterly sucks and I don't want any more resources invested into it until it's been fully fixed.

I'm against it for this very reason.

Solidifying existing structures>piling on more and more mechanics

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

As I've said before, I would rather a different leader for England or France, but out of the two I would take Aethelflaed over Eleanor. I doubt Aquitaine or Mercia comes as a separate civ.
That being said I trust the other images to be more real and it looks like we are going to get the Maori or some other Polynesian culture. If it is the Maori I don't see them being as naval focused as Polynesia was and therefore wouldn't be hard to differentiate them from Norway or Indonesia.
As for the leader it probably would be Hongi Hika and the UU would be the Maori Warrior. For Unique Infrastructure it would make since if they get a Pa, but instead of another unique encampment what if it were a unique improvement built by builders with fortification and housing bonuses.
In the other thread I commented that the water district looks like a new science district that could be built on the water and it could be a marine research institute. They could use the Seowon approach and it would get less science from other districts but more science next to other improved sea resources.
I also hope the wind turbines could be built on land as well making it versatile.

 

[Haig]

I am all for world congress feature, I feel the Rise and Fall mechanics could be/will be integrated to it.

Free cities, emergencies.. those things.

I feel its usually the #1 requested thing in expansion wishlists on here and reddit so Firaxis would be nuts not to include it.

R&F had many new features so world congress and disaster mechqnics could both be included.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

For those that didn't see Bob's post, here is a picture of the "Factory" in the leaked image compared to a SS of an oil derek off off Arioch's excellent website.

1 by sammykhalifa, on Flickr

Of course details are blurry on the "leak" image, but they are exactly the same thing just seen from the other side.

 

[WillowBrook]

My current speculation, for the record:

February 14 release date seems genuine, although it could be adjusted before the expansion is officially announced.

Vesuvius is internal code name; the expansion will be released with a different name. But the addition of volcanoes as a terrain feature and/or Vesuvius as a natural wonder are possible.

There will be a Polynesian civ, possibly a specific group of Polynesians.

The blue done some structure is a new wonder (someone linked above), the wind turbines provide production, and the oil rig is a deep ocean variety that comes later than the current oil rig (which will be limited to lakes and coast).

The blond queen is a hoax.

We will get 8 new civs and one alternate leader for a base game Civ, a few new buildings as alternates for existing buildings, a handful of new natural and world wonders, and a few new (all-civ) units.

There will be much weeping and nashing of teeth when either the Ottomans or the Inca are not included.

The AI will not be much improved.

We will get some sort of world congress and a new diplomatic victory condition. Diplomacy will be slightly improved.

England will be adjusted again in light of new mechanics. Whether it's a buff or nerf will be endlessly debated.

 

[darkace77450]

This isn't an argument for or against, but I just want to say that this statue of Aethelflead in her capital, Tamworth kicks butt:

It's not kicking anything without legs.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

It's not kicking anything without legs.

Aethelflead doesn't need legs to kick butt, darkace.