New Expansion Speculation Thread

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R&F had just the Netherlands and Scotland (and arguably Georgia, but even if it's in Europe (which it isn't, I believe; iirc it's Asia) it would certainly not count as Euro-centric.
Geographical border between Europe and Asia is rather random and arbitrary.
As Christian civilization, Georgia belongs more to Europe, even if it's location is east from some imaginary line.
 
May I be so annoying and point to my old Civ5 Expansion concept again (it was so much work ...)?
This was my take on random events years ago.

Some ideas would have to be changed, of course - for example the correlation to SoPos, which could be replaced by policy cards now.
The general idea still stands: random events do happen sometimes completely randomly but mostly due to player decisions in the past - but the negative outcome (positive events do happen, too) can also be evaded or even changed into a positive outcome by thougthfull planning or an appropriate response. (The "appropriate response" thing could work very similar to R&F's "emergencies". The parallels are quite strong, hence my guess that this is exactly what will happen, by the way ...)

I would like such "nudges" that test your empire's resistibility.
 
Geographical border between Europe and Asia is rather random and arbitrary.
As Christian civilization, Georgia belongs more to Europe, even if it's location is east from some imaginary line.

I believe the border is considered to be Russia's border in the Caucasus, with Russia being Europe and everything south being Asia.

But yeah, it's kind of undefined. Either way, though, I wouldn't call it part of eurocentricism, as that mostly focuses more on western (and central) Europe.
 
Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

And what focus would have each civ/leader?
Without a deep investigation and little knowlege... I can say that I see too many militaristic civs/leaders:

Colombia/Simon Bolivar (maybe with a Enlightenment touch)
Maori
Hungary/Arpad
Inca/Atahualpa

I repeat, not a great expert here, so don't rant at me
 
Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

This reddit account apparently was made today, the list given as a buried reply in an inconspicuous "iwannaitnowpls" type of reddit post. Can be trolling, but can be a mild attempt to hide true identity. If this is real and there is a real translator behind it, well... I hope the fine for a NDA breach, if any, won't exceed what was to be received as pay for the job.

This list seems half believable (first half), half crazy (second one), but still kind of believable, given what we have already, and one leader can choose from two countries - what a novelty! Anyway, we'll see soon(TM) enough.

Still, to rob the lead designer of the whole "Let's open the Civilopedia" show on a live stream... the cheek! :)
 
I believe the border is considered to be Russia's border in the Caucasus, with Russia being Europe and everything south being Asia.
Possibly now. Or not. :)
In 1990, southern border of Soviet Union was the border, not Russian.
I am quite sure that when Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan went independent, their intention wasn't becoming Asia instead of Europe.
 
Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

Call me a bit skeptical but the game itself is not available in Hungarian. So I don't know why a Hungarian translator - who would presumably only be helping create the dialogue for the one Hungarian leader - would know who the rest of the leaders are. I suspect it might be more 'wishful thinking'. Interesting list though.
 
True but its also the geographical spread. At least its not half a dozen more Europeans for an already crowded Europe but South America and SE Asia are getting a lot of representation, North America and Africa none extra.
Yeah, I don't know that I buy it either but like I said up above it's an interesting (and not immediately dismissable) list of names.
 
If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

Well there are plenty of good reasons to believe this is fake but I will say this list looks right in line with Firaxis leader choice behavior in Civ6. It feels right but let the speculation begin.

Tawhiao doesn’t look like the leaked image of a “Polynesian”
 
I find it questionable that an Expansion called Vesuvius would not contain any kind of alternative Italian based leader or new civ from that region.

It's highly likely that "Vesuvius" is just the work-in-progress code name. I think it indicates much more strongly that Mount Vesuvius will be a Natural Wonder than that Italy will be a Civilization. Vesuvius' most famous eruption occured during the Roman Empire and Rome is already in the game.
 
Call me a bit skeptical but the game itself is not available in Hungarian. So I don't know why a Hungarian translator - who would presumably only be helping create the dialogue for the one Hungarian leader - would know who the rest of the leaders are. I suspect it might be more 'wishful thinking'. Interesting list though.

Maybe as part of the release w/ the Hungarian leader they are translating the whole game into Hungarian. Which would take a lot of translators and thus create more exposure to leaks. Remember it was a Chinese translator that leaked some good info for Rise and Fall.
 
I would find it weird to have Maori, Australian Aboriginals, Australia, Indonesia, Burma, Kmer and India with 2 leaders, when we have so few African Civs and we are still missing so many European and Middle-East Civs that we have had in previous games (Portugal, Sweden, Byzantium, Babylonia, Assyria, Hittites, Austria, Celts, Carthage, Ethiopia etc.) Not horrible choices though except Australian Aboriginals. Roxelana as leader doesnt sound great either, but we have Catherine already so I guess they like to choose questionable female leaders. Not huge issue for me personally though. What is most important is to have interesting Civs.

What would be interesting is that if you could play England OR France as Eleanor. That would be really interesting.
 
I have mixed feelings about this.

On the one hand, I'm generally okay with some of these choices, but on the other-- what an a****** for spoiling it. He better just be messing around.

I wanted to be disappointed in real time, not all at once.
 
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