New NES

Which NES would you most like to play?

  • The timeline where the Turks are cut out.

    Votes: 23 62.2%
  • The WWII NES with players as generals

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • Axis and Allies NES

    Votes: 7 18.9%

  • Total voters
    37
Hypothetically, if I were to join, what countries would y'all recommend to me? I'm engaging in cost-benefit analysis right now. :p
 
Gah! My urge to take control of light-brown coloured Turkic nations who will almost certainly be rife with rebellion is taking me again!

Timurids please.
 
Expect this to start on Wednesday. Depending on how fast I can write one of my papers, maybe even tommarow. ;)


Looks like I have all the big players down except the Japanese now. Awesome.

Sp. I was going to reccomend Spain, and if you really don't want that a South American nation, Morocco, or the Marathas.
 
Luckymoose-German Union
Justo-Northern Italian Republic
Darkening-Jerusalem
The Loser-Austria
Dachspmg-Sweden
Azale-France
The Farow-Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth
Abaddon-Oman
Propagandist-Union of American States
Shadowbound-American Confederation
Flyingchicken-Byzantines
Sp1023-Spain
Germanicus-Great Britain
Lord_Iggy-The Timurids
qoou-The Netherlands
Supermath-Brazil
Flavius Aetius-Venice
honzas_cz-Denmark-Norway
Lightfang-Japan
D'Artagnan59-Republic of California

If I missed anyone please tell me.


Lightfang now that we have a Timurids player, I really want a Novgorod, even though its a difficult position. Of course China, Japan, or a couple of South American nations would be nice.
 
@Lightfang, you usually like to play small, out of the way, peaceful nations (aka, pansy countries). So...the nations that best fit that bill are:

Korea
Switzerland
Novgorod
Lithuania
Papal States

If you want some small-moderate power that has potential for fun, I would look at:

Portugal
Any of the South American nations
Louisiana
Denmark-Norway
Marathas

And if your finally ready to break out of your mold and do something WILD, there is:

Japan
China
Arab Caliphate
American Federation
Mexico
 
@Lightfang, you usually like to play small, out of the way, peaceful nations (aka, pansy countries). So...the nations that best fit that bill are:
[...]
Novgorod
Novgorod is too irredentist to be peaceful. :p
 
If Supermath doesn't take Venice, I will take it.
 
You can have Venice. I think I'll take Brazil.
 
Couple more stats posted. Keep looking at them, I'm putting them up as I make them.
 
Where are these stats? perhaps add to the op so easy to find?
 
Thats Oman.

Spoiler :
Byzantine Empire
Capital: Constantinople
Leader: Emperor Isaac Tiberios IV Doukas
Constitutional Imperial Monarchy: Liberal Senate
Dissent: 22%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 32
Military Spending: 15
Public Spending: 6
Private Enterprise: 11
Army: 30 Divisions, 15 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 6
Navy: 12 Battleships, 25 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 8
Background: After Manzikert, the Byzantines entered into a new age of prosperity that continues to this day. Despite minor losses in the Crusades and the occainsonal revolt in the Balkans, the Empire is doing very well. In the early 1800s, the Imperial Army invaded Egypt to oust Napoleon and has since occupied and used the country as a base to explore and colonize the Indian Ocean. It's major conflicts today lay with the Kingdom of Jerusalem which an increasingly large faction within the Imperial Senate wish to see absorbed back into the Empire, The Timurid Empire with whom it compete for influence in Ukraine and the Caucauses, and the Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth with whom it competes for influence with in the Balkans. It has lately been looking to Germany and and Japan as good strong allies to help them enclose their enemies.

Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth (Jagiellon Empire)
Capital: Budapest/Warsaw
Leader: Louis Stephen I Jagiellon
Constitutional Monarchy: Moderate Party
Dissent: 10%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 26
Military Spending: 16
Public Spending: 5
Private Enterprise: 5
Army: 22 Divisions, 18 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 7
Navy: 3 Battleships, 10 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 4
Background: As Hungary and Poland rose in prominance, The Lithuanian Jagiellon family, which had branches in both these countries began to work to towards uniting the two countries. This was achieved at the Union of Lublin in 1465 with a well placed royal marriage. The result was the creation of a military and political colossus in Central Europe. Since it's union, the Commonwealth has had strong interests in Germany, Austria and the Balkans and has been accused of trying to absorb some of these into it's empire, wheather through another set of marriages, or military conquest.

Kingdom of Lithuania
Capital: Vilinus
Leader: Manvydas II Jagiellon
Absolute Monarchy: Conservative
Dissent: 2%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 6
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 2
Private Enterprise: 1
Army: 6 Divisions, 2 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 5
Navy: 3 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 6
Background: When Poland and Hungary united, the original Lithuanian branch of the Jagiellons was left politically isolated an unimportant. It is small and relativley weak but is fiercly protected by the Polish-Hungarians who see it somewhat like one would see their decrepit old grandmother.

German Union
Capital: Berlin
Leader: King Frederick III Hohenzollern
Constitional Monarchy: Conservative Party
Dissent: 9%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 24
Military Spending: 14
Public Spending: 3
Private Enterprise: 7
Army: 28 Divisions, 12 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 8
Navy: 6 Battleships, 14 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 6
Background: As The Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth, France and Sweden grew in power, the Germans began to see that they must either unite or risk being absorbed. In 1815, with Prussian leadership, the German Union was born as a loose confederation amongst almost all the various German kingdoms and duchies. Though technically each part of the German Union gets an equal say, lately Prussia has been asserting itself more as a first amongst equals.

Archduchy of Austria
Capital: Vienna
Leader: Archduke Franz Josef I Habsburg
Constitional Monarchy: Liberal Party
Dissent: 5%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 9
Military Spending: 4
Public Spending: 2
Private Enterprise: 3
Army: 10 Divisions, 4 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 7
Navy: 2 Battleship, 8 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 5
Background: The Archduchy of Austria, seat of many past Holy Roman Emperors, was at a time seen as the most likely state to suceed in uniting Germany, however the growth of Prussia left the Austrians isolated. Both Germany and the Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth have interests in Austria and seek to absorb it into their Empire, while the Austrians themselves compete with the Venetians for power in the Adriatic.

Venetian Republic
Capital: Venice
Leader: Doge Marcello Mocenigo
Oligarchic Republic: Conservative Party
Dissent: 18%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 8
Military Spending: 4
Public Spending: 1
Private Enterprise: 3
Army: 6 Divisions, 2 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 5
Navy: 5 Battleships, 16 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 8
Background: Though not as rich as it once was, The Venetian Republic still manages to maintain one of the world's best trade fleets and navys. It might possibly have the strength to unite Italy under one flag, but many in the goverment are against this and see it as too expensive. Though Venice competes with the other Italians, Austrians and Byzantines, it's greatest threat might lie with it's own people, who have heard the liberal ideas of the Northern Italian Republic and are becoming dissatisfied with the financial gap between the wealthy and the poor.

Northern Italian Republic
Capital: Florence
Leader: Prime Minister Bettino Ricasoli
Parlimentary Republic: Liberal Party
Dissent: 6%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 9
Military Spending: 4
Public Spending: 2
Private Enterprise: 3
Army: 7 Divisions, 4 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 6
Navy: 1 Battleship, 9 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 5
Background: Threats from the outside world and liberal ideas from the French Revolution united most of the various Italian republics and duchies by the 1850s. Today it is a beacon of Liberalism and equality in Europe and seeks to unite all of Italy.

The Papal States
Capital: Rome
Leader: Pope Pius IX
Theocracy: Conservative
Dissent: 1%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 6
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 2
Private Enterprise: 1
Army: 5 Divisions
Army Quality: 8
Navy: None
Navy 0
Background: The decline of religion in everyday life has lead to a weakening of the Papacy in general. Though it is still supported by strong catholic nations such as the Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth, The Kingdom of Jerusalem and The Republic of Venice, it finds itself at conflict with the secular Northern Italian Republic who seek to unite all of Italy.

The Kingdom of Two Sicilies
Capital: Naples
Leader: King Francis II Bourbon
Theocracy: Conservative Party
Dissent: 36%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 5
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 0
Private Enterprise: 2
Army: 6 Divisions, 4 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 5
Navy: 7 squadrons
Navy Quality: 4
Background: Spanish support is the only thing keeping this most backward of the Italian nations alive. Poverty and general disgust with the goverment are wide spread and if changes are not made soon, it will likely collapse from within and succumb to revolution.

Switzerland
Capital: Bern
Leader: President Friedrich Frey-Herosé
Republic: Liberal Party
Dissent: 1%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 4
Military Spending: 1
Public Spending: 2
Private Enterprise: 1
Army: 5 Divisions, 1 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 9
Navy: None
Navy Quality: 0
Background: Neutral as ever.....

French Empire
Capital: Paris
Leader: Louis Napoleon III Bonaparte
Authoritarian Monarchy: Conservative
Dissent: 12%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 28
Military Spending: 16
Public Spending: 4
Private Enterprise: 8
Army: 35 Divisions, 18 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 7
Navy: 8 Battleships, 20 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 6
Background: Though France lost the Napoleonic Wars, it still managed to get away with a large empire and maintain it's status as Super Power. The country had brief period where it went back to being Republic, but this was interupted by Louis Napoleon, nephew of the first Napoleon, who declared himself the new Emperor. France today competes heavily with Germany in Europe and Great Britain on the world stage. It also seeks to keep the Italians fractured and Byzantines out of the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

The United Provinces
Capital: Amsterdam
Leader: William III Oranje-Nassau
Constitutional Monarchy: Liberal Party
Dissent: 20%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 10
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 3
Private Enterprise: 4
Army: 8 Divisions, 4 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 6
Navy: 3 Battleships, 12 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 7
Background: The Netherlands has enjoyed great prosperity since the Napoleonic Wars. Its colonies are all extremely wealthy and it's navy, though small is highly respected. The country's only major problem could be from Belgian rebels in the south. The country is highly supported by Great Britain against the French or Germans.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
Capital: London
Leader: Queen Victoria Hanover
Constitutional Monarchy: Liberal Party
Dissent: 20%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 36
Military Spending: 18
Public Spending: 7
Private Enterprise: 11
Army: 25 Divisions, 12 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 6
Navy: 15 Battleships, 30 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 8
Background: Great Britiain's large industrial base and colonial empire make it world power to beat. The loss of some of it's American colonies might have set it back, but did not deter the nation from expanding elsewhere. While it is currently is in the process of colonizing India, it also is meeting stiff opposition from the Marathas. Besides India, The Empire also has growing interests in South Africa, Indochina, and the Pacific. Its main rivals for supremacy are France, and it's former ally in the Napoleonic Wars, the Byzantine Empire.

The Kingdom of Spain
Capital: Madrid
Leader: Queen Isabella II Bourbon
Constitutional Monarchy: Liberal Party
Dissent: 24%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 18
Military Spending: 10
Public Spending: 3
Private Enterprise: 5
Army: 11 Divisions, 9 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 6
Navy: 6 Battleships, 12 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 6
Background: The loss of most of Spain's American colonies, corruption in the goverment and the decline of her navy have hit Spain hard. Still with all of Africa open for colonization and the increasing rivalries between her more powerful neighbors, a resurgence in power is not impossible at all. Still however, Spain must worry about revolution in her colonies and keeping her Bourbon cousins in Naples and Lousiana in power.

The Timurid Empire
Capital: Samarquand
Leader: Bahadur Shah II Timurid
Authoritarian Monarchy: Conservative
Dissent: 34%
Global Opinion: Neutral
Base IC: 25
Military Spending: 18
Public Spending: 4
Private Enterprise: 3
Army: 15 Divisions, 25 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 7
Navy: 4 Battleships, 8 Squadrons
Navy Quality: 3
Background: Though still a world power, the name of the Timurids no longer strikes fear into the hearts of men the way it once did. The Empire's Russian possesions are in serious danger of major rebellion due to the irrendentist policies of Novgorod and Byzantium, and Japan and China are only too happy to chip away at the Siberian provinces. Other major problems within the empire include the military's unwilling to move away from cavalry based warefare, and general incompetance in the matter of navies.

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Looks like the Mexicans are missing a capital on the map. Guess that means they should be called the Mexican'ts.
 
mysterious voice *all will be explained via alt hist past* OOOooOOooo...


















;)
 
As a matter of curiosity...how does Spain maintain such a large base IC?
 
Taxing the hell out of colonies. I figured in they have a little more then they did OOTL around now. (Dominic Republic and Florida)

Slightly updated map.

Spoiler :
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Considering between China and Japan.

I'll take Japan then. Hopefully.
 
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