New Version - 3.7.12 (August 4, 2023)

[CppMaster]

Personally, this should be good reason to start a war, but if you do you are the agressor.

So another good reason to implement casus belly from Civ6.

I personally think spies should have lot more levels

Cool idea! Why not

 

[James Ryle]

I find the whole thing annoying. If you are doing well or hated, everyone comes after you, either stealing or worse casuing damage to youe cities, & there is nothing you can do about it. Obtain all the spy buildings, put spies in your cities. None of it works. Even if you catch one, they are back in goes as just get another spy. This is even so playing England. Personally, this should be good reason to start a war, but if you do you are the agressor. I just constantly war them & teach them a lesson.

The CS shenanigans is still overpowered despite needing two goes now, & soon control them.

I expect alot of people like playing on higher levels where they are behind, & if you do that, the AI is unlikley to go after you, so don't notice the problems as much. Why should you be disadavantaged because you are doing well. No, it is far better in an enjoyable sense to just drop espionage completely. Shame really. I personally think spies should have lot more levels of experince, & only be able to do the most powerful decisions when they have them most experience. So if you lose a spy, a new one would take ages to get the expereince to cause lots of damage. England is handicapped by the lack of levels.

Very interesting take. If I play on immortal where my Civ in the top 3 a lot of the game, spies don’t bother me too much. If I play Emperor where I’m the leader for sometimes a lot of the game, spies don’t bother me too much either…

I hardly ever use counter spies on either difficulty.

I really like your idea about more levels for spies. It would be enjoyable levelling the spy for those more rewarding and precarious missions. The jeopardy of losing it IMO would add much needed fun and tension to the system.

Again, I don’t find the system now to be an issue. BUT I don’t feel I’ve been really dogpiled yet so maybe if I rage quit over it sometime it might make me change my mind!

Better counter spying & more levels for spies is an exciting direction.

 

[tsmith7163]

Do what I do & just turn espionage off. Makes the game so much nicer. Spying hasn't worked for a long time properly.

Yeah- but I was pretty much enjoying it the whole game until the very end- and even then it did present me with some unique challenges which varied my game play somewhat - which is usually what I'm looking for with my games- i just think the spy resistance calculation is not working- so the protection from the buildings was not there( at least that is what it looked like to me from the spy resistance screens) - I mean your spy resistance does reset to max after an event but then goes quickly down with big cities/ and trade routes/ and unhappiness even with a counter spy so the foreign spies can steal quicker-- but even then I was still killing a few spies which is very, very enjoyable.......

 

[gwennog]

Do you, like me, have a problem with the Icon promotions of diplomatic units?
Icons are no longer the correct ones on version 3.7.8.

 

[youngsteve]

Has anyone else noticed problems with the Pantheon 'God of the Expanse' I tried it in latest version with 1 city India & also multiple city Venice, & it wasn't working. No idea why.

 

[Tekamthi]

If you are doing well or hated, everyone comes after you, either stealing or worse casuing damage to youe cities, & there is nothing you can do about it. Obtain all the spy buildings, put spies in your cities. None of it works. Even if you catch one, they are back in goes as just get another spy.

I think we should let envoys help catch spies... if you're being dogpiled with spies, park stack of envoys in defensive capacity in vulnerable city to up the counter-espionage values. Pretty sure one of the past civ titles did things this way, can't recall which.

 

[batian]

cant download

 

[N.Core]

Do you, like me, have a problem with the Icon promotions of diplomatic units?
Icons are no longer the correct ones on version 3.7.8.
View attachment 668116

My merge might be caused some problems with the load order, I have to check that.

 

[gwennog]

My merge might be caused some problems with the load order, I have to check that.

Do you want an issue in Github?

 

[N.Core]

Do you want an issue in Github?

Already made a PR to fix this.

 

[SuperNoobCamper]

I can easily heavy tribute CS every single turn, surely a bug right ?

 

[Anarcomu]

I can easily heavy tribute CS every single turn, surely a bug right ?

Yes, it is a bug. Hopefully it will be solved in the next version. I don't know if a bug report have already been filled in github, thought.

 

[Recursive]

Version 3.7.9 released. Link in OP has been updated.

Changelog:

- Fixed being able to demand tribute from City-States every turn
- Fixed crashes & issues related to Promotion Icons merge
- Deal AI Bugfixes
    Fixed AI offers having incorrect texts
    Fixed trade items of the human player being changed when asking the AI to equalize a deal
    Fixed the AI ignoring trade restrictions (for example the no permanent/temporary trade restriction) when adding items to an offer, which caused a lot of AI offers not to be made
    Fixed valuation of deal items not being updated after a completed deal while staying in the trade menu
    The value of each strategic resource item is now always a multiple of the value of 1 GPT.
    - This fixes getting a different total amount of gold when splitting up a deal into multiple parts.
    - It also fixes the AI not being able to make offers sometimes (for example when an item was valued at 1.5 GPT).
- Improvements to the City Governor
    City Governor now values Culture and Science yields slightly higher than Production and Gold yields
    City Governor more likely to assign Artist/Writer/Musician specialists
    City Governor properly takes into account food consumption of specialists
    City Governor properly takes into account urbanization caused by specialists and its effect on local and global happiness levels
    If "Avoid Growth" is activated, the City Governor no longer attempts to have a food surplus in the city
- Tactical AI improvements
    Smarter unit choices
    Garrisons should not withdraw before attacks
    Combat simulator now has more elaborate detection for duplicate positions, skips blocked moves earlier
    Adjusted combat simulator XML values in DifficultyMod.xml
    Added additional logging
- Updated Communitas map with latest AssignStartingPlots changes
- Fixed a bug in CanTrainCity where it was reporting false positives on Lua due to inconsistent return statements
- Fixed Vassal Overview display bug for human vassals
- Added Civ Start Biases to the Civilopedia
- Added IsAnnexedCityStatesGiveYields LUA method
- Text fixes
- Code cleanup

Online as of 1:50 PM CST. Should be savegame compatible with 3.7 versions.

 

[JNZS13]

- Improvements to the City Governor

 

[axatin]

I made some changes to the City Governor for this version, in particular to how the assignment of specialists is calculated. Let me know if it works better now or if there are things that should be improved.

 

[JNZS13]

On my save with Brazil, right after my first carnival, my culture skyrocketed and is already influential in relation to the only civilization i've ever known. This is normal?

 

[Anarcomu]

Well, check Brazil's UA. This looks normal.

 

[Recursive]

Version 3.7.10 released. Link in OP has been updated.

Changelog:

- In the trade screen, items that the AI considers "IMPOSSIBLE!" are now highlighted in red (thanks, axatin!)
- Tactical AI adjustments to account for naval combat edge cases

Online as of 11:47 PM CST. Should be savegame compatible with 3.7 versions.

 

[Recursive]

Version 3.7.11 released. Link in OP has been updated.

Changelog:

- Fixed a crash caused by the new city governor changes
- Fixed not being able to buy repeal votes in the trade screen
- Adjusted Diplo AI "close to victory" thresholds that trigger endgame aggression boost
     Close to Diplo Victory: 75% -> 55%
     Close to Culture Victory: 75% -> 60%
     For an explanation of how these values are calculated, see the Guide to Victory Competition (Vox Populi Diplomacy Guides thread)

Online as of 1:26 PM CST. Should be savegame compatible with 3.7 versions.

 

[tsmith7163]

I updated mid game and was playing Norway- and it changed my all my Knarr( unique Norway ship unit) to snipers ( not sure where this came from) lol. Does anyone know if this can be easily fixed are what that fix would be. I'm also using enhance naval warfare and 4UC and azum4roll tweaks.

Or if it doesn't have an easy fix is it ok to start a new game playing Norway or would this change most likely follow it ( Knarr to Sniper).

Also noticed the start bias boxes appearing everywhere