New Xbox basically kills off used games
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Kozmos
Jew Detective
Rather than listen to the customers I wagers they were listening more to the shareholders who were throwing a fit. They will try to push this down again once they have a sufficient installed base.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/...ails-to-sell-the-future-retreats-to-the-past/
So they got rid of discless sharing, got rid of discless play of installed games and got rid of redownloading games if your disc becomes unavailable.
Now the only advantage this has over the 360 is a full selection of downloadable titles instead of a random assortment.
So they got rid of discless sharing, got rid of discless play of installed games and got rid of redownloading games if your disc becomes unavailable.
Now the only advantage this has over the 360 is a full selection of downloadable titles instead of a random assortment.
Mise
isle of lucy
Yeah, to be honest, I'd rather they made the thing $100 cheaper and made the games $5 cheaper than PS4 across the board, that's what would have sold me on it. To me, this still just makes the XB1 an expensive version of the PS4. A choice between a PS4 that allows you to lend, borrow, sell, etc games and has no online requirement, and an XB1 that has all those restrictions but offers a cheaper product and other advantages that are only available with pure digital products is a difficult choice. A choice between a PS4 and an XB1 that is basically the same but $100 more expensive is not a difficult choice.
You know, I don't have a problem with that. What they had before was draconian and unnecessarily restrictive. People in remote areas might actually buy an XB1 now, rather than absolutely no chance at all.
Mise
isle of lucy
I don't see why they couldn't have used either disc-based or online-based rights checking. As in, you can play if you have the disc in the drive OR if you are online and logged in to Xbox Live. That way, MS could have advanced its digital distribution strategy while still allowing people to use the old ways if they wanted, while they got used to the new way.
Now all Sony needs to do is implement Microsoft's "family of 10" sharing ideas and so on, which isn't a difficult thing to do from this point. But it would be massively difficult for MS to a double U turn on this! Sony can just ease in what I said above, about using online-based rights checking as an optional extra thing, over the course of the next few months. Then what MS originally had as a huge negative will turn into a big positive for Sony. MS have played this terribly...
Now all Sony needs to do is implement Microsoft's "family of 10" sharing ideas and so on, which isn't a difficult thing to do from this point. But it would be massively difficult for MS to a double U turn on this! Sony can just ease in what I said above, about using online-based rights checking as an optional extra thing, over the course of the next few months. Then what MS originally had as a huge negative will turn into a big positive for Sony. MS have played this terribly...
I don't know why they didn't go for that either. It seems to be somewhat of a "toys out of a pram" moment where someone doesn't like most of an idea but does like one small area, so the idea man says, "fine, you can't have any of it then!" and storms off.
Mise
isle of lucy
Amusingly, in order to enable offline mode on your brand new XB1, you have to download a patch.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/05/ask-microsoft-anything-about-xbox-one
Now you can leave your Kinect unplugged if you want.
Now you can leave your Kinect unplugged if you want.
Mise
isle of lucy
Wow... Way to kill all the good will you've engendered in the past few months, Sony!
KMRblue1027
Deity
That clause has been in the EU version of the TOS for 7 years. The whole reason it exists is to prevent people from gobbling up like 50 games and acting like an illegal vender. It just synchronized the two versions, due to the PS4 lack of region locking they had too.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
That TOS is about a typical as anything I've ever read. It isn't taking your rights away. Spying on you isn't new, either, and it really has to be enforced to protect the community from abusive people, hackers, etc. Nothing about taking away used game privileges has been confirmed.
a.k.a learning to read, Zelig.
a.k.a learning to read, Zelig.
Mise
isle of lucy
It sure looks a lot like what MS is doing.
azzaman333
meh
Yeah but since Sony's doing it, it's a necessary evil, rather than something that everyone needs to kick up a giant fuss over.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/400026003101065216
Shuhei Yoshida confirms you're all wrong. Reading comprehension sucks up in here, eh?
Mise
isle of lucy
So their Terms of Service are wrong then.
That claim doesn't appear to be relevant to anything I've posted - I don't see anything that isn't factually correct.
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