Non-Interventionist President Launches Intervention

[red_elk]

I'm eagerly awaiting Russia's resolution calling for an investigation.

Don't worry, there will be the one.
Western-proposed resolutions strangely tend to condemn one side of the conflict before investigation even started, or worse, legitimize military strikes against that side.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

I hope we can all agree this is how the real news should look like:

 

[Sommerswerd]

That was legit funny... Reminds me of Spicy's first couple weeks... the Frederick Douglass question in particular

 

[Lexicus]

First of all Japan, Germany should have Veto powers in the UN, out ranking both France and UK in economic power but certain countries dont want that.

They don't have NUKES though which is the important part.

 

[Commodore]

First of all Japan, Germany should have Veto powers in the UN, out ranking both France and UK in economic power but certain countries dont want that.

Veto powers are only for the UNSC which is a security organization, so economic power shouldn't be a determining factor in who gets veto powers. Who has power in a security organization should be determined by military might, in which case both France and the UK outrank both Japan and Germany according to the Global Firepower Index.

 

[red_elk]

Japan and Germany words are not backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!
(recalling what forum we're on...)

 

[Lexicus]

Veto powers are only for the UNSC which is a security organization, so economic power shouldn't be a determining factor in who gets veto powers. Who has power in a security organization should be determined by military might, in which case both France and the UK outrank both Japan and Germany according to the Global Firepower Index.

Well, if you take nuclear weapons out of the equation their greater economic strength suggests they'd be able to win a protracted conflict. But yeah, the security council is about who has nukes, not about economic power.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I remember the first time I saw this...

and thinking... "Pfft! Gandhi?!? Please you and I both know you're a pacifist pushover... no way you'd ever drop a nuke

meep...

 

[Yeekim]

How many times has the US used their veto in defense of Israel?

No idea. But I'm pretty sure they haven't been suspected of gasing anyone recently.
Edit: I do recall the white phosphor scandal from 2008, which was investigated by UN.

 

[Sommerswerd]

So Assad is calling BS on the gas attack story. He directly calls it a US false flag/propaganda justification for the US strike. He also implies that the videos of the aftermath are "fake" and that the children might not even have been dead. "100% fabrication" is his exact words.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39586500

 

[red_elk]

He also implies that the videos of the aftermath are "fake" and that the children might not even have been dead.

Life saving procedures, showing on these videos, likely are fake.
http://theindicter.com/white-helmet...fake-lifesaving-and-malpractices-on-children/

At best, "rescuers" were using kids dead body for their propaganda video, at worst they might have killed him during the procedure.

Edit: The video analyzed in the article is from 2015 attack, but made by the same "White Helmets" group.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Well, if you take nuclear weapons out of the equation their greater economic strength suggests they'd be able to win a protracted conflict. But yeah, the security council is about who has nukes, not about economic power.

Their greater economic strength is extremely reliant on external resources, and thus reliant on international cooperation. Their ability to survive a protracted conflict is suspect, at best.

 

[Lexicus]

Their greater economic strength is extremely reliant on external resources, and thus reliant on international cooperation. Their ability to survive a protracted conflict is suspect, at best.

Sure, but since this is a totally ridiculous hypothetical situation I'll just say that part of the hypothetical is that the protracted conflict has no other effect on international relations. Which makes no real sense but ....hey look, a distraction!

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Sure, but since this is a totally ridiculous hypothetical situation I'll just say that part of the hypothetical is that the protracted conflict has no other effect on international relations. Which makes no real sense but ....hey look, a distraction!

SHINY!!!

 

[Commodore]

Well, if you take nuclear weapons out of the equation their greater economic strength suggests they'd be able to win a protracted conflict. But yeah, the security council is about who has nukes, not about economic power.

The Global Firepower Index does not factor nuclear arsenals into their calculations, but they do factor economic power as part of it, and France and the UK still rank higher than Japan and Germany.

 

[Kozmos]

MOAB was just dropped on a bunch of caves in Afghanistan. I'm not too familiar with it's performance in that role but I have a feeling Trumpinjo just told them to drop the yugest bomb that wasn't nucular.

 

[Commodore]

MOAB was just dropped on a bunch of caves in Afghanistan. I'm not too familiar with it's performance in that role but I have a feeling Trumpinjo just told them to drop the yugest bomb that wasn't nucular.

Potentially very effective since the MOAB is a thermobaric weapon which are supposed to be very effective against fortifications and bunkers, including caves.

From Wikipedia:

A thermobaric weapon is a type of explosive that utilizes oxygen from the surrounding air to generate an intense, high-temperature explosion, and in practice the blast wave typically produced by such a weapon is of a significantly longer duration than a conventional condensed explosive. The fuel-air bomb is one of the most well-known types of thermobaric weapons.

Most conventional explosives consist of a fuel-oxidizer premix (gunpowder, for example, contains 25% fuel and 75% oxidizer), whereas thermobaric weapons are almost 100% fuel, so thermobaric weapons are significantly more energetic than conventional condensed explosives of equal weight. Their reliance on atmospheric oxygen makes them unsuitable for use underwater, at high altitude, and in adverse weather. They do, however, cause considerably more destruction when used against field fortifications such as foxholes, tunnels, bunkers, and caves—partly due to the sustained blast wave, and partly by consuming the available oxygen inside. Thermobaric weapons have the longest sustained blast wave and most destructive force of any known non-nuclear explosive

 

[red_elk]

MOAB was just dropped on a bunch of caves in Afghanistan. I'm not too familiar with it's performance in that role but I have a feeling Trumpinjo just told them to drop the yugest bomb that wasn't nucular.

May be it's a rule for POTUSes - if your last name starts with Trum..., you have to drop yuge bomb on somebody.

 

[JollyRoger]

Not even Hitler resorted to dropping such a yuge load.

 

[Sommerswerd]

SHINY!!!