NotW LVII - Tempus Fugit (game thread)

[choxorn]

Why me? I didn't even realize your accusation was serious until now.

 

[Jarrema]

fast things are best

vote: Spaceman

 

[dicetosser1]

reasons pizza?

 

[Murska]

We're just following him based on nothing? Really? I might not want to lynch ATPG yet, but sheeping him at this stage is just a bit too much trust.

 

[Cass_]

Skimmed to #182. Need a re-read and look at notes before placing vote but initial gut reactions are Scum possible in Cuth/Lohren, Kenni, Murska, maybe Sips. Not particularly strong on any of these. Wary of Pizza but won't vote there today. Have Spaceman as null, not sure I like the speed/late wagon away from Cuth.

Thoughts and questions:

Well, what do you think about Takhisis today? They had 3 votes on them for a while, so that'd be about as close to pressure as we've seen. He seems to have thrown around a bunch of suspicion without any real focus insofar as I can tell. Have you played with him, do you know if it's normal?

Murska, I find this question weird given that Tak seems no different to Rappers.

1. Why ask Pizza this question?
2. Have you played with Tak beyond Rappers?
3. What do you think about him here? Would you expect him to react differently in either alignment?

Hm. So you don't think we'll get much use out of trying to pressure him?

Unvote; Vote: Cuthillius

Hey Cuth. Do you feel like anyone's openings have been artificial in nature? I don't expect anything as obvious as my OP in the rapper game but seeing other people's viewpoints on these help.

Where are your own opinions on the intros?
Why vote Cuth?

Spoiler :

Certain roles are inherently better for town to resolve by allowing the mafia to take shots at them.

Early game claimed doctors, early game claimed cops, early game claimed masons.

If those roles survive to the late game after having claimed, there is grounds for suspicion, if those roles claim very late in the game, there is grounds for suspicion, but if they are who they say they are, they will get resolved by mafia murders.

Other roles which are similar but not quite as crucial are roles such as the "innocent child" which is essentially a solo mason that can be revealed at any time simply by PMing the game host. Someone claims innocent child early on, you generally allow for the murder to take care of them.

You can go against those ideas if you suspect they're lies, because sometimes they are lies.

I used a tracker role in a different game to that effect, I used it to track Zack every single night, which would verify his whereabouts and my own, and use the power in a manner which is fairly useless to a mafia team, essentially forming a masonry between myself and Zack. I was quickly murdered off.

I am none of the above roles but I have a similarly easily confirmable active role which must always be eliminated by the murder, or the mafia have bigger cojones than I do.

This is as plain and simple as I can explain it. I am honestly baffled I needed to, but there's a day left in the round and CFC is notorious for having people not move their votes on day one.

*Spoiler moved for reference. FTR I'm eternally wary of Pizza and I found the bold slightly defensive, but his early hint could come from him in either alignment imo. Either way, I think he's likely to be a self resolving player I don't think he should be voted out early.

Lohrenswald for his whole thing, I'll elaborate in a separate post

Golden for random post and then coming back in and making a very fluffy post.

DuffKilligan for unexplainedly hopping on a wagon. (admittedly may be standing otu to me because it is a vote on myself, but eh)

Al Sipsclar for being the third vote on pizza for no reason, either.

Spoiler :

RVS (1)

This is apparently commenting on the fact that there is a separate column for "not alive" people. (2)

In response to my vote, which seems a little blown out of context considering he voted Takh, for again literally no reason. (3)

Saying something unrelated when you vote for someone? Is that a joke? Is it a reason? Tell me, do you enforce high standards on yourself, typically? (4)

This is imo his worst post, commentating and fluff (5)

vote:Lohrenswald

Nothing damning, but pretty good reasoning for halfway through d1 I'd say.

1. Why are 1 and 2 relevant wrt Lohr?
2. Why do you have a problem with Lohr asking for reasons? (Especially weird when you're simultaneously Fos'ing Duff and Sips for lack of explanation).
3. Why does Duff's vote on you stand out more than GK's?

FWIW I can somewhat agree on Lohr and Al Sips atm - Lohr mainly for reaction to the vote from Cuth, Al Sips slightly because his push to vote Pizza is weird and I'm not seeing Town!Sips as per Snakes (slightly null considering he was Town in Rappers and different there also).
I'm null on GK and Duff.

Cuth looking alright for now

Why?

So ahhh teh rules state Bold is an accusations and the prefix vote: isn't required, therefore these two are valid sneaky votes...

Does this matter? Are either of the players suspicious to you at this stage?

Hm. It's past time we started playing, too. I honestly don't have much of a feel for this game yet, I'm dreadfully busy, but insofar as I can tell there's a few people with two votes and no real pressure on anyone.

Unvote; Vote: ATPG. Third vote on you. You've posted a bit, a seemingly joke vote on choxorn but you do mention that you intend to lynch him with it. Do you have any reason to push him or it it just random? And if it is random, do you have any thoughts on the rest of our players?

I like the line of questioning, but why add a vote to Pizza's wagon here?

 

[Cass_]

Sorry for the double post - not sure how else to catch up without making one impossible WoT

What do you think about Al?

Why ask this so early, after Al had only made one ?RVS post?

No I don't really get it
you claim a kinda important role to get killed?
that's what it sounds like to me, and it doesn't seem like a great thing to do

problem was there was no joke

Spoiler :

Well I tend to think of those as the same...

In Visorslash's game "this is madness" I was lynched because I couldn't remember all the nightorders I had given. It feels odd the sort of miniscule things people latch onto to read me as mafia. I can't help but wisching I had been less active at this point.

Honest opinon is that I think SpørPizzaFyren is putting up some sort of charade or somesuch to hide that he is mafia. Of course, last time I played with him I thought the same and was wrong.

Infact let me take something Glossysushi said in the rapper game

While I was infact mafia, Glossy vastly overestimates my abilities. Ask Al Sipsclar, for example.

as for my vote on Takhisis, he is my arch nemesis and can't be left alone

1. Why so sensitive about an early vote?
2. Do you have any leans besides Pizza at this stage?

Didnt read the last relecant posts but I'll hop in here and say it's alright for anyone to die

It's like you guys don't even have basic knowledge of the timespace continuum

No one is really "the worst choice"

Kenni, do you have any leans besides Spaceman?

wont be voting pizza today

Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman98 View Post
Sorry for the double-post, but:

that's a pretty long and involved chain of reasoning to expect people to follow, especially because we have a lot of new players. But even for relatively experienced people like myself: I've never heard of the innocent child role until this post, nor been in a game with one, so that ment nothing to me.

especially because his opening is so vapid lol, it's ridiculous to expect anyone to get anything at all from that


@spaceman haven't heard or seen inno child. How much experience are we talking here?


the red is Zack seems very fixated on pizza particularly that first post.

vote Zack

Why Zack over Lohr Dice?

I'm really not getting your logic and it seems like a scummy attempt to get Pizza killed for no good reason. And why are Jarrema and spaceman scum? And why do you comment on why it's a good idea to vote Pizza but not mention him at all in your <blank> is town/scum list?

I like these questions from Chox, although I read Sip's post as more sarcastic than serious (?)

I want to lynch spaceman98

But I don't know how to do that while also lynching choxorn

First world problems.

Why these two? Both of them seem to be asking questions/thinking so far.

Do not lynch today:

1) Bsmith1068
2) Cuthillius <-----Is under lynch threat
3) Zack
4) Dicetosser1
5) Takhisis
6) Kennigit
7) Lassie
8) Murska
9) Lohrenswald <-----Is under lynch threat
10) Askthepizzaguy

There are others up here with multiple votes as well.

Can we not?

I'll CFD literally anyone in the game outside of these 10 people.

I did a tally and it exploded on the launch pad. I think lohrens and Cuth are the leaders.

But it's not insurmountable.

1. Can you explain why not Tak? How is he anything but null? I don't follow why you would include him in 'Do not lynch' when you've already stated that he's unreadable and you've never seen him seriously try to solve?
ETA
2. Why not Cuth?
3. Why not Lohr?
4. Why not Kenni?
5. Why not Murska?

fast things are best

vote: Spaceman

Fast things are suspect IMO.
Why is Spaceman a good vote for today?

 

[Kennigit]

Not that I really care about, no

 

[Lohrenswald]

FWIW I can somewhat agree on Lohr and Al Sips atm - Lohr mainly for reaction to the vote from Cuth

Oh for Christ's sake it was bloody banter or something

1. Why so sensitive about an early vote?
2. Do you have any leans besides Pizza at this stage?

1. It had an aura of seriousness
2. Unfourtunately not, no

 

[Kennigit]

Eh, maybe atheotes

1. Atheotes
2. Spaceman



Person randomly chosen to be second most townie (behind kennigit): jarrema

 

[Lohrenswald]

My vote is useless anyway

Unvote

 

[Murska]

@Cass:
1: I wanted to see how Pizza would respond to it.
2: I don't think so. I've played a handful of games outside GITP, so it might be we've met. I don't recall.
3: I've resolved to keep an eye out. Unreadable people are just people we can't read yet. I do expect his reactions to be related in some way to his alignment, but I do not know how.

My opinions on people's intros aren't in a formalizable stage. I've got vague feelings that I'll write about once I spot something sufficiently interesting that I'm willing to go over and check specific people more thoroughly. I voted for Cuth because I knew he had some votes on him already. The same was true with the Pizza vote - I went over the thread, checked people who had more than one vote on them, picked someone whom I could expect would reply to my prod to air their thoughts a bit and voted them.

 

[Cuthillius]

Why ask this so early, after Al had only made one ?RVS post?

Because that post was iirc the third vote on a wagon, and probably the scummiest of the bunch.

 

[Cuthillius]

1. Why are 1 and 2 relevant wrt Lohr?
2. Why do you have a problem with Lohr asking for reasons? (Especially weird when you're simultaneously Fos'ing Duff and Sips for lack of explanation).
3. Why does Duff's vote on you stand out more than GK's?

They're his posts; also 1 relates to my reasoning with 3

It's the beginning of the game. He comes in, makes a vote without any reason. He puts in fluff text, but it's not really even a joke, just flavor. Then he goes after me for voting him very aggressively and says that he needs some "reason", even if it's a joke. Neither of which he really gave in the first place.

Lack of explanation is fine if it is a random vote, but gets worse the higher you are on a bandwagon.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Okay cuthillius
I'm sorry
Joke was the wrong word
I didn't think I was very aggressive
But if it seemed like so, I'm sorry

 

[Golden1Knight]

Unvote; Vote: Jarrema

Spaceman's wagon seems like a good place do hide, also don't know why you guys think that his lynching would be a good idea.

 

[DuffKilligan]

Why is there a sudden switch to Spaceman? That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense and I agree it's something to hide in.

Unvote Cuth: Vote Jarrema

 

[Snerk]

My vote is useless anyway

Unvote

What's up with you and no-voting d1, bro?

 

[Lohrenswald]

you tell me how to find a mafia D1 and I might vote against someone

 

[Lohrenswald]

I like not dying
but
I'd like a reason, even if it's only a joke

random

for the record, while I didn't say so in thread, I accepted this explanation and hoped to move on

 

[Snerk]

I'm too lazy to actually do it but now imagine me posting a link to a game where a random D1 lynch resulted in a dead mafiosi.

Spoiler :