NotW LVII - Tempus Fugit (game thread)

[Zack]

Morblah

Replies and stuff incoming as I get to them. Fell asleep at my desk earlier re-reading and making notes.

Could switch off Auto/Jarrema here due to low posts but I'm finding them both scummy tbh.
Why not provide thoughts etc when you're lined up for a lynch? The only reason to hold back is if you're scum avoiding implication imo. Murska currently null-scum for me and I don't really think it's fair taking him out today when he's given a RL reason for low activity. Of the next-possible wagons I'd probably prefer Newyn/KM but I don't necessarily think either of those is a good idea today either.

better write fast. I'll try to refrain from noting how obnoxious it is that you waited to say anything until right before the deadline despite being active in the currently active users list.

 

[Murska]

All right, I'm back. Spent half an hour reading everything, but I didn't actually read read everything. Pizza wants me killed, which I find unfortunate. I didn't pick up on anything obviously scummy on the read, but I'll try and find the time to seriously go over the thread, pick up some suspects and ISO them. It won't be today, however.

Vote: ATPG for being wrong. The actual reason is that I hate not having a vote in, but I don't have enough presence of mind to have anyone worthwhile to push compared to what active players are doing, I don't want to clog up a wagon and go to sleep in the case of a CFD of some sort and this vote is extremely unlikely to actually matter in any way.

 

[Arakhor]

Twenty minutes left, folks.

 

[Zack]

Autolycus:

Spoiler :

Alright, so atpg has declared himself to be somebody named "Jesus". Intriguing. That doesn't seem very Varethite to me. I think I'll inject myself into Cuth and diceroller's little bickering in the corner. C and V rhyme, so clearly a name starting with C is good cover for a Varethite .

Enough of Cuth, I think I meant Cass anyway. This is the problem with time.

Lohrenswald looks tasty and obstinate.

Hello, Lady Weston-Hogues. My, everybody seems to be very interested in little old me. I'm hardly a premier member of the Order, but I'm no Varethite.


KingMorgan, you say the case on me is thin, and yet you're still coming after me? That sounds like a Varethite trying to have things both ways.

Jarrema:

Spoiler :

vote: DuffKilligan

hello

I want my vote to mean something. At least, create some pressure.
Lohrenswald

fast things are best

vote: Spaceman

welcome to my world.

On unrelated note, if you guys think that either me or Auto have to be scum, I will happily vote: Autolycus

and, just to note, I was not targetting Pizza at night

I wonder why my vote on Auto was not registered in the tally. Was it simply overlooked, or maybe I am under some kind of influence?

Just for be sure, I will once more vote: Autolycus

Honestly null for both, I could see that behavior going either way for them. Of note:

- Auto's blatant disregard for his own life seems odd for a wolf

- Half the people voting for Jarrema are suspicious af (tak + duff/winston).

- duff/winston switched off from jarrema and latched onto auto to break the 4-way tie, yet is back to voting jarrema today

- BSmith was adamant about staying on Auto and was killed off.

Meh. I don't really care either way honestly. Vote: Jarrema to make it closer.

 

[dicetosser1]

better write fast. I'll try to refrain from noting how obnoxious it is that you waited to say anything until right before the deadline despite being active in the currently active users list.

sigh

tell me people dont use this crud reason here too? cause it means nothing. Some people go to sleep and leave their puter on and the thread open. they are logged in the whole time. You cant tell if they are there reading or if they are in the garage playing bondage games.

 

[Kennigit]

also you either cant read or are purposely trying to make pizzas role look different to what he claimed. Where do you get the whispering bit?

because he said he takes his action to a target?

That is all i mean by whispering

And tbh i dont know why you even answered for pizza in the first pkace because yea, i wasnt asking you what pizza's role is

Edit: well, naw, i was still thinking of alifnment whisoer whemn i said whisper.

 

[Cuthillius]

Dicetosser's exchange with pizza is towny, vote:Zack's exchange with the two of them is not.

 

[Arakhor]

You cant tell if they are there reading or if they are in the garage playing bondage games.

This one is crying out for a particular Spanish image macro.

 

[dicetosser1]

i didnt answer i said i thought i knew his role

if your gonna talk about what someone says how about using what they actually said instead of rewording it? Cause he actually said GIVE originally.

 

[Zack]

sigh

tell me people dont use this crud reason here too? cause it means nothing. Some people go to sleep and leave their puter on and the thread open. they are logged in the whole time. You cant tell if they are there reading or if they are in the garage playing bondage games.

I said obnoxious, not scummy, but I do note you seem just as eager to defend cass as she is to defend you. For whatever it's worth.

 

[dicetosser1]

EBWOP that should be answer FOR HIM

 

[Zack]

Dicetosser's exchange with pizza is towny, vote:Zack's exchange with the two of them is not.

Make your vote meaningful. Jarrema or auto?

 

[dicetosser1]

nope thats not a defence its a pet hate.

that reason gets bought up on DM and i it out every time they bring it up.

 

[Zack]

nope thats not a defence its a pet hate.

that reason gets bought up on DM and i it out every time they bring it up.

I am just particularly peeved because I have asked Cass the same question 1000 times and she still hasn't answered.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you chase two rabbits

I'm not going for either Jarrema or Murska today.

Auto can be the lynch.

 

[Zack]

Make your vote meaningful. Jarrema or auto?

Yeah, to expand on this - the deadline is in less than 10 minutes. It's 7 Auto and 5 Jarrema, with no one else above 2 votes. Voting for anyone other than the first two is absolutely meaningless and a throwaway vote. Pick one cuth, make a vote that isn't completely useless for later analysis.

 

[Cass_]

@Cass
I like that you noticed my different behavior than last game, as in: it gives me an idea that you're paying attention, like I saw you very much did on many things in last game. <- this is also based on your other posts and things you question people.

"[/B]Lassie - feels considerably different to last game, particularly volume/out-there-ish-ness. Not a fan of the lack of activity in the build-up to EoD/abstention from the vote."

Last game(both here and on MU) didn't bring me much result, being all over the place and posting a lot, and I also kinda enjoy just having a game with this level of activity, after having been completely absorbed by other games just a while ago.

I feel fairly good about current reads, for what there has been to base them on.

Was this a general observation, or in response to the question about why you lean me Town?

I understand enjoying a slower game, and tbh I'm thankful, but you still haven't explained/answered questions from #496/#499
(asking you to explain what you were right about, whether you've ever seen a n0 scum read as an option, why you have Town impressions of certain players including Kenni, Sips, Me).

The Auto wagon doesn't need more votes right now if we are to put pressure on other players as well.

Ta for response, fair enough for now.

I don't even care tbh if you guys are right about auto via luck, he has two posts. Both attempted jokes. I guess he did snap-bandwagon, but meh.

cass please answer the bolded in post 275. or acknowledge if you did already, have only skimmed very very briefly

what do you mean by bolded? Why would day 1 matter.

If you want to call it rolefishing, call it that. I am OK with that.

I am not saying everyone is pretending to be vanilla. But I don't particularly like people playing as if they were vanilla when I know, explicitly from the game rules, that everyone has a power

A rough breakdown is critically important for me, as a townie, and in this particular role. I assume there are more active than passive abilities.

My problem with this and other similar 'role-fishingish' posts you made early on was that it gave the impression of potential-scum pressuring for earlier-than-necessary role reveals. I don't think giving out that sort of information early is going to be helpful to anyone but scum. D1 is important because a)it's early and b)it sets a tone for your posts later on. FWIW #592 somewhat makes me doubt this is the case though, since you specifically asked about Newyn/Mat/Chox and watcher power and I'm thinking it's probably not likely that scum would be that overt.

don't have much time, but quickly before I go

what is dicetosser's scum meta? pizza if you (and I think cass?) are so sure he's town because he plays like this as town (i.e. his town meta is to play like scum), how would he look different if he was a wolf?

because all I see is a wolf playstyle, for reasons I already mentioned

I already answered this in my summary earlier. Dice is one of those players on our homesite who is Town when he's aggressive/direct and Scummy when he's not.
Full disclaimer: I've only played one game with him as Scum myself and it was a while ago. His meta may have changed, but I'm not reading him scummy for the things you are. Which you haven't exactly elaborated on beyond general comments/stuff both Pizza and I have said isn't scummy for Dice IIRC.

I can confirm this is true, and I received no noticeable effect from choxorn. Should I of done?

I'm leaning town on Tak, leaning town on Zack, town on atpg, cuth is pinging me but with the information available is most likely town IMO. Lassie is pinging me too, but Newyn I find most scummy right now, looks very hiding in plain sight for me. And the Auto wagon doesn't need to grow anymore with over half the day to go.

vote: Newyn

I think I'm mostly caught up now.

I don't entirely understand the bold or what part is being confirmed exactly, but I mostly like/agree with this post.
- Can you explain your reads?
- What do you mean by hiding in plain sight wrt Newyn? What do you make of his soft claim?/does that change your thoughts?
- And probably too late for this now but what's your actual opinion on Auto besides the wagon?

Cass, please explain why you find me to be scummy. I can understand pizza feeling a bit weird about me...i usually dont support him so easily. So my D1 vote may not sit well with his meta read on me. Also, i believe that my D2 post was probably made while he as composing his list and explanation. But you, i would like to know the reason.

I have never played with you before. Normally the kind of "away for a while" message you have posted is used by people who are very worried they might get votes on them while they are away or who don't want to return to make posts/vote changes. Maybe some one who knows your meta can understand better.

May be i am biased, but your analysis looks forced and scummy. be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety

Not a fan of this post tbh. This is what I had in notes at the time:
"Relatively uninvolved D1, vote on Spaceman 'humouring' Pizza = ?sus. Starts D2 with ?fluff - comments without providing analysis/opinions, holds off on vote (?towny for not fabricating reads but doesn't actually seem to be trying to figure things out/isn't doing work); reacts somewhat aggressively to scum lean against him discredits analysis as 'forced/scummy'."

From there I've added: "Like the vote on Newyn and the reasoning behind it. Interaction with Pizza over votes is again weird and he hasn't questioned/reacted to Kenni's suspicion of him D1."


Can you please explain the bold?

 

[dicetosser1]

hmmm that intersting


someone tell me the pg rating on this site?

 

[Sprig]

unvote: Vote Jarrema

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

There's an auto-censor

Just avoid english words that are considered cursing by any stretch of the parental imagination.