NOTW XLIII - The Walkingdead!

[Earthling]

Every single dead player achieved a loss, correct? (Or were there a couple authorities or other non-Survivors who still accomplished some group goal?)

It was heavily disappointing but by the end I'd figured out that mayor infected nobody else despite being a zombie for 4-5 days; either it was truly bad luck of the game mechanics or mayor just didn't send orders, guess I'll find that out.

Sorry to Mat as well, that was a brutal way to go, I even thought on the day it happened that the result would be no lynch. I didn't even particularly think you were scum, I thought johnhughthom was the last human scum/killer of Backwards Logic. I just had to vote somebody and then got lucy on the draw too.

edit- oh, visorslash was a sort of scum then by the final reveal. He would've killed BL then, I thought we still had a gun missing from classical_hero. That's interesting

 

[BSmith1068]

God how I wish I had vigged Earthling the night I got killed. I got confused with the deadlines and never put in the order.

 

[Earthling]

God how I wish I had vigged Earthling the night I got killed. I got confused with the deadlines and never put in the order.

I wasn't a zombie at that point. It wasn't until Night Sixteen, the same night I got a gun for the very first time, that I became a zombie thanks to mayor.

That vigilante group cost the victories of an absurd number of townies by getting them killed. To the victorious five good job of course, you all earned it, just wish it had been from all becoming zombies or something we could have shared.

 

[Buddhafish]

Oh Yeah!!!

Survivor Victory!!!!

I was really wondering how this game would end. I was really hoping we wouldn't have to go and kill all of the zombies.

On another note, I was planning on vigging Kennigit tonight and Verarde tomorrow night, if the game hadn't ended and we wouldn't have won. But I'm glad we won, and I never had to kill anybody.

 

[Kennigit]

I'll take it. yay.

 

[Bad Player]

And yes it was a paranoia setup! Most of the damage was self-inflicted, as you'll see tomorrow.

I kept pleading with everyone to stop the lynchings and wait for the scanners but noone listened! They just thought I was scum the whole game!!!

 

[choxorn]

Well, normally, not lynching is a self-defeating tactic. This game wasn't normal at all, clearly.

 

[Earthling]

I'm not sure many people did think you were scum, it just happened to be two people who had guns and were able to kill you that did. However, at the time you were against it we DID need to lynch people - and so we got Autolycus, and if we'd done classical next as a bunch of us wanted and caught Visorslash soon after, yes, we then could have been in the clear. (Optimism that the scanners would catch the serial killer eventually, that would be easy, and then people would stop dying)

It is interesting to read what everyone at the end was thinking on who to vig. I still wanted johnhughthom gone and even as a zombie thought he was human scum. (Not getting a standard message after Visorslash that "All of the Company Agents have been eliminated" was a huge factor though)

I was also going to vig choxorn if it came down to it in the endgame, because his later statement that he had a victory condition in his Role PM, from some discussion with classical, directly contradicted his earlier statement and was very annoying. It turns out he wasn't a vanilla townie anyway, he was a townie with a role, I don't quite know what went wrong on clarifying that to us since it should have been obvious to him, different picture and role PM structure and all. I was willing to give him credit for being a deep undercover Company Agent willing to sacrifice his partners and all that.

 

[choxorn]

I was totally a vanilla townie Survivor except for the lynch-stopping ability. If I said that I had a VC, it was because Takhisis told me that after I asked him what it was (and even then, I still was never really sure)

Like I told you and Kennigit in PM, I wanted to vig Buddha and Mat at first, and later you, and I almost did.

 

[Earthling]

You had the picture that Takhisis posted in the end in your Role PM right? He didn't just do that at the end? You weren't the same as other vanillas who all had the same Survivor picture and so on. I can post my PM, what you said early in the game was what I thought matches but it didn't so it was just a lucky guess for the wrong reason. We vanillas had nothing there at all, and Takhisis wouldn't give us any VC information, except all vanilla survivors automatically losing if they died (the only thing Takhisis ever clarified) also was brutal.

You are Jerry, a Survivor!

Abilities: You have no Abilities as of now.
Items: You have no Items as of now.

 

[Visorslash]

The short deadline screwed us over a bit, but eh.

Getting Bad Player killed was a masterstroke CH.

 

[Earthling]

I think you guys could have won it if you'd been more aggressive. Guess you weren't aware of the extent to which Backwards Logic was refusing to talk to or share information with other townies and you were too cautious around him; we would have had no clue where to pin the blame among you guys, jht, Mat, and maybe a couple of others. You had the guns and if you'd kept doing two kills a night (after the Bad Player/Frozen kills) and just killed, say BL/Bsmith, then the next night killed me or Kennigit or choxorn, you probably could have overwhelmed the town. (and just by killing people you naturally would have taken out any zombies along the way, if mayor converted someone else)

Too bad about Autolycus, I assume you had contact with him but he was very inactive, so I know that's regrettable.

About the confirmed townie part though - I told so many people in private that you were trying to lynch me to "avenge the death of Autolycus" which was kinda obvioius. You could have just nightkilled me Visorslash.

 

[Visorslash]

I think you guys could have won it if you'd been more aggressive. Guess you weren't aware of the extent to which Backwards Logic was refusing to talk to or share information with other townies and you were too cautious around him; we would have had no clue where to pin the blame among you guys, jht, Mat, and maybe a couple of others. You had the guns and if you'd kept doing two kills a night (after the Bad Player/Frozen kills) and just killed, say BL/Bsmith, then the next night killed me or Kennigit or choxorn, you probably could have overwhelmed the town. (and just by killing people you naturally would have taken out any zombies along the way, if mayor converted someone else)

Too bad about Autolycus, I assume you had contact with him but he was very inactive, so I know that's regrettable.

Autolycus was inactive. Zack threw away important papers. I was planning on killing BL the night BSmith died, but the short deadline screwed us over. In that case, you, BSmith and BL would all be dead.

 

[Earthling]

Looking back on it Day Fourteen was absolutely the most crucial point of the entire game. Although I have to retract my previous assessment, looking at the timing of things I don't think you would have won with that strategy because classical and Visorslash were both already top lynch candidates by all the other townies come Day 15. Maybe if you convinced Backwards Logic to kill me/choxorn/Kennigit, while at the same time killing BL/Bsmith yourselves, you could have eliminated enough voting townies to win the vote.

Mayor was also already a zombie that day, I'm very sure of that because of his votes.

I'll tell you perhaps the best part of the game for me was seeing people who weren't zombies, post like zombies sometimes (only posting votes). Kinda funny. If more people had been converted it could have led to some mistakes in zombies figuring out their kind (being converted gave you no info/contact with other zombie players)

 

[Visorslash]

Looking back on it Day Fourteen was absolutely the most crucial point of the entire game. Although I have to retract my previous assessment, looking at the timing of things I don't think you would have won with that strategy because classical and Visorslash were both already top lynch candidates by all the other townies come Day 15. Maybe if you convinced Backwards Logic to kill me/choxorn/Kennigit, while at the same time killing BL/Bsmith yourselves, you could have eliminated enough voting townies to win the vote.

Mayor was also already a zombie that day, I'm very sure of that because of his votes.

I'll tell you perhaps the best part of the game for me was seeing people who weren't zombies, post like zombies sometimes (only posting votes). Kinda funny. If more people had been converted it could have led to some mistakes in zombies figuring out their kind (being converted gave you no info/contact with other zombie players)

If Takh hadn't screwed up the deadlines, BSmith, BL and you would be dead as above.

But mistakes happen, so I don't mind.

 

[Earthling]

Yeah but looking back at what happened on what day, those kills would have come after the point where Kennigit/choxorn/Verarde/mayor/Buddhafish/Mat (though Mat was a serial killer and mayor was a zombie) were all explicitly informed and intended to kill you/classical_hero. You still would have been lynched (though that could have ended up eventually costing the town victory to the SK or to zombies, due to more townies being dead)

You guys had it rough overall though so the effort against the town was still very impressive, in terms of game balance I'm waiting to see and don't get a lot of stuff.

 

[Mergle]

hey! I won! Thanks to Buddhafish playing me! Thanks, Buddhafish!

 

[Optical]

Sorry to the other Farmers for that blunder with the items/location choice. Didn't quite work.

I was the leader of the Farmers, by the way, not that I did much. I never even got my hands on any sheep bombs

 

[classical_hero]

The short deadline screwed us over a bit, but eh.

Getting Bad Player killed was a masterstroke CH.

I am very proud of that moment of convincing BL that I was roleblocked and he jumped to the conclusion that Bad Player did the role block, when my cover Role of Daryl Paine was blown, since I really could not protect. My real role was of Dr Lazar, the guy who started this mess and was the person that BL was after. I tried to use what I knew about the scenario. The night Seon Died I killed him and Visor was supposed to have protected him, but he got bitten by a Zombie that night, so the protection did not work, but in any case it would have killed him. The night I killed Bsmith was unfortunate since it meant that due to an error by the host we lost our chance of winning, but C'est la vie. One thing i am frustrated about was my team mates, since they basically were not helpful at all and when I had told Zack about my goals, which one of them was to get the papers and destroy them, he did not give them to me at all. I could not believe he did that. But once Visorslash came aboard things run so much smoother and i was happy to have a productive team mate. So thanks to Visorslash for almost getting us close to the finishing line.

This is what Zack said to me after I was annoyed that he did not give me the papers. It is post 30 in the Company QT.

"We"? Those are your victory conditions, not mine.

Talk about great teamwork. It wasn't a hopeless situation, since I eventually got them back, but the fact he rage quit after that really annoyed me, but in the end I got a better partner.

This is my cover role of Daryl Paine.

You are now a Survivor!

The tough nut Chief of Security with a soft center, you used to work for the Company, but now after the Zombie outbreak you've realised the error of your ways and have joined forces with the Survivors in order to undo the evil you've done.

Abilities: Sacrifice. You can throw yourself between someone and impending doom, because of your soft center, and save their arses, because of your being such a tough nut.
Items: You have no Items as of now.

(you'll be listed as just 'Daryl Payne' in the player list)

This is my real role.

You are Dr. Lazar, in the Company's employ.

You've escaped into this room with all the other Survivors and know that the only way in which you can continue with your life of maniacal experimentation and illegal drug development is by carrying out the plans laid out by Director van Allen to control a level 1 scenario:

• Cutting all Communication Channels to the mainland so the Authorities don't learn about it all
• Destroying all Evidence
• Developing the ZV-69 Antidote
• Issuing a Press Release with the help of Spin Doctors.

Only then can you deal with the Authorities and control the civilian population.

Victory Conditions: Survival. Elimination of all Zombies. Fulfillment of van Allen's Plan.

Item: Syringe. Shots: 1. This syringe contains one (1) shot at present of the elusive ZV-68 Anti-Zombie medication. When used, this will cleanse the target of any Zombie infection(s) they might have. It's recommended that you acquire more.

This is the Stocks and Shares QuickTopic. You shall be joined in it by Autolycus (Agent N) and Zack (Security).

Wait for your Cover Role PM! If the game has started and I've forgotten to send you one, give me a prod.

 

[mayor]

Every single dead player achieved a loss, correct? (Or were there a couple authorities or other non-Survivors who still accomplished some group goal?)

It was heavily disappointing but by the end I'd figured out that mayor infected nobody else despite being a zombie for 4-5 days; either it was truly bad luck of the game mechanics or mayor just didn't send orders, guess I'll find that out.

I blame the game mechanics... I have bitten, or tried to bite, someone every night since I became a full fledged zombie

EDIT 1: hmm.. I bit Earthling, Buddhafish and Mat93 in that order... maybe I did miss a night

EDIT 2: Nope didn't miss a night. I was bitten on night 12, became a zombie on day 14. Bit Eathling night 14, bit Buddha night 15, bit Mat night 16 and was killed lynched day 17.

EDIT 3: And I was pretty convinced that Johnhughthom was also a zombie due to his last two posts

Sorry for missing the previous phase.

BuddhaFish and Mat93.

Vote: Earthling

Me and Kennigit.