Orbis Bug Thread (Old)

[Schwarzbart]

Not Sure if this is some kind of Bug or just very bad Luck but 1/4 to 1/3 of all non Combat Explore events gave me Rod of Winds in my curent game. Now I already have 5 Rods of Winds oO

 

[abqaiq93]

Yes, I am noticing a lot of repeat of events happening with this new version.

I got the board game event 4 times over the first 100 turns of the game, which means playing at Emperor level with pearls I could get my capital city up to size 9 or 10.

The meteor event also happened 3 times, of course I could just sell the rock for money, but if another race had the other prerequisites might be able to make the scorch staff 3 times.

I am new to this game, I have only started 5 games and gone over 100 in all 5, but the announcements of the AI civilizations get a bard has happened a lot in the first 100 turns. This might be event related as well. Because I have not been able to discover how these races get a bard so quickly.

These were the events that happened multiple times. This is with patch H (not the newer changed one 12 hours later ) with me starting a new game first to clear the cache and then starting a new custom game. Also the "Living World" option was not selected so my events were not being doubled.

 

[Opera]

The bards are due to the Clairone event I believe. Did you notice some crappy AI city? They usually go for the bard even though they get a huge malus due to anger...

 

[Omegon3]

Perhaps fixed in the latest Orbis patch, but because it's a real game killer I figured that I would report it anyway. I don't know if it's related, but this error came immediately after a vote for the Overcouncil (didn't matter which option I picked).

Traceback (most recent call first):

File "CvScreensInterface", line 748, in forceScreenRedraw

File "CvMainInterface", line 988, in redraw

File "CvMainInterface", line 1451, in updatePlotListButtons

RuntimeError: unidentifiable C++ exception

Like I said, this is a REAL game killer because you cannot get past it. The error just keeps repeating. Nothing special was happening at the time (no projects or special buildings coming in; no new units being produced).

 

[Caradoc]

Is there an effect of Chaos 3 (Wonder) that would transport the caster back to the capital? It looks as though that has happened to me, but I never saw it before. (The Archmage was not Immortal.)

 

[Opera]

Maybe it's the effect of Dimensional I, Escape?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

One possible result of Wonder is casting Escape.

 

[Omegon3]

Perhaps fixed in the latest Orbis patch, but because it's a real game killer I figured that I would report it anyway. I don't know if it's related, but this error came immediately after a vote for the Overcouncil (didn't matter which option I picked).

Traceback (most recent call first):

File "CvScreensInterface", line 748, in forceScreenRedraw

File "CvMainInterface", line 988, in redraw

File "CvMainInterface", line 1451, in updatePlotListButtons

RuntimeError: unidentifiable C++ exception

Like I said, this is a REAL game killer because you cannot get past it. The error just keeps repeating. Nothing special was happening at the time (no projects or special buildings coming in; no new units being produced).

Any ideas on how I can fix this so that I can finish my game(s). I started another "hotseat" game and, around turn 250, I got it again. I don't see ANY relationship between this and the previous game so far as when it occurred...??? Is there any way to trap this error so that, at minimum, the game can keep going?

Thanks for anyone that can help as this is getting real frustrating (and, no, I haven't made any changes to the pythons except for one line relating to the awarding of angels for Mercurians upon a unit's death -- and that worked like a charm).

 

[Opera]

Here's the culprit:

					screen.addSpecificUnitGraphicGFC( "InterfaceUnitModel", CyInterface().getHeadSelectedUnit(), -20, yResolution - 350, 160, 198, WidgetTypes.WIDGET_UNIT_MODEL, CyInterface().getHeadSelectedUnit().getUnitType(), -1,  -20, 30, 1, False )

It happens in updatePlotListButton; when you select an unit. I'm unable to find this function in the DLL though so I don't know what's wrong.

 

[Opera]

Also, one thing I just thought about: people reported ultra-severe slowdown with BarbarianWorld... Obviously, it has to do with the many units. But it doesn't seem to slow FF that much... And then I realized something: wouldn't that be the fault of the UnitStatistics? IIRC, it's python-based... So maybe a lot of units will make the game really slow.

# Change this to either enable or disable unit statistics for all players.
# Other players' statistics will be hidden unless g_bShowAllPlayers is 
# Also set to True
# Default value is False
g_bTrackAllPlayers = True

Turning this to False may do good to the performance, don't you think?

 

[Ahwaric]

Any ideas on how I can fix this so that I can finish my game(s). I started another "hotseat" game and, around turn 250, I got it again. I don't see ANY relationship between this and the previous game so far as when it occurred...??? Is there any way to trap this error so that, at minimum, the game can keep going?

Does it happen with every unit or just a particular one?
What patch do you run?
Can you post a save?

Thanks for anyone that can help as this is getting real frustrating (and, no, I haven't made any changes to the pythons except for one line relating to the awarding of angels for Mercurians upon a unit's death -- and that worked like a charm).

And a copy of your modifications, please...

Turning this to False may do good to the performance, don't you think?

Opera, have I told you recently that you are genius?

Obviously, it has to do with the many units. But it doesn't seem to slow FF that much...

There are many other possibilities though. I have heard FF 51 runs better than 50. I need to check their code to see if I can "acomodate" any improvements.

 

[Opera]

Opera, have I told you recently that you are genius?

I'm testing right now but I'm not sure it had any significant change since I didn't try Barbarian World since a long time... How is BarbarianWorld as of now?

There are many other possibilities though. I have heard FF 51 runs better than 50. I need to check their code to see if I can "acomodate" any improvements.

Yeah, this may not be just the Stats. I guess we could check where the barbarian code differs from FF51.

 

[Gelvan]

First I have to say: this mod (I played two Orbis and two LENA) is very cool!

The first Orbis game (since a year or something) was so impressively immersive.

I tried the Barbarian World, no city raze, no settlers option on standard and this was really quite slow - on small it was faster. The last game I played was with 0.40 LENA and it was quite fast (on small), but I'm not sure if you changed that value you wrote about above already?

I played Ljosalfar and the peace with animal with the ability to engage them, was a very good experience. I played (the last game) on noble and the AI was a bit handicaped by the no settler option. But the game is really fun, when there are many places you won't settle. It's a good thing, that Forts can be built anywhere, to increase borders, I think.

thanks for this mod!

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

yep, FF 051 runs a lot faster than 050.

good thinking Opy

 

[abqaiq93]

11 ai + 1 human player = 12 total civs
Erebius Continents Map Huge with Barbarian World - 25-30 seconds per turn
Erebius Continents Map Large with Barbarian World - 18-22 seconds per turn

11 ai + 1 human player = 12 total civs
Erebius Continents Map Huge no Barbarian World - 2 seconds turn
Erebius Continents Map Large no Barbarian World - 1 seconds turn

Big difference. So much so that I have turned off one of my favorite game options.

 

[Opera]

With or without the UnitStatistics fix?

 

[Opera]

Ahwaric, I think Horseback Riding shouldn't require The Wheel but only Animal Husbandry. If it's a balance problem, just give it ~100 more

 

[A Golden Dragon]

there is a logical explanation why it does require the wheel.

animals where mainly used to pull cart's wich had indeed, wheels
it was only after that, that our ancestors had the briljant idea of horseback riding. so in fact following earthen history, the wheel should be a required tech for horseback riding

 

[abqaiq93]

11 ai + 1 human player = 12 total civs
Erebius Continents Map Huge with Barbarian World - 25-30 seconds per turn
Erebius Continents Map Large with Barbarian World - 18-22 seconds per turn

11 ai + 1 human player = 12 total civs
Erebius Continents Map Huge no Barbarian World - 2 seconds turn
Erebius Continents Map Large no Barbarian World - 1 seconds turn

Big difference. So much so that I have turned off one of my favorite game options.

This is before the fix. I will try the fix out tonight.

 

[Opera]

there is a logical explanation why it does require the wheel.

animals where mainly used to pull cart's wich had indeed, wheels
it was only after that, that our ancestors had the briljant idea of horseback riding. so in fact following earthen history, the wheel should be a required tech for horseback riding

Hm. Well, maybe.

This is before the fix. I will try the fix out tonight.

Great