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Social Justice Rogue
What are you trying to say?
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What are you trying to say?
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
Fine, I won't. You don't have free will.
The argument for acceptance of homosexuality is better rooted elsewhere. I recall mentioning this to you before.
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Social Justice Rogue
It is: Homophobic, nasty, it doesn't work and is a cruel way of forcing homosexuals to deny themselves.
No problem at all, but just because the therapy is out there does not mean that it should be seen as an excuse for bigotry. After all, I don't hold it against you that you are a heterosexual, though there may be therapy out there that can convert you to homosexuality. I don't ask you to keep your orientation to yourself.
MantaRevan
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It's demeaning. It's like saying that if you're gay, there's something wrong with you, like you are some freak with a disorder.
CELTICEMPIRE
Zulu Conqueror
I take it you have never talked to an ex-gay before then?
@ Manta Revan, no one is forcing them to join therapy groups, it's their choice.
ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
I hear the gays have a good programme for curing Christianity.
I have. A few months before they got arrested for soliciting for gay sex in a park.
ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
Kissing men in a park? Blimey. I hope they frown against that in the Bible.
MantaRevan
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Accepting bigotry towards gays by hiding behind the excuse that you can have therapy is like saying that Jim Crowe laws are o.k. because people can always make themselves white, like Micheal Jackson.
I hear there is therapy that can curb homophobia, but it might not necessarily cure it.
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Social Justice Rogue
Because religion, parts of the media and frankly bigoted, backwards views portray homosexuality as being "wrong" and this puts pressure on people who unfortunately are vulnerable and feel that they are "wrong" for something that they could not help or choose.
Therapy does not help this, therapy merely reinforces this belief.
Does the therapy help overcome a fixation on Jesus and get the one in therapy back to chasing women again?
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Social Justice Rogue
I mean, there is a recision why LGBTers have a high rate of mental illness and suicide, CELTICEMPIRE.
Therapy is not the answer, tolerance and acceptance of LGBTers is, and untill then you'll see more LGBTers committing suicidem when they realise that they cannot change who they are, and that parts of society hate and fear them, for something that they could not control.
Therapy is not the answer, tolerance and acceptance of LGBTers is, and untill then you'll see more LGBTers committing suicidem when they realise that they cannot change who they are, and that parts of society hate and fear them, for something that they could not control.
Oruc
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If homosexuality is not a choice, then it is a defect and we should be working towards curing it.
Moderator Action: If you are going to claim something is a defect, you should back your claim up with actual evidence in the post. Otherwise, you're just being a troll.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
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Social Justice Rogue
If homosexuality is not a choice, then it is a defect and we should be working towards curing it.
Awesome!
So do you support eugenics in terms of homosexuals?
Also, I liked how you used the word "Curing" as if to imply it's akin to a disease.
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
I think it's been demonstrated by scientific studies that one's sexuality is, in large part, not a choice. Unless you had some other studies in mind? It's hardly unsubstantiated.
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