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[Winner]

Keep these videos coming. Europeans need to be constantly reminded just how insane the US politicians are so that they can better cope with the ones who rule their countries

 

[Mr. Dictator]

So apparently if you support DADT you are the world's biggest bigot

Yes, and 9 yards isn't a touch down, either.

 

[useless]

Would you have opposed de-segregation in the military? Afterall, both DADT and segregation in the military are bigoted, outdated, immoral and frankly idiotic.

 

[say1988]

So, Perry starts shouting "look at me" and people are paying attention. Unfortunate. The man is desparate for attention in an election that has abandoned him. Just ignore him.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Would you have opposed de-segregation in the military? Afterall, both DADT and segregation in the military are bigoted, outdated, immoral and frankly idiotic.

I would have opposed segregation on the grounds that classifying people into and discriminating because of race is wrong. Biology has proven that race is a societal construct, and God has said that we are all one race.

here is a liberal argument against repealing DADT:
http://voices.yahoo.com/why-lifting-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy-might-not-5656838.html

@ Maniacal, I'm just tired of the elitism, and I want to go back to doing what I came to CFC for, the Civ forums.

 

[useless]

Yet discriminating against LGBTers is perfectly fine? That's pretty inconsistent given neither race nor sexuality is a choice.

 

[JollyRoger]

here is a liberal argument against repealing DADT:
http://voices.yahoo.com/why-lifting-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy-might-not-5656838.html

I don't see how that is a liberal argument - in fact, not to get too elitist with my research skills, but it seems the writer is actually a conservative. A review of her contributions includes an article that starts out with:

If the United States takes on this health care policy the US is certainly in for disaster.
If the government chooses how much our doctors get paid it will certainly drive down the desire to be a Doctor let alone become one.

Another starts with:

Tougher gun laws do not make much of a difference to criminals. Does it really matter if we ban weapons? When it comes right down to it a criminal does not pay attention to any old laws let alone new laws passed concerning weapons.
The truth is the government can pass as many laws as they want banning assault weapons, they can ban hand guns, tell us to take this test or that test before we can own a weapon, what difference does it make.

Anyway, thre article you linked seems to be saying because there is no consensus on same sex marriage, we should keep don't ask, don't tell. I do not see how the two are connected. If you are legally married, you are legally married. It also goes on about unit assignment and how unmarried gays might not be able to be separated as easily as married couples. How is this a problem with orientation? Justy because you are heterosexual does not mean you are married. Ending don't ask, don't tell would seem to make separation of "couples" easier because now a couple could come forward and alert the military of the need for separation or if there is a suspected couple, the militray can know investigate to see if separation is warranted.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Yet discriminating against LGBTers is perfectly fine? That's pretty inconsistent given neither race nor sexuality is a choice.

there is a way out of homosexuality:
http://narth.com/2011/10/2061/

 

[JollyRoger]

there is a way out of homosexuality:
http://narth.com/2011/10/2061/

Do you think you can be coverted from heterosexuality to homosexuality?

 

[useless]

You cannot change your sexuality, you can only repress yourself.

 

[MantaRevan]

there is a way out of homosexuality:
http://narth.com/2011/10/2061/

No no no no no!

I'm tired of people insisting that people can "pray the gay away" or that homosexuality is a choice! Please, let's save ourselves the hatred, and talk about the ad itself.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

Do you think you can be coverted from heterosexuality to homosexuality?

yes, but why would I want to?

 

[JollyRoger]

Celebrating Christmas is not a choice. Just try to fight the aching urge to open that gift or suppress the temptation to put that gingerbread man in your mouth.

 

[useless]

Why would a homosexual want to either?

 

[Behind The Mask]

yes, but why would I want to?

Why would a homosexual want to convert to heterosexuality?

Of course, I'm going off the idea that people are able to be happy with who they are; and that no one else has a right to force of pressure change on another.

 

[JollyRoger]

yes, but why would I want to?

Reread that and think about it it for a while.

Anyway, from your quoted study:

First, the average change in sexual orientation was modest

Second, participants who had begun the change process prior to the start of the study appeared to have disproportionately positive outcomes compared to participants inducted into the study early in their pursuit of change. This may indicate that some weeding-out of individuals who were not successful in changing sexual orientation occurred in the time between the onset of pursuit of change and the initial collection of data.

A third limitation is the relatively small sample size, which makes any generalization of these findings to the population of individuals pursuing SOCE tentative.

 

[useless]

This is barely one step away from saying LGBTers are mentally ill and that homosexuals are "disordered".

 

[civver_764]

I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a Nord. But you don't need to be a Stormcloak to know there's something wrong in Skyrim when elves can live among the civilized, but our kids can't openly worship Talos. As the Dragonborn, I will end the Thalmor's war on humankind and fight Elvish attacks on our freedom. Talos made us strong, he can make us strong again.

 

[Rashiminos]

Yet discriminating against LGBTers is perfectly fine? That's pretty inconsistent given neither race nor sexuality is a choice.

*Cringe* Let you hope science does not march on, then.

 

[CELTICEMPIRE]

What do people have against those who wish to become straight through therapy, and those who help them do it.