Thanks, GreyFox. Your deployment was fine -- my only complaint was that part of our force at Lahore was on a hill without a road. Of course, I had seven turns to correct that and I didn't.
judging that you posted so late, i'd say..."perhaps she did thank you"
anyway, i'm gonna have to agree w/Fox, the situation seems tough, but, i agree, let's not throw in the towel. Though, i can't say that i think we'll be able to win regardless of how many cities we take. We need to kill THREE MORE CIVS to satisfy the variant. Doing that would be enough win for me (since i think we don't even have a chance to actually win this game), but i'm not sure even that's possilbe.
Should we take a vote before we invest anymore 's into this, so to speak?
I vote we continue and eliminate 3 more Civilizations. If we can do that, we declare victory.
Eliminating Catherine's partner will "simply" (ahem) require that we turtle-up in our border cities and avoid getting wiped out by her while we work on making her a widow. We should probably save them for last.
Are there modern-era UUs that we need to be concerned about? I think Catherine's Cossacks were the latest to appear in this game. We don't have German Panzers or American Seals coming up, at least.
Relax ... nobody said anything about giving up ... we will play to the end, of-course. I am just commenting abt the losing streak I'm in whenever pholky appear in the same SG as I am
Our way out is to build lots and lots of cannons ... these cannons are excellent ... well, cannon fodder lol ... when facing superior units (such as infantries).
Okay, i trusted a 2nd-Generation Fox-approved set-up so i just pushed enter, adn I wayyy, i go. . . [ps, i apologize in advance for the autolog report, but you're 1 of 5 people, so back off ]
IBT: While defending in Roman territory near Estruscan, Cavalry defeats (7.35/15): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 79.5%) While defending in Indian territory near Corinth, Rifleman loses to: English Cavalry (10.50/15) (Prob Victory: 1.1%) While defending in Roman territory near Estruscan, Cannon defeats (1.92/12): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 28.5%) While defending in English territory near Estruscan, Cannon loses to: English Redcoat (11.48/14) (Prob Victory: 28.5%) While defending in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cavalry loses to: Indian Cavalry (12.15/15) (Prob Victory: 32.4%) While defending in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cavalry defeats (3.00/15): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 4.4%)
Turn 372 (1703 AD) Neapolis begins: Rifleman New Athens begins: Cannon Neapolis begins: Cannon 1st Cavalry of New Athens (Cavalry) promoted: Combat I 1st Cavalry of New Athens (Cavalry) promoted: Pinch While attacking in Roman territory at Corinth, Rifleman defeats (1.40/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 88.2%) While attacking in Roman territory near Corinth, Grenadier defeats (8.16/12): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 99.9%) Rifleman promoted: City Garrison I Rifleman promoted: Combat II Cannon promoted: City Raider I Cannon promoted: City Raider I Cannon promoted: Combat I Cumae finishes: Rifleman Seoul grows: 14 Pisae grows: 10
IBT: While defending in Roman territory near Rome, Caravel loses to: English Destroyer (30.00/30) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) While defending in Indian territory at Bangalore, Rifleman loses to: English Redcoat (3.36/14) (Prob Victory: 34.5%)
Turn 373 (1706 AD) Cumae begins: Cannon 1st Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) promoted: Combat I 1st Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) promoted: Pinch While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, Grenadier defeats (9.96/12): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 90.7%) Cannon promoted: Combat I While attacking in Roman territory at Lahore, Cannon loses to: English Cavalry (4.80/15) (Prob Victory: 25.1%) Rifleman promoted: City Garrison II While attacking in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (0.98/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 99.8%) Sparta finishes: Cannon Pisae finishes: Frigate
IBT: While defending in Roman territory at Antium, Grenadier loses to: English Cannon (9.72/12) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) Antium lost
Judaism has spread: Antium (English Empire) While defending in Roman territory at Antium, 1st Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) defeats (9.24/14): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 76.3%) While defending in Roman territory at Antium, 1st Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) defeats (1.26/14): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 27.6%) While defending in Roman territory at Antium, 1st Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) loses to: English Cavalry (15.00/15) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) While defending in English territory near Estruscan, Cannon loses to: English Redcoat (0.14/14) (Prob Victory: 34.1%) While defending in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cannon loses to: English Redcoat (0.70/14) (Prob Victory: 34.1%)
Turn 374 (1709 AD) Sparta begins: Cannon Pisae begins: Rifleman Cumae begins: Rifleman Corinth begins: Rifleman 1st Frigate of Pisae (Frigate) promoted: Combat I While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cannon loses to: Indian Rifleman (1.40/14) (Prob Victory: 28.8%) While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cannon defeats (1.92/12): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 34.3%) While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, Grenadier defeats (4.56/12): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 93.5%) While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, 1st Cavalry of New Athens (Cavalry) defeats (12.60/15): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, Grenadier defeats (10.44/12): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cavalry defeats (7.80/15): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Captured Bangalore (Asoka) Razed Bangalore
Bangalore lost
1st Cannon of Sparta (Cannon) promoted: Combat I Cumae finishes: Rifleman New Athens grows: 13
IBT: While defending in the wild near Baghdad, 1st Cavalry of New Athens (Cavalry) defeats (10.05/15): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 58.6%) While defending in the wild near Bombay, 1st Cavalry of New Athens (Cavalry) loses to: Indian Cavalry (12.30/15) (Prob Victory: 10.0%)
Izzy also dialed me up:
I said no thanks, lady.
Turn 375 (1712 AD) 2nd Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) promoted: City Garrison I 2nd Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) promoted: City Garrison II Cannon promoted: City Raider III While attacking in Roman territory near Corinth, Grenadier loses to: English Redcoat (7.56/14) (Prob Victory: 88.2%) While attacking in Roman territory near Corinth, Grenadier defeats (8.16/12): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 88.2%) While attacking in Roman territory near Corinth, Rifleman defeats (9.52/14): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 99.2%) Cumae begins: Rifleman Rome finishes: Rifleman Enrico Dandolo (Merchant) (Great Merchant) born in Rome Cumae finishes: Rifleman New Athens finishes: Cannon Pisae's borders expand Kolhapur finishes: Courthouse Lahore finishes: Rifleman
IBT:
Aha! I see why we've didn't get a prophet ~ someone was asking for a pHophet!
What the f- is a fofet?
While defending in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (12.46/14): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While defending in Roman territory near Kolhapur, Trireme loses to: English Destroyer (27.90/30) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) While defending in Roman territory at Kolhapur, Caravel loses to: English Destroyer (30.00/30) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) While defending in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (10.64/14): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 98.3%) While defending in Roman territory near Corinth, Cavalry defeats (4.05/15): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 4.0%) While defending in Roman territory near Corinth, Grenadier loses to: Indian Cavalry (10.05/15) (Prob Victory: 7.1%) While defending in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (4.34/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 89.0%) While defending in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (9.24/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 77.7%) While defending in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (3.08/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 89.8%)
Turn 376 (1715 AD) Rome begins: Rifleman New Athens begins: Rifleman Kolhapur begins: Harbor ALSO: we're getting attacked from behind n ow too as we reutrn. there are 3 fronts: lahore, ALSO: Cortinth, and Cumae since they took Antium. i hope to neutralize the english armies in ou rmidst, and then re-take Antium! While attacking in Roman territory near Antium, Cavalry defeats (9.00/15): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 50.0%) 1st Rifleman of Rome (Rifleman) promoted: City Garrison I While attacking in Roman territory at Cumae, Cavalry loses to: English Redcoat (1.68/14) (Prob Victory: 76.5%) While attacking in Roman territory at Cumae, Cavalry defeats (13.05/15): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Charlemagne (Great General) born in Sparta
I eventually attached him to our CR III Grennie for now ~ why not, right?
While attacking in Roman territory at Cumae, Cavalry defeats (4.20/15): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 71.9%) 3rd Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) promoted: City Garrison I 3rd Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) promoted: City Garrison II While attacking in Roman territory near Antium, Grenadier defeats (6.48/12): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 74.9%) Rifleman promoted: Pinch 1st Cannon of New Athens (Cannon) promoted: Drill I Cumae finishes: Cannon Seoul finishes: Galleon
IBT: While defending in Roman territory near Corinth, Rifleman defeats (1.12/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 19.3%)
Turn 377 (1718 AD) Cumae begins: Cavalry Seoul begins: Forum 1st Galleon of Seoul (Galleon) promoted: Combat I 1st Cannon of Cumae (Cannon) promoted: Drill I 1st Cannon of Cumae (Cannon) promoted: Combat I Cavalry promoted: Combat III Corinth grows: 8
IBT: While defending in Roman territory at Neapolis, Caravel loses to: English Destroyer (28.80/30) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) While defending in Roman territory at Antium, Cavalry defeats (4.95/15): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 56.6%) While defending in Roman territory at Antium, Cavalry defeats (1.80/15): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 56.6%)
IBT: While defending in Roman territory near Rome, Caravel loses to: English Destroyer (28.80/30) (Prob Victory: 0.0%)
Turn 379 (1724 AD) Cumae begins: Cavalry Sparta begins: University Ravenna begins: Library 1st Cavalry of Cumae (Cavalry) promoted: Combat I 1st Cavalry of Cumae (Cavalry) promoted: Medic I
Tech learned: Democracy
Lahore finishes: Barracks
IBT: While defending in Roman territory at Antium, Rifleman defeats (9.52/14): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 90.3%)
Turn 380 (1727 AD) Research begun: Assembly Line Lahore begins: Forum New Athens begins: Grenadier While attacking in Roman territory at Antium, 1st Cannon of Cumae (Cannon) defeats (9.24/12): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 46.9%) While attacking in English territory at Antium, Cannon loses to: English Cannon (7.20/12) (Prob Victory: 68.1%) While attacking in Roman territory at Antium, 1st Cannon of Sparta (Cannon) defeats (12.00/12): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 68.1%) While attacking in Roman territory at Antium, Cavalry defeats (12.60/15): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.6%) While attacking in Roman territory at Antium, Cavalry defeats (10.20/15): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 98.9%)
Antium's borders expand Judaism has spread: Antium Captured Antium (Victoria)
Turn 381 (1730 AD) Rome begins: Cavalry Neapolis begins: Forum 1st Cannon of Neapolis (Cannon) promoted: Barrage I 1st Grenadier of New Athens (Grenadier) promoted: Combat I While attacking in Roman territory at New Athens, 1st Grenadier of New Athens (Grenadier) defeats (12.00/12): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 67.4%) While attacking in Roman territory near Antium, Grenadier loses to: English Redcoat (2.80/14) (Prob Victory: 66.6%) 2nd Rifleman of Rome (Rifleman) promoted: City Garrison I Cavalry promoted: Combat II 1st Cannon of Sparta (Cannon) promoted: City Raider I While attacking in Roman territory near Antium, Cavalry defeats (10.80/15): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Okay ... you claimed it back ... suspended your woodshed trip for the time-being.
I see you have some pretty amazing luck, eh?
While defending in Roman territory near Estruscan, Cannon defeats (1.92/12): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 28.5%
While defending in Indian territory at Bangalore, Cavalry defeats (3.00/15): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 4.4%)
While defending in Roman territory at Antium, 1st Rifleman of Cumae (Rifleman) defeats (1.26/14): English Cannon (Prob Victory: 27.6%)
While defending in Roman territory near Corinth, Cavalry defeats (4.05/15): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 4.0%)
While defending in Roman territory near Corinth, Rifleman defeats (1.12/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 19.3%)
It's amazing you miss a week (almost went nuts without my internet and my usual alternate place for internet is on holidays you know Christmas and all) and one game is over, and at the beginning of the week some SG's were fighting with maces and now with cavalry.
I see that we continue to war and the battle must go on. Please add me to the roster and apoligize for my absence. It wasn't supposed to take that long but they had trouble pinpointing the problem.
First off ... who said Lahore was devoid of enemy???
Well it is, but that's after I killed it!!!
Then, a tour of the lonely empire reveals another smoke by pholky:
During my tour od the empire, I have also whipped mecilessly at any city with redshirts or starving. Finally, I gave in to the unhappiness issue and started building colosseum and diverting 10% fund to culture.
One more thing I couldn't understand is why have we not moved against the 2 eastern cities north of Rome? Anyway, I did.
wooo... sweet ... all those vessels to be sank ...
We should be allowed to keep those vessels, you know, as loot from war. Imagine Iraq captured one of those American tanks. You think they will burn it??? Of-course not! The least they will do is load it with explosive and get a Jihad fanatic to drive it back to the allies' camp!
Anyway, I was happy to leave it at that and pass the save to the next player at the end of my 10 turns until this happens right at the end of my turnset.
I was anticipating a landing throughout my turnset and was relieved to see no enemy transport and then, booooom, they landed at my last turn. Now, I couldn't possibly leave it at that and pass the game to the next player with a stack looming there, can I?
So, I played on, and decimated that stack. Wasted quite a few cannons. While I am at it, I might as well make Asoka pay for that. So ...
Much better. See the stack of HC up there? Well, apparently he has been hiding there for quite some time (just like the Russian stack near Rome). That damned bastard ... he waited for us to caoture the Indian city, and then, poof!
But since our two newest additions each had some religions in them, the new HC city would be a lot of culture pressure. Serve him right.
Now in the process of moving some cannons west, but don't neglect defenses in the east, because there would bound to be more landings.
Finally, we learn Assembly Line, and a few cities building Rifleman become Infantries.
Turn 380 (1730 AD) GreyFox: Whipped Pyongyang GreyFox: Whipped Seoul GreyFox: whipped Antium GreyFox: whipped Sparta While attacking in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (6.86/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 76.7%) GreyFox: Upped wheat to Hatty from 12 -> 13 gpt GreyFox: upped corn to sally from 5 -> 7gpt GreyFox: upped horse for spices trade with Cathy to horse for spices + 6gpt GreyFox: we are in decentralislim? Why? But this is no time for civic change revolt Antium finishes: Library New Athens finishes: Rifleman Sparta finishes: Cannon Seoul finishes: Forum P'yongyang finishes: Worker Pisae finishes: Rifleman
IBT:
Turn 381 (1732 AD) Antium begins: Cannon New Athens begins: Cannon Seoul begins: Grocer P'yongyang begins: Jewish Temple Pisae begins: Cannon While attacking in Roman territory near Sparta, Rifleman loses to: English Cavalry (6.00/15) (Prob Victory: 66.9%) While attacking in Roman territory at Lahore, Grenadier defeats (12.00/12): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 99.1%) Sparta begins: Cannon GreyFox: Whipped Neopolis Cumae grows: 11 Neapolis finishes: Forum
IBT:
Turn 382 (1734 AD) Neapolis begins: Cannon While attacking in Roman territory at Corinth, Rifleman defeats (8.40/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 33.6%) Cavalry promoted: Pinch GreyFox: whipped Antium GreyFox: whipped Pyongyang Antium finishes: Cannon Cumae finishes: Cavalry P'yongyang finishes: Jewish Temple
Turn 385 (1740 AD) Kolhapur begins: Barracks 1st Grenadier of New Athens (Grenadier) promoted: Pinch While attacking in Roman territory near Corinth, 1st Grenadier of New Athens (Grenadier) defeats (8.16/12): English Redcoat (Prob Victory: 88.2%) While attacking in English territory at Estruscan, 1st Cannon of Sparta (Cannon) loses to: English Machine Gun (6.30/18) (Prob Victory: 20.7%) While attacking in English territory at Estruscan, Cavalry defeats (12.45/15): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 88.3%) While attacking in English territory at Estruscan, Cavalry defeats (12.30/15): English Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 99.3%) Hinduism has spread: Estruscan Taoism has spread: Estruscan Captured Estruscan (Victoria) Estruscan begins: Theatre Rome finishes: Cavalry Cumae finishes: Cavalry New Athens finishes: Cannon Kolhapur grows: 7
Turn 387 (1744 AD) While attacking in Roman territory near Punjab, 1st Rifleman of Lahore (Rifleman) loses to: English Cavalry (12.15/15) (Prob Victory: 36.7%) While attacking in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (14.00/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 89.3%) Seoul's borders expand Ravenna grows: 4
Turn 390 (1750 AD) Neapolis begins: Cannon Pisae begins: Cannon While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Cannon loses to: Indian Cavalry (12.60/15) (Prob Victory: 9.9%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Cannon loses to: Indian Cavalry (4.20/15) (Prob Victory: 20.3%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Cannon defeats (6.72/12): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 42.2%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Cannon loses to: Indian Cannon (7.20/12) (Prob Victory: 50.0%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (11.48/14): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 71.5%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (6.44/14): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 71.5%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (6.44/14): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 71.5%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Cannon defeats (7.20/12): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 50.0%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Grenadier loses to: Indian Cannon (2.40/12) (Prob Victory: 50.0%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Cavalry defeats (9.15/15): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.5%) Kolhapur finishes: Barracks
IBT: While defending in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (14.00/14): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.2%) While defending in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (14.00/14): Indian Cannon (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Turn 391 (1752 AD) Kolhapur begins: Rifleman While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Grenadier defeats (11.52/12): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (14.00/14): Indian Grenadier (Prob Victory: 99.4%) Rifleman promoted: City Garrison I While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, Rifleman defeats (7.42/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 99.1%) Rifleman promoted: City Garrison I While attacking in Roman territory at Estruscan, 1st Cannon of New Athens (Cannon) defeats (11.88/12): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 96.3%) Cannon promoted: City Raider I Cannon promoted: City Raider I Rifleman promoted: City Garrison I While attacking in Indian territory at Chittagong, Cannon loses to: Indian Machine Gun (9.36/18) (Prob Victory: 8.5%) While attacking in Indian territory at Chittagong, Cavalry defeats (6.90/15): Indian Rifleman (Prob Victory: 74.1%) While attacking in Indian territory at Chittagong, Cavalry defeats (4.20/15): Indian Machine Gun (Prob Victory: 94.9%) Hinduism has spread: Chittagong Captured Chittagong (Asoka) Chittagong begins: Theatre Cumae grows: 12 Cumae finishes: Cannon New Athens finishes: Cannon
IBT:
Turn 392 (1754 AD) Cumae begins: Rifleman New Athens begins: Colosseum While attacking in Roman territory at Lahore, Rifleman defeats (0.70/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 66.9%) Grenadier promoted: City Garrison I Rifleman promoted: Combat I While attacking in Roman territory near Punjab, Rifleman loses to: Indian Cavalry (8.70/15) (Prob Victory: 71.9%) While attacking in Roman territory near Punjab, Rifleman defeats (11.76/14): Indian Cavalry (Prob Victory: 99.2%) Sparta finishes: Colosseum
IBT:
Turn 393 (1756 AD) Sparta begins: Rifleman Rifleman promoted: Formation While attacking in Roman territory near Punjab, Rifleman defeats (8.40/14): English Cavalry (Prob Victory: 81.8%) Cannon promoted: City Raider I Cavalry promoted: Combat I Cavalry promoted: Pinch Cavalry promoted: Combat I Cavalry promoted: Combat II Tech learned: Assembly Line Ravenna grows: 5 Ravenna finishes: Library
IBT:
Turn 394 (1758 AD) Research begun: Railroad Ravenna begins: Worker New Athens finishes: Colosseum Estruscan's borders expand
IBT: Judaism has spread: Wonsan (Russian Empire) Confucianism has spread: Wonsan (Russian Empire)
We should be allowed to keep those vessels, you know, as loot from war. Imagine Iraq captured one of those American tanks. You think they will burn it??? Of-course not! The least they will do is load it with explosive and get a Jihad fanatic to drive it back to the allies' camp!
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Indian Destroyer???
) would comntinue to this game ... 
's into this, so to speak?
????
; only autolog = 
