Philosophical Utopia

[heroes182]

Utopia Civ v 1.2

The Utopian Empire: A civ based on and ruled by the ideals of Enlightenment philosophers such as Voltaire and (civ veteran) Adam Smith.



Leader 1: Voltaire, Creative/Philosophical, favourite civic: Free Speech



Leader 2: Adam Smith, Financial/Philosophical, favourite civic: Free Market



Leader 3: Blaise Pascal, Spiritual/Philosophical, favourite civic: Pacifism



Leader 4: John Locke, Organized/Philosophical, favourite civic: Universal Suffrage



Leader 5: Thomas Hobbes, Aggressive/Philosophical, favourite civic: Representation



Enlightenment Philosopher unit,
PreReqs: Philosophy
May only be built in cities with libraries
National Unit: Only 4 allowed at one time
Appearance: Redcoat reskin, removed rifle
Enlightenment Philosophers are the Utopian UU, and are twice as efficient as regular philosophers, exploding for 50 culture.



Philosopher unit,
PreReqs: Philosophy
May only be built in cities with Libraries
National Unit: Only 4 allowed at one time
Appearance: Great Artist reskin, removed skull and feathers
Philosophers are "mini culture bombs" who explode for 25 culture. Great for colonising new continents or quelling rebellions!
*Note, these guys are universal units available to all civs. I felt that giving Utopia a UU that does something no-one else can would be a bit unfair, so I gave everyone a base unit that the UU would be an improvement upon.



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A few things:

* If anyone has seen a better picture of Adam Smith, PLEASE show me!!!

* Is it possible to assign pre-existing animations to new actions for units? The reason I ask this is that the Enlightenment Philosophers are Redcoat reskins, and as such, have no animation for Great Work missions. The result is that they just stand there for a few seconds and then disappear. Kinda anticlimatic.

Some things I considered changing:
-Making philosophers available at Philosophy and Enlightenment Philosophers available at Liberalism. Unfortunately, instead of Utopia being allowed to build Philosophers between Philosophy and Liberalism, they simply can't build anything until Liberalism. Anyone know of a way to fix this without giving Utopia an extra UU that obsoletes the previous one?

-Making both units available at Liberalism instead of Philosophy. or is that so late in the game that 20 point bombs would be useless?

-Leaving Philosophy as the prereq, but changing the building requirement to University instead. This would make them appear a bit later, but not as late as Liberalism.

-An aesthetic change I considered was to use ancient and rennaisance models for both units. The male settler model could easily become a Greek-y philosopher, and the current models would turn up a bit later in the game. However, as far as I can tell, the only ArtDef switch only kicks in until the modern era, which is waaay too late. Does anyone know if there is some sort of in between ArtDef switch?

I hope you enjoy this Civ, let me know if you have any good suggestions or ideas!

Get Ye File ------>http://www.Zophiel.com/stuff/Utopia.zip

Have fun

-Tavo


edit: changes from v1.1:
*Added 1 leader (Thomas Hobbes)
*Removed Thomas Hobbes from unique name list for Enlightenment Philosopher unit

edit: changes from v1.0:
*Added 2 leaders (John Locke and Blaise Pascal)
*Removed John Locke and Blaise Pascal from unique name list for Enlightenment Philosopher unit

 

[Wyz_sub10]

This is a really cool and original idea!

My first thought, though, was why not have Plato as a leader?

 

[tombeef]

with just about every known civilization represented with mods, its nice to see something creative. What about somebody like Ralph Waldo Emerson though?

The answer to life, the universe, and everything, will always be 42.

 

[heroes182]

Thanks for the comments!

Plato was one of my biggest candidates for leader, but I eventually turned him down for two reasons;

First, I decided to make more of the Enlightenment theme, and for that, I'd have to stick with people who were alive during the Enlightenment, instead of merely inspiring every philosopher before during and after it

The other reason was a bit more practical, and it's that I don't really know what traits to give him. I decided early on that all the Utopia leaders would be Philosophical, but what other trait would Plato have? Voltaire's creativity was a no-brainer, as was Smith's financial (besides, I couldnt resist bringing Adam Smith back into civ!). Plato does have a minor role though; the Philosophers have a UniqueName list, and he shows up fairly early on

Another leader I might add at some point would be Newton (Philo/Sci). I know he's mainly a scientist, but he was such an influential figure during the Enlightenment, and some of his writings verge on the philosophical (especially the quasi-alchemical stuff about affinities and whatnot).

 

[Los Tirano]

Looking forward to playing as the philosophers, and taking the enemies lands with my gripping speeches! The civ may run into a problem in multiplayer though with no offensive unique unit. Could be trampled quite early, despite their great culture and enlightenment.

 

[Rabbit_Alex]

John Locke, Rousseau and Thomas Hobbes would be good leaders for this too.

 

[impervius]

does it add the civ or replace old ones?

 

[heroes182]

impervius: the mod adds a new civ, all the vanilla ones remain intact (except they can now build Philosophers of course).

Rabbit Alex: Speak of the devil, those three (and many more!) are all unique names for the new units
I might make a few more leaders for the civ, but at the moment I want to stick with the standard 2.

 

[troilus]

Plato could easily be philosophical and *organized*. Man, I don't think that guy had a random, unintegrated thought ever!

Besides, he didn't like poets.

 

[heroes182]

Since most of the replies in this thread are ideas for other leaders, I decided to go right ahead and ignore the 2 leader standard.

Introducing the Utopia Civ v.1.1!
Now with 100% more Philosophical leaders for your enjoyment!
Try our all new flavours: Ludicrously Locke (so Organized it hurts!) and Positively Pascal (Spiritual-a-mundo!)!

I actually wanted to make a leader for every Philosophical + [OtherTrait] combination, but am finding it really hard to come up with Aggressive or Expansive philosophers... Industrious is a bit problematic too.
If anyone's got any ideas for those traits, I'd be happy to hear them!

Hope you enjoy the new version

-Tavo

 

[Robo Magic Man]

Great job. Very original, and you managed to edit unit models! Did you use a hex editor or a bender-type program?

 

[heroes182]

Thanks for the comments!

Hex editor? naaaah, nothing as clever as that!
All I did was Alpha Channel away the rifle for the Redcoat, and the silly hat feathers for the Great Artist. The skull was also Alpha'd away, and as luck would have it, it is not considered part of the Great Artist's body! I was afraid I'd get a GA holding a bright blue blob for a second, but it was all good in the end.

btw, if anyone knows how to remove the glow from the GA model, can you post it please?

 

[Gatsby]

This looks promising, but when I downloaded it and tried to open it, a message came up saying it couldn't be opened because it was a damaged or corrupted file .

 

[heroes182]

corrupted? that's odd... I just tried downloading it, and it works just fine...
Try downloading it again, maybe my website fell offline before you finished loading it or something.

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

[bdog1001]

I actually wanted to make a leader for every Philosophical + [OtherTrait] combination, but am finding it really hard to come up with Aggressive or Expansive philosophers... Industrious is a bit problematic too.
If anyone's got any ideas for those traits, I'd be happy to hear them!

-Tavo

How about Jefferson for EXpansive one or is he too much of an america Presdent?

 

[coachlentz]

how can we have a civilization called utopia and not have todd rundgren as one of the leaders?


good job on this civ

 

[Corvex]

How come Thomas More isn't one of the leaders? He's the one who actually wrote Utopia.

 

[Archduke Otto]

Hmmm, I didn't follow this so far. Great work though.

Maybe Nietzsche would do as an aggressive leader?

 

[Perfect_Blue]

Hobbes has been mentioned, I think he'd do well for aggressive; after all, we're all at war with each other for those limited resources.

 

[scottin]

Since most of the replies in this thread are ideas for other leaders, I decided to go right ahead and ignore the 2 leader standard.

Introducing the Utopia Civ v.1.1!
Now with 100% more Philosophical leaders for your enjoyment!
Try our all new flavours: Ludicrously Locke (so Organized it hurts!) and Positively Pascal (Spiritual-a-mundo!)!

I actually wanted to make a leader for every Philosophical + [OtherTrait] combination, but am finding it really hard to come up with Aggressive or Expansive philosophers... Industrious is a bit problematic too.
If anyone's got any ideas for those traits, I'd be happy to hear them!

Hope you enjoy the new version

-Tavo

This sounds really cool. Keep up the good work.

As to Industrious/Philosophical, you may want to think of someone like Henry Ford. While not extremly Philosophical, he did do a lot of things which changed the philosophies of manufacturing.

Just a suggestion. Let the flames commence.



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