[Extension] [POLL] More Wonders for VP

[adan_eslavo]

I use ready database function: Building_ClassesNeededInCity. It has an exception built in, to check for the uniques, too. Please, check other similar wonders and unique buldings and make sure you can't build any wonder of that kind, and if the problem persists, post an issue on VP github, and link for that issue here in this thread for my information.

What is your mod load order? If MW loads before MUC, then it also may be the culprit, but I'm not 100% sure.

Here is the old topic: link. I have no time for checking that, now, so if you could investigate the issue, it would be awesome.

 

[adan_eslavo]

Added 3 new possible choices in the EE poll inspired by World Wonders Pack 256 by @Artisanix:

• Canal du Midi (France) (1681) tied to Navigation
• Fontanna di Trevi (Italy) (1776) tied to Economics
• Modlin Fortress (Poland) (1806) tied to EE-Fortifications

You can change your votes to choose new WWs!




Also, few more WWs are planned to be added later on in other eras:

• Sirigiya (Sri Lanka) (Currency) CLASSICAL ERA
• Aqueduct of Padre Tembleque (Mexico) (Metallurgy) RENAISSANCE ERA
• Three Gorges Dam (China) (Alternative Energy) INFORMATION ERA 1
• Global Positioning System (international) (The Internet) INFORMATION ERA 2

What do you think of them? I try to choose the most important and original ones.

 

[danymatrix]

brilliant. I vote to add everyone on the list and more ... hehe

 

[Bruhmoment]

Just how many wonders is too many wonders?

 

[adan_eslavo]

Depends on player.

I recently fixed WW blocking mechanic, so you can disable wonders you don't like or don't wanna see. I just give you variety.

I also increased the stacking cost of WW, if you have built some already, so next will be much more expensive than it was in base VP. This shoul lower the wonder spam significantly.

I just found two mods adding total of 384 wonders. Such an amount is tremendous and author didn't try to save the balance. I wanted to catch few of them (art is ready, but I avoided castles, religious buildings, etc.) and apply to MW.

 

[danymatrix]

ok. And how much do you plan to launch that new version or update friend?

 

[AndreyK]

After setting hard reqs and no restriction to eras I don't see any new wonders only base.

 

[adan_eslavo]

After setting hard reqs and no restriction to eras I don't see any new wonders only base.

Anyone can confirm that?

 

[adan_eslavo]

ok. And how much do you plan to launch that new version or update friend?

Depends on time I will put into the coding.

 

[adan_eslavo]

Another 4 candidates added to the plan:

• Thong Hai Hin (Laos) (1000 BC) Calendar ANCIENT ERA
• Muray (Peru) (≈1000) Education MEDIEVAL ERA
• Büyük Han (Cyprus) (1572) Guilds MEDIEVAL ERA
• Mileștii Mici (Moldova) (1969) Refrigeration ATOMIC ERA

 

[AndreyK]

Anyone can confirm that?

Sorry, the culprit was the More Beliefs mod, that I wanted to try. After changing load order seems OK to try and was not the requirements.

 

[AndreyK]

Well, if I install MWfVP all is fine, but after editing the requirements file seems mod is not loading

 

[adan_eslavo]

Well, if I install MWfVP all is fine, but after editing the requirements file seems mod is not loading

Maybe you get an error in database.log? What do you change?

 

[AndreyK]

I change "1" to "2" for hard in reqs

 

[adan_eslavo]

Can you post logs and screenshot of your change?

 

[adan_eslavo]

@gwennog You probably play on hard reqs. Everything fine?

 

[adan_eslavo]

Does anyone feel that particular wonder needs buff or nerf? Now it's good time to suggest such cases.

 

[gwennog]

@gwennog You probably play on hard reqs. Everything fine?

Yes, play actually with the last version in hard, with woman voice and Limitation Era, no problem.

Increasing the cost is a very good choice on your part, now you have to think more because you can't really build everything, even with the right locations.
Maybe a little too hard for the first ages but I wait a little longer before deciding.

 

[adan_eslavo]

Yes, play actually with the last version in hard, with woman voice and Limitation Era, no problem.

Increasing the cost is a very good choice on your part, now you have to think more because you can't really build everything, even with the right locations.
Maybe a little too hard for the first ages but I wait a little longer before deciding.

You know, I can change 50/35/20% modifiers to 40/35/30. For those players who have lots of Wonders from various eras it shouldn't be the any difference, but at the beginning it will be easier to build at least 2 early WWs. Now it punish the most players who built a Wonder from current Era.

I change "1" to "2" for hard in reqs

Did you resolve your problem? @gwennog says, and I also checked that, everything works fine, so it must be smth on your end.

 

[gwennog]

You know, I can change 50/35/20% modifiers to 40/35/30. For those players who have lots of Wonders from various eras it shouldn't be the any difference, but at the beginning it will be easier to build at least 2 early WWs. Now it punish the most players who built a Wonder from current Era.

It seems a good solution, not too much difference in advanced eras because most likely the player will have wonders of different eras but a little more possibility at the beginning .