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Poll, New Civs vs Alternate Leaders in First Expansion

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Guandao, Jun 27, 2017.

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Which would you like to see in the first expansion for Civ6?

  1. Entirely New Civs, with no alternate leaders for preexisting civs

    14.9%
  2. Majority New Civs, with a few alternate leaders

    66.0%
  3. Equal amount of New Civs and Alternate Leaders

    12.8%
  4. Majority Alternate Leaders, with a few New Civs

    6.4%
  5. Entirely Alternate Leaders for preexisting civs, with no New Civs

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    I'd like mostly new civs with some new leaders, but heaven forbid we continue to balkanize Greece. Three Greek leaders is two more than we need and three more than I care about.

    There are too many Native American cultures worth including to keep featuring the same ones every time, but if the Iroquois must return there is absolutely no reason to resort to legendary leaders when one could use someone like Thayendanegea (Joseph Brant).
     
  2. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    I'm glad you did not decide;)

    Unfortunately, neither do I, because otherwise there would be all the urgently needed and in human history so important other Greek Civs in game as well as a lot of second leaders for the main Civs:D
     
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  3. kaspergm

    kaspergm Warlord

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    Pretty much this. Also, the poll is hard to answer unless we make some assumptions about numbers. For instance, if we assume numbers are the same - i.e. either 8 new civs, 4 new civs + 4 new leaders, or 8 new leaders - obviously, I'd go with only new civs. However, that assumption does not seem reasonable because after all, making new leaders for existing civs is less work. So the question is, really, what is the conversion rate. If rate is less than 1 new civs equals 2 alternative leaders, I'll put all my ballots in the new civ basket. But if we're talking, say, 8 new civs vs. 6 new civs and 6 alt leaders, I'd favor the latter.
     
  4. conorbebe

    conorbebe Chieftain

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    Like others here, I'd rather see new civilisations than alternative leaders. I hope Civ VI doesn't end up having less official civs than Civ V as a result.

    However, I find myself wanting alternative leaders when France is stuck with Catherine.
     
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  5. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Yeah, for a few vanilla Civs, a second leader is in high demand. For example, India, Egypt, and France. I can see Firaxis giving them an alternate leader.
     
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  6. SMcM

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    :nono:

    I think adding Catherine the great as an alt for Russia would be nice. I'd like to see France get an alt leader also. Besides that I think the expansion should mostly add new civs.
     
  7. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    I just dread that we're going to get stuck with Napoleon. Again. :(
     
  8. Leyrann

    Leyrann Warlord

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    @SMcM Considering it's kinda on-topic anyways, regarding your signature, who is Frederick Henry? I'm Dutch myself, but that name doesn't ring a bell at all.

    EDIT: Nevermind, I see he was the half-brother of Maurits. Still, I'd argue that William the Silent, Maurits, Johann van Oldebarneveldt, and king William I would all be better leaders.
     
  9. DudewiththeFood

    DudewiththeFood Chieftain

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    France already has the Garde Imperiale and I could be wrong but I think that's enough of a nod to Napoleon to justify his exclusion this time.
     
  10. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    I hope you're right. I'm aware he was a brilliant ruler, but he's represented France enough times. I'd rather see Louis XIV or Francis I or even Louis IX.
     
  11. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    That is an interesting point. You can be right:undecide: but also not all leaders need a UU.
     
  12. SMcM

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    I'll change that then. I just went with him because he is someone different. Thing is, ideally I would want someone tied to the Dutch Golden Age, but the only person I could find was Johan de Witt, who was ultimately not a very successful leader from the sounds of things. If you have any better ideas for Dutch leaders connected to the Dutch Golden Age I would be interested to hear.

    In terms of notable figures I'm aware of, obviously there is Michiel de Ruyter, but he's not exactly leader material is he (and I presume he is already a great admiral, can't remember though). Then there's colonists like Peter Stuyvesant, but they wouldn't really make sense as leaders for the Netherlands either in my view. I don't know anything about Cornelis de Graeff- would he be a viable leader?




     
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  13. Vahnstad

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    8/7 new civs - 2/3 alternates - 3 expansions at least (new world, old world, diplomacy overhaul).
     

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