If that leak is true I'd actually be quite disappointed. I was really hoping we could avoid a repeat of the "Celtic blob", and if they are going to add an African nation this expansion, the Zulu would have been about last on my list.
"they can take our lives but they can never take our freedom" is a famous quote from braveheart. Maybe William Wallace as leader for the celts/scottish?
I would be really excited to see the celts. They have been my favourite civ in Civ 3 and i have waited for their return.
(ETA: take this with a pinch of salt but if my interpretation of Google's mangling of the post is correct, this person is writing the Chinese version of the leader Civilopedia entries, or claiming so anyway)
Google Translated what I think might be the right bit of the page:
Ha ha ha, long time no more, just finished encyclopedic leader text on Friday (in fact, still very poked), my buddy is very motivated ah sometimes replies in the middle of the night
I will slowly read one by one reply, I do not know everyone on the new Civilization Kerry still satisfied? (Anyway, I do not) Because the strong only one of them, just card. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha shiver in front of the power of the Zulu spear it! But personal favorite or - brave heart.
Dragon Phoenix : Reply binarizer : In other words, since Zulu and Celtic. If Celtic is a brave heart. One of the two remaining civilizations and the female leader of the Golden Age.
Don't get me wrong, I love Celtic history and culture and I'd really love to see a Celtic Civ. They do mention Celts by name (according to Google Translate anyway). I'd be a lot happier if it were just Scotland as a Civ - I would actually love to see that. The mention of Braveheart gives me a small grain of hope. But I think going off this it sounds more like a generic Celtic Civ with Wallace as leader.
Well, there's merit to getting the Zulus out of the way. There was never any avoiding them, so we might as well get them out of the way now so they don't need to clog up speculation later. And it means we're at least getting an African civ this expansion.
Can't pretend to be excited about the Celts though. I know they're one of the staple expansion civs but lord almighty they're my least favorite one. I'd take pretty much any European civ over them, which at this point includes what are apparently its constituents (i.e. Scotland, Ireland, etc.)
Hoping that doesn't come to pass, but I don't want it to be true so it probably is. That's my litmus test and it's usually right for these things.
This also raises the question: if we are getting Zulu and the Celts, and out of the last two we are also getting one female leader who plays with the Golden Ages concept, then we may very well not get the Ottomans and/or the Inca as well in R&F, since neither has a good candidate (unless my knowledge of Inca leaders is terrible, which it probably is).
This also raises the question: if we are getting Zulu and the Celts, and out of the last two we are also getting one female leader who plays with the Golden Ages concept, then we may very well not get the Ottomans and/or the Inca as well in R&F, since neither has a good candidate (unless my knowledge of Inca leaders is terrible, which it probably is).
I love having a long roster of civs to choose from so I am all for DLCs. The more representation of different cultures and geographies, the better.
I don't spend money on any games but Civ so DLCs are an instant buy for me. Hopefully the target audiences beyond fanatics, however, would feel the same
This also raises the question: if we are getting Zulu and the Celts, and out of the last two we are also getting one female leader who plays with the Golden Ages concept, then we may very well not get the Ottomans and/or the Inca as well in R&F, since neither has a good candidate (unless my knowledge of Inca leaders is terrible, which it probably is).
I really hope at this point that we are getting post-EXP1 DLC unless they are saving Inca, Ottomans, Maya, Byzantium, Portugal and Carthage* for the next expansion pack (Along with Sweden, Austria, Venice/Italy, Morocco, Sahal* and Ethiopia)
Well, there's merit to getting the Zulus out of the way. There was never any avoiding them, so we might as well get them out of the way now so they don't need to clog up speculation later.
I don't see how there's no way in which we don't get Zulu? Just because they were in every game before this one does not mean they have to appear again. In fact I would argue it's a good reason for them not to - we've already seen them enough, have them make some room for other African civilizations.
Well if the leak for Zulu and Celts is not fake , then it means from the last 2 Civ one is deffinetly from South America , and last is a bit trickier to guess but it wont be from Asia, or Africa and prob not from NA , and with Celts prob no more EU civs tho about EU you never know, I would guess if they need female that Mayan leader is a possibility.
I don't know, I can't trust this leak, every civ in the expansion is related someway to the new mechanics and I can't see how the Zulus and the Celts could have bonuses in that regard
Zulu and Celts, hmm? That really throws my Carthage, Ottomans, Inca, Italy/Georgia/Aram prediction - I suppose Celts (who, honestly, I really liked their religion + culture play style last time around) could take that last spot and Zulu take either Carthage or Ottomans' spot. They could definitely get that special encampment district.
I really don't know which would get knocked off, we haven't seen Carthage in any of the videos - but on the matter of post expansion DLC. I could definitely see another round of DLC civs / leaders / scenarios coming with a separate Carthage and Ottoman / Byzantium release. I seriously doubt Inca aren't coming this expansion, but I figured Ottomans were definitely in too. This really throws me, but at the same time I'm still very excited to see both civ.
I think this time around the Celts (if this is true) well be represented in a non-glob way beyond their name and I can't wait to hear the Zulu BGM.
Im leaning more on DLC double release for Byzantium + Ottomans with scenario pack like few suggested here, both popular civs , so it would sell like hot cakes.
Celts and Zulu seem like odd choices to me, given the focus of this XP. I wouldn't care too much but personally hoping the leak is not true this time, especially as it makes Georgia/Italy less likely, and I'd like to see one of them included.
If this leak is true then I would suspect that we could receive the Inca and Georgia. This is because native South America is unrepresented and the Inca are a staple, and the "Female leader with links to the ages system" I feel is pointing towards Tamar of Georgia; despite me not knowing who she was until of the consistent hype on this forum for her leading to a bit of my own Wiki reading.
EDIT: With the Celts representing an ancient/classical Europe it will fit Firaxis' quota of "is this area of the world represented, and is this period of time represented?"
However, if the Celts are in. Boudicca could be at play again - and she has just as much chance of being that mysterious female leader as Tamar, Zenobia, or Dido.
Since there are only four leaders left to be revealed, it can really be any female leader of any remaining possible civ. We can expect male leaders from the Inca, Zulu (if they're in), and Ottomans. It's really only the Celts, Carthage, Georgia, and Aram that could still be at play with a female leader. I will say that the Celts and Zulu are definitely curveballs to me, even though we expected them at some point - I figured it'd come much later.
If William Wallace is leading the Celts, that would be an even bigger bungling of the Celts conglomerate Civ than usual. Yeesh. I hope it is actually Scotland.
However, if the Celts are in. Boudicca could be at play again - and she has just as much chance of being that mysterious female leader as Tamar, Zenobia, or Dido.
Since there are only four leaders left to be revealed, it can really be any female leader of any remaining possible civ. We can expect male leaders from the Inca, Zulu (if they're in), and Ottomans. It's really only the Celts, Carthage, Georgia, and Aram that could still be at play with a female leader. I will say that the Celts and Zulu are definitely curveballs to me, even though we expected them at some point - I figured it'd come much later.
That's a good point then. I thought it was just the "they can never take our freedom" line being used, not explicitly having Wallace lead. But if Boudica was spotted as a GG, then yeah - there's no argument from me on that. If the leaks is real then that cuts our unknown civ to two, having Celts (Scotland?) and Zulu both with male leaders.
Geez, since I really didn't foresee these two being in this expansion - I have no idea who the other two would be. One has to have that mysterious female leader. So Georgia, Aram, Carthage has to be in, yes? I'd think one of them would have to be Inca or Ottomans then, and we still haven't had an explicit culture / wonder building civ yet.
I'd still like to see a Gothic/Ostrogoth civ at some point, that'd be cool.
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