Poor dog mauls boy, please don't kill it :(

[Kyriakos]

http://news.yahoo.com/campaign-save-dog-arizona-mauling-204712494.html

PHOENIX (AP) — A dog that mauled a 4-year-old Phoenix boy has received thousands of pleas for mercy through a Facebook campaign ahead of a court hearing to decide his fate.

A municipal court judge could rule at a March 25 hearing on whether Mickey, a pit bull that bit Kevin Vicente in the face, should be euthanized. Kevin received injuries that will require, according to doctors, months and possibly years of reconstructive surgeries.

Since the Feb. 20 attack, Mickey has become the object of a Facebook page that has gotten more than 40,000 likes and an online petition to spare his life.

Supporters say the campaign doesn't mean they value the dog's life above the child's.

"This is not Kevin versus Mickey," said attorney John Schill, who is representing the dog in the court petition. "Having Mickey killed is not going to take away Kevin's pain or injuries. The only thing this is going to do is kill a poor, innocent dog."

Villa said she can't understand the Facebook attention and doesn't see Mickey as a victim.

Kevin was hospitalized at Maricopa Medical Center with a broken eye socket, cheek bone and lower jaw bone, according to doctors.

Dr. Salvatore Lettieri, a Mayo Clinic physician and chief of cosmetic surgery at Maricopa Medical Center, said he was able to fix the broken bones and reattach the muscles that allow Kevin to open and close his eye.

"He still can't open his eye. We'll need to fix the tear duct drainage system — that is if he makes tears," Lettieri said.

What the hell?

Who on earth is so out of touch that even tries to campaign for sparing this dog's life?

Really disgusted by this story. The dog is a dumb beast, sure, but it ruined that boy's eye. Even if one only thinks of the boy they should stop trying to save the dog.

ps: that lawyer to save the dog has a very appropriate surname.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Arizona
The dog will be put down, unless the owners are rich.

 

[Agent327]

ps: that lawyer to save the dog has a very appropriate surname.

Does he now.

Dog should have use a gun on the boy, he'd be perfectly safe then.

 

[Synobun]

The whole "kill whomever that doesn't comply 100% of the time" philosophy seems very bronze age to me. Unless you can prove that mauling people is in the dog's natural behaviour, I don't really see the logic behind euthanizing it.

 

[Borachio]

And when the dog does it again? Possibly killing a baby. What will you say then?

It is, of course, not the dog's fault. But the owner's. Yet the question remains what to do with the dog.

 

[Synobun]

And when the dog does it again? Possibly killing a baby. What will you say then?

It is, of course, not the dog's fault. But the owner's. Yet the question remains what to do with the dog.

You said when, not if. I'm not sure there's much to discuss when you see it in such a black and white manner.

 

[Borachio]

Well, you've got a point.

But, from what I know of dogs, a repeat performance is highly likely. Which is why they tend to get themselves put down.

And any sane health and safety risk assessment would tend to the policy of ensuring it doesn't happen again.

Dog's life versus baby's face? Which weighs heavier in the balance?

 

[Yeekim]

The whole "kill whomever that doesn't comply 100% of the time" philosophy seems very bronze age to me. Unless you can prove that mauling people is in the dog's natural behaviour, I don't really see the logic behind euthanizing it.

If it mauled a child once, it is liable to do so again.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well, you've got a point.

But, from what I know of dogs, a repeat performance is highly likely. Which is why they tend to get themselves put down.

And any sane health and safety risk assessment would tend to the policy of ensuring it doesn't happen again.

Dog's life versus baby's face? Which weighs heavier in the balance?

+1 (and others)

But maybe we should just give the dog a sentence of prison time. That would surely teach it.
It is a dog that probably cost a human being one of its most vital organs (an eye). But i get it will live in remorse. Maybe it will read the brothers Karamazov while in a cell. Or rather "Heart of a dog".

 

[CreamofJustice]

I'm wondering if the dog has shown aggressive tendencies before.

My mum, who works in mail delivery, was bitten by a dog just last year, not even close to the extent of this boy. All she really needed was a few stitches. But the company she works for had the courts force the family to put it down. My mum wasn't too happy about it but she knew that it might do something again, maybe worse.

I dunno, thats just my (well, not mine, but close enough) personal experiences on this topic.

 

[Quackers]

This type of reaction genuinely disgusts me.
People show more compassion for animals than humans. I honestly don't get that.

I remember reading a story a few years ago. Some kind of wild animal, possibly a big cat had killed a human. The animal was than put down. A few days later a whole campaign had been setup to accept donations in order to look after the offspring of the wild animal. They raised thousands of dollars.

Meanwhile the human victims are forgotten.

 

[H4run]

You cannot blame the owner also, the owner doesn't have a full control over the dog behaviour, in order for you to be able blamed the owner you must go down to the legal ownership of the dog itself. For example let's said, if owning a dangerous dogs like pitbull or doberman is illegal, or walk them around the street is illegal then you can blame the owner for doing so.

But if owning the "dangerous" dogs is legal also to walk them around, then if the dogs run out of control and attack other peoples out of the owner control and ability it is not the fault of the owner but the fault of the dog.

The only way to blame the owner and fix this things out, by putting restriction to the owner of this kind of dangerous dog to walk them or release them in the public place which give possibility for these dogs to endanger other peoples. And the ownership must be just strict for private appreciation (keep away from public place, and they must have certain standard on how they must be cage and other) or for guarding the property, or hunting for example and all of that follow with certain list of things that they need to obey.

I see many case like this, and I getting sick of peoples carrying and walking around dangerous dog around the street just for show off and they really don't have capability to handle them, mostly youth, they walk this dog like carrying some ipad or something to show off to other peoples at the park, sometime they let the dog loose to play around ignoring any possibility that this dog can go and attack other human that walking around in the park. Instead of just killing the dogs I think peoples should move further to make a new regulation for owning this kinds of dangerous dogs. Just today I saw a doberman like dog roaming around the street playing with other dogs as a pact and it have a collar, I mean where is the owner? that is so crazy.

I don't know if the dog must be killed or not, if it is a killer/fighter/dangerous dog like pitbull and others, it is their instinct, they doesn't know if what they did is a mistake, so it is likely must goes to the owner, but also if the owner not violate any regulation, so the owner also cannot be blame. In the end, there must be strict guide and responsibility to own dogs.

However let's say what if my son the one who suffer that? I think I will want that dog to be killed both because of anger also because of I don't want another child beside my son to suffer the same. Just trying to be objective and delivering other options and argument.

 

[Kyriakos]

Yeah well:

Schill said the person watching Kevin while his mother was at work should be held responsible.
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"But for adults involved, this never would have happened," Schill said. "They're trying to put all the blame on Mickey."

Villa, whose boyfriend's mother was baby-sitting Kevin the day of the attack, said her friend is not to blame.

"She took amazing care of that little boy," said Villa, who claims in the petition that Mickey killed her dog last year.

According to Villa, Kevin picked up a bone lying on the ground near the dog, which was kept on a chain. That's when Mickey suddenly attacked Kevin, Villa said.

So that dog seems to have killed before anyway, it just simply killed another dog that time. Please keep it alive so it can become a good pet and redeem itself.

Or as another mastermind there put it:

He said it's likely that lovers of pit bulls, specifically, are driving Mickey's Facebook following. Pit bulls have been saddled with a bad rap — fair or not — of being one of the most dangerous dogs. A lot of that reputation is thanks to other mauling cases, Herzog said.

"I don't think this reflects that people like dogs more than they like kids. It's a reflection that ... this is yet another instance of their breed getting blame for something it didn't do," Herzog said. "'Blame the deed, not the breed""

 

[CreamofJustice]

Yeah, and just to add to what I said before, the dog that bit my mum was a Pit Bull.
Take that however you wish...

 

[H4run]

there should be regulation for owning this kind of dog, that dog is not a game nor some "cool" commodity, they able to harm and kill other, so it need someone with special knowledge and skill to be able to handle them properly.

 

[Yeekim]

You cannot blame the owner also, the owner doesn't have a full control over the dog behaviour, in order for you to be able blamed the owner you must go down to the legal ownership of the dog itself. For example let's said, if owning a dangerous dogs like pitbull or doberman is illegal, or walk them around the street is illegal then you can blame the owner for doing so.

But if owning the "dangerous" dogs is legal also to walk them around, then if the dogs run out of control and attack other peoples out of the owner control and ability it is not the fault of the owner but the fault of the dog.

I disagree. It is the responsibility of the owner to properly train his/her dog, so that it does not randomly attack other dogs or people. It is also the responsibility of the owner to keep the dog properly muzzled.
Regardless of whether there is a legal requirement or not.

 

[Rashiminos]

I'm just waiting for the part where we cast stones.

 

[Kyriakos]

I'm just waiting for the part where we cast stones.

But most people here probably never bit another human in the eye

 

[bhsup]

I would just like to ask who thought it was a good idea to have the boy take a bone away from a dog?

 

[Kyriakos]

Maybe the bone story is a cover-up and in reality the dog asked for id.